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if you have older children...a question for you re: phones

The posts about feeling old, got me thinking about something.  DD has asked for a phone, and we immediately said no.  She's in 2nd grade, and really there is no need for her to have one.  She then asked if she could have one when she's in 6th grade and I told her we'd have that discussion when she's in 6th grade.  Growing up too fast, she is. Crying

While my immediate reaction was that's too young, I got to thinking. When I was a kid, there were pay phones everywhere.  Now-I can't tell you the last time I saw one.  I didn't have my first cell phone until I was 30 (maybe even older) but the times...they are a-changing!  I started paying attention and it seems like there are more young children (well, middle school probably) with phones.  The neighbor girl (6th or 7th grade) even told me she had a phone just like mine! Surprise

So, my question is - if you have an older child, do they have a cell phone, or if not, what do you think is the right age for that?

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Re: if you have older children...a question for you re: phones

  • My kids are little but I wonder about this. Back in the 90's my BFF'S little sis wanted a pager for Christmas and I was aghast. I was like, 'she's 12, not a doctor.' She got one then moved onto a cell phone a few years later.

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  • DD1 is 18 now, but she got her first cell phone when she was 9.  My reasoning for this was that I was a single mom and she started staying home by herself after school.  One day she forgot her key and had to borrow the bus driver's phone to call me and have me come home.  It was a bitterly cold day so I rushed home to make sure she wasn't outside in the cold.  She got a phone that very next day.  However, if I didn't have that situation, I don't think she would have had one until she was in middle school at the earliest.
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  • Second grade is way too early to be a responsible phone user.  It's not a toy.

    I figure it's appropriate when your child starts to leave the house without you for longer than a few minutes and is not closely supervised by an adult.  Maybe middle school age.

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  • imageBrideBuddies:

    Second grade is way too early to be a responsible phone user.  It's not a toy.

    I figure it's appropriate when your child starts to leave the house without you for longer than a few minutes and is not closely supervised by an adult.  Maybe middle school age.

    I do not have older kids but thought I would add my 2 cents anyway. My nephew had a cell phone this year at age 12 and he lost it in a relatively short time. My 10 yo niece does not have one yet but she can't keep track of anything. I realize that some children are more responsible than others. If I were in your shoes I would hold out until middle school when the child is away from the house and without as much supervision like Bride Buddies stated.

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  • Our rule is middle school age, because they stay after school for activities and go out with friends.  This way they can contact me when they are done or something was cancelled.

    We first did this when the oldest had to walk 4 blocks home from the bus stop and we had several pedophiles in the neighborhood.  I worked so I couldn't pick her up so this was our way to feel safer. 

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  • Thanks for the feedback, everyone!  When she asked about 6th grade, and I said we'd talk then, I was really thinking inside, 'No, that's still too young!'.  But...when I started thinking about it - my two kids will be in different schools on different schedules (what if I mess up picking up one of them, or am running late getting my younger one and she gets home w/out me there, etc), and if she starts after school activities w/out me present, I may have to rethink my answer.  It was sooooooooooooooo different when I was her age, but that was many, many moons ago.

    Sigh....can't she just stay 7 forever?? 

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  • imageBrideBuddies:

    Second grade is way too early to be a responsible phone user.  It's not a toy.

     

    That's exactly how I feel and why I told her no!  I had a good chuckle that she even thought it was possible and worth asking. Smile

     

     

     

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  • DS doesn't have a phone. When he can pay for it himself, he can have at it. I'm not paying money for an expensive toy that plays games, goes on Facebook, and does a million other things aside from making phone calls and texting. Not necessary. We have a cheapy pay as you go that they all share if they are going to be somewhere where it will be hard to grab a courtesy phone or pay phone, or if our house phone goes down (occasionally the power has gone out in a storm). It's $10 a month. It doesn't go to school, ever. Same rule will apply to all the kids. Oh, and if they lose it, they better have money in savings to replace it, because I won't.

    I had a cell phone at 16, and I paid the bill. Can't hurt to learn some responsibility.

