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feeling defeated already, how do i snap out of it?

appointment with my RE today. i am already on estrace for FET #2 on Feb. 1st.

i got pg w/ IVF #1 but miscarried, FET #1 was an epic fail.

i just lost it in the REs office today. i just feel like we're doing the same thing as last FET and are doomed to fail.

his response was that he has a hundred babies that came from FET.

what does the events of someone else's uterus have to do with mine?

i raised the issue that my lining has never gotten above a 6.5

he says since i got pg then, 5.9 must be a functional lining for me.

i left feeling even more defeated than when i went in 

i don't know how to snap out of it 

TTC #1 since 12/2010 DH: MFI, cancer survivor Me: Resected septate uterus, lap treated mild endo, tubes open, ovulate on own, autoimmune disease 3 Failed IUI's (2/2012, 4/2012, 6/2012) 
IVF #1 August 2012. BFP! Beta #1 56.7 Beta #2 150 One baby, one heartbeat on 9/20/12! no h/b @7w6d. dandc @8w0d
FET #1 December 2012, BFN
FET #2 February 2013, no embies survived thaw
IVF #2, BFP #2, Loss #2 March 2013, Scar tissue discovered, RPL testing,
IVF #3, BFP #3, Loss #3 (twins) September 2013
Hostile ute, moving onto Gestational Carrier!

GC/FET #1 of 1 5AA blast and 1 compacted blast, February 2014, BFP #4 on 3/1/2014!
6w u/s 1 bean with h/b of 145 bpm, 8w u/s 187 bpm
EDD 11/7/14. Please, please, please stick little one!

Praying unceasingly for a miracle. ALL welcome!

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Re: feeling defeated already, how do i snap out of it?

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    Me: 37, DH: 35 :: TCC since 2/11 SA: Perfect! CD3  HSG = Blocked Right Tube
    April- Femara 2.5mg + Trigger + IUI = BFN   May- Femara 5mg = CX - No Response on Left = BFN
    June- Femara 7.5mg + Trigger + IUI = BFN  August- Lap & Hysteroscopy = Blocked & Partially Blocked Tubes
    September- Femara 5mg = CX - No Response on Left = BFN  October- 100mg Clomid + Trigger + TI = BFN
    IVF # 1: Stims 11/30 ER 12/12/12! (10R, 10M, 8F, 2T, 6 F) :: Beta #1- 176  c/p @ 4w4d
    FET #1 February 26th :: Lost 4 to Thaw, Transferred 2 = BFFN
    IVF # 2 Stims 5/10 ER 5/21 (15R, 13M, 13F, 2T, 7F- 6d3 & 1d5) :: Beta # 1- 15 c/p @ 4w
    FET #2 Cancelled, Right Tube Developed a Hydro  8/28 Hydro & Scar Tissue Removed  Cleared for FET
    FET #2.2 Scheduled for September 20th
    2 Thawed, 2 Transferred! Beta #1- 96, Beta #2 906! :: EDD June 10th
    2015- 2 failed FET. We are done
    SURPRISE! BFP 8/8/16   EDD 4/1/17

     
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  • I cant help you on the defeated part. We are a party of 2 with lots of chocolate and beer. This crap sucks so bad and I feel ya. So why isnt he doing anything to try to build a better lining? Do you do the estrace vaginal also? Patches? How many times a day do you take oral estrace? Im being nosy Im sorry. I always fight to get a decent lining which is partly why Im going the viagra route. To promote blood flow and build a better lining and not bleed it out. Good luck lady.
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    I cant help you on the defeated part. We are a party of 2 with lots of chocolate and beer. This crap sucks so bad and I feel ya. So why isnt he doing anything to try to build a better lining? Do you do the estrace vaginal also? Patches? How many times a day do you take oral estrace? Im being nosy Im sorry. I always fight to get a decent lining which is partly why Im going the viagra route. To promote blood flow and build a better lining and not bleed it out. Good luck lady.

    i only take the estrogen orally (2x a day now, up to 3x a day before transfer). no patch or suppository for me. my estrogen level was through the roof at ivf (>1500) but still lining less than 7. he finally put me on viagra (vaginally) today after i lost it in his office. so as of tomorrow, i will be joining the blue undie club with you.

     

    TTC #1 since 12/2010 DH: MFI, cancer survivor Me: Resected septate uterus, lap treated mild endo, tubes open, ovulate on own, autoimmune disease 3 Failed IUI's (2/2012, 4/2012, 6/2012) 
    IVF #1 August 2012. BFP! Beta #1 56.7 Beta #2 150 One baby, one heartbeat on 9/20/12! no h/b @7w6d. dandc @8w0d
    FET #1 December 2012, BFN
    FET #2 February 2013, no embies survived thaw
    IVF #2, BFP #2, Loss #2 March 2013, Scar tissue discovered, RPL testing,
    IVF #3, BFP #3, Loss #3 (twins) September 2013
    Hostile ute, moving onto Gestational Carrier!

    GC/FET #1 of 1 5AA blast and 1 compacted blast, February 2014, BFP #4 on 3/1/2014!
    6w u/s 1 bean with h/b of 145 bpm, 8w u/s 187 bpm
    EDD 11/7/14. Please, please, please stick little one!

    Praying unceasingly for a miracle. ALL welcome!

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  • You listen to ME, Missy!!!  You GOT pregnant!!!!!  I know it was heartbreaking to have a mis, I've had them.  I know you feel like it is NEVER going to happen to you.  But this was actually somewhat SUCCESSFUL.  It indicates that it's the right procedure for you!  

    My RE said to me at my last appointment (and I almost killed her, but she was right) "this is going to happen - just not on your timeline."  

    Take it EASY.  TRUST your doctor and if you DON'T find another!  

    Everything is ok in the end, and if it's not okay, it's not the end. 

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    Meds:2000MG Metformin, 100MG Clomid, HSG/Trigger, Provera 400mg 2DPIUI
    Stats: SA 20mil & 63% mot/follicles (as per 1/30 u/s): 22, 13, 14
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  • Heck yeah!! Im not the only one walking around with a smurf in their panties. I have read good things about it and a colleague of my RE uses it all the time and has good results with it. He even doesnt have them start it till a week before transfer, so we will be getting more of it. I sure hope it works for us. Thats crazy your E2 was that high with not taking that much of it. If loosing it in the office is what it takes to make things happen then hell throw a full on bipolar tantrum and see where that gets you. He may give you a break on your cycle costs lol. Yeah right, wishful thinking. Wel my ET looks like it will be the 4th so i'll only be 3 days behind you. Good luck to us.
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  • I'm rooting for you lincoln!  My FET is scheduled for 2/4 as well.   I have lining issues too.  Hope this cycle is your take home baby!

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    April 2012: MRI- questionable cyst 8mg by 12mm in pituitary ; referred to RE by Ob-gyn after amenorrhea x 4+ months, provera ineffective, low estrogen level
    cycle 1: May 2012, clomid 50mg; cycle cancelled, thin lining, no response
    cycle 2: June 2012, femara 5mg; cycle cancelled, no response
    cycle 3: July 2012, femara 7.5mg; cycle cancelled (largest folli on Cd12 & cd 16: 11, lining 4)
    Repeat MRI July 25,2012- Cyst unchanged, likely old infarction.
    Aug. 8: met with RE, move to injectables if HSG and SA normal
    Aug. 23: HSG all clear; DH- perfect
    Switched to a new RE in early Sept. IVF here we come
    Genetic testing reveals: Fragile X- Intermediate risk/grey zone.
    IVF#1: ER 11/30: 14 retrieved, 10 mature, 7 fertilized. E2 prior to trigger 5200. Decision made to freeze 6 embryos and transfer later due to OHSS.
    IVF#1.2/FET #1: estrogen injects start 1/18, FET delayed to try to thicken lining. lining 5.4mm. FET- 2/18- transferred one 3AA expanded blast. BFP 5dp5dt. Beta #1- 2/27 9dp5dt- 102.27 beta #2 3/1: 147 :(, beta #3 3/4: 268 told to stop meds and let nature take its course. requested 4th beta (3/6); Beta hell for 2 months.

    FET # 2: endometrial scratch 5/6, added estrace vaginally and ASA to delestrogen and PIO. June 10- transferred one 4AA hatched embryo, BFP 4dp6dt, Beta 1 (9dp6dt) 187, Beta 2 (11dp6dt): 412; Beta 3 (15dp6dt ): 4452. U/S #1- one beautiful embryo with a heartbeat of 133 at 7 weeks.  8 weeks: heartbeat 156. EDD 2/26/2014: born 2-3-14 induced due to Pre-E and HELLP at 36w5d.

    12/1: met with RE to discuss trying for #2


  • Hugs, I really hope that you are get surprised as things move forward and instead of negative news, you get positive news that you can hang onto. Something.... *HUG*

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    DH: Severe MFI

    12/2/11 - IUI #1- BFN 
    8/1/12 - IVF #1 - Zero response from max stims (600iu intramuscularly)

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    12/6/12 - Adopted five embryos that had been frozen for over ten years!
    2/11/13 - DEmbryo FET #1 Thawed four, sadly two didn't survive. Transferred two beautiful blasts. 
    2/16/13 - First BFP of my life @ 6dp5dt! EDD 10/30/13
    3/27/13 - After beta and u/s hell, no heartbeat ever detected. D&C at 9w1d.

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    9/12/13 - DEmbryo FET #2. Thawed and transferred two beautiful blasts
    9/17/13 - BFP @ 5dp6dt! EDD 05/31/14
    9/29/13 - m/c @ 5w1d. :(

    11/19/13 - DEmbryo FET #3. Thawed and transferred one blast from each batch. Wow!
    11/23/13 - BFP @ 4dp6dt! EDD 8/7/13
    Beta #1 @ 13dp6dt - 522  Beta #2 @ 16dp6dt - 1373 
    6w5d ultrasound showed one perfect baby with a beautiful heartbeat of 134bpm!

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  • ((Lincoln))  I'm sorry that you're discouraged. You got pregnant and you will again.  I'm rooting for you!  Also, smurfs always make me feel better and you will have smurfs in your undies!  Wink

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  • I am sorry.  I don't really know how to snap you out of it, but I'm sorry you are feeling defeated.  I also feel kind of defeated and we haven't even started our FET cycle yet. Stick out tongue  I think it's normal to feel that way after having multiple IVF/FET cycles and still no baby.  But hopefully your RE knows what he's doing and will help you finally have success.  I'm rooting for you!
    Married my wife 8/2007 ~ TTC #1 since 7/2011
    9 IUIs = 9 BFNs
    IVF October 2012: 22 eggs retrieved, 17 fertilized, 5 frozen
    ET #1: 1 blast = BFP; Blighted ovum discovered at 7w5d; D&E
    FET #1: 1 blast = BFP; Missed m/c discovered at 9w5d; D&E
    Karyotyping: normal ~ RPL Testing: normal ~ Hysteroscopy: normal
    FET #2: 1 blast transferred 10/25; BFP 10/31!
    EDD 7/13/14 ~ Induced at 37w4d due to pre-eclampsia ~ Born on 6/28/14
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  • I just wanted to offer hugs, and hope, <3
    Married BF 6/29/2002/
    TTC Since Aug 2011/
    ME:34 all clear/DH:41 DX Severe MFI/
    IVF w/ICSI OCT 2012 Stims started 10/8/ER 10/19/12/ET 10/24/Beta#1 11/2=BFN (beta was 1.2)

    IVF 2.0-Baseline 11/7/12 beta 0/All Clear
    Stim start 11/7/12//ER 11/19 11M//10F
    ET 2 embies 11/24//Beta#1 28 Beta #2 23 Beta#3 29
    stop meds Beta#4 37/C/P 5W5D EDD:8/12/13/IVF#3 in Jan

    Ivf 3-frozen 3 poor 3day/fet=bfn

    Ivf#4 New dr. New protocol=beta1 197 beta#2 677 beta#3 1557
     u/s 8/13 =TWINS 2 strong hb
    Due Date 4/4/14

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  • I just want to offer you (((hugs))). I feel defeated too and we've barley begun. I'm not sure how you get out of it, it's hard to; but I just keep telling myself I have to keep moving forward, there is no other option. Hang in there. 
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