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  • I know its funny, but I got my son his first cell phone when he was 8.  It was a trak fone, so I could monitor how many minutes were on it, and if it got lost or stolen no one could run up my plan etc... 

    I wanted him to have it mainly for emergencies and for sleep overs with his friends (who knows what kind of monsters other childrens parent could turn out to be-lol )  

    WE had a lot of rule about having it, but he did good with it.  Then my Dh and I went through a divorce and I was very glad he had a cell, it really helps with communication.  good luck in your decision.

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  • We are raising our nieces who are 13 and 18. They were almost 10 and 15 when we got them. Oldest had a cell phone already and it was needed with the situation at home. Once she came to live with us however we put some major restrictions on it (you can set times through Verizon). During off times she could contact us only. It was off during school. After school it was on for a total of 1 hour and off again from 9pm-730a. As the years have gone on (she is now a senior) and she has earned our trust and is doing well in school we have increased her time. Now that she is 18 she has no restrictions as long as she does well in school and is ready to go in the morning. 

    Little one is 13 and has been dying to have a phone. There has been no need for it. She is always with someone who has a phone and when at school she can use there phone.  On top of that she needed to show us responsibility which has improved over the last few months (she called her boyfriend from a hotel room last spring and racked up $45 not realizing it would cost money. This is after we told her that if she wanted to call her little BF that she could use our phone )

    She will likely get a phone for her 14 th birthday but again with major restriction and text/call only.  When they can pay for their own phone/plan they can do whatever but no smartphones while we are paying for it.  Oldest is realizing how expensive it is now that she is looking to get her own smart phone. 

    I think it depends a lot on the maturity /responsibility and situation. If parents are divorced and there are issues it might be a good idea. My friend's kids had a phone at 8 or 9 but they could only call a few select numbers and no texting. 

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  • My kids are only 4 1/2 and 6 1/2 but I have older nieces/nephews.  My 2 nieces who are 11 (12 in April and August) both got phones this fall.  My older niece (15 now) got hers when she was 13.  I have no idea when I will let them get phones - am not there yet but I agree that now that pay phones are not anywhere,. the only way a child can make a call if they don't have their own is to borrow one.  I know my nephews both got theirs at around 12-13 when they started going to Bar/Bat Mitzvah parties so they had a way to call home.
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  • imageBrideBuddies:

    Second grade is way too early to be a responsible phone user.  It's not a toy.

    I figure it's appropriate when your child starts to leave the house without you for longer than a few minutes and is not closely supervised by an adult.  Maybe middle school age.

    Agree.  I have a 12, 10, and 2 year old.  I gave a cell phone to my oldest as she started middle school.  It has been great for her to have the phone to coordinate afterschool activities.  Middle school in our town starts in 6th grade.  I am glad she has it --- and so is she Smile

  • In today's age....I want my kid to be able to get a HOLD of ME incase of an emergency!!  She got her cell phone in 3rd grade. It was gifted to her (w/o our concent) however it is a blessing. I have FULL access to her phone emails etc. Phone is turned in to me at bedtime and returned in the AM.

    For us, its a safety thing and support. Im just a text away or call away from being there for her. Especially now that she is in 6th grade. I am super proud to be available. I get a text every single morning from her before she shuts it off when class starts and at the end of the day when she is in aftercare.

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  • My DS got his phone at about age 10, he is 15 now, so will my DD. There are so many benefits to them having cellphones as long as you monitor and restrict. I would not turn their phones off during school either. Just make them put them on silent, reason being, their are crazies in this world and you never know what could/would happen. My son text me during school one day that there was a student threatening to shoot up the school. Well I was able to get there and get my son ASAP because he was able to contact me. I would never let my child leave the house without me and not have a cellphone. How else would they be able to reach me if they need me? Or how will I reach them when I need them?

     

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  • Is your 2nd grader on her own very often?  Ever?  So goes the justification for a cell phone.  DS1 will be in first grade next year and I cannot imagine him asking for a cell phone let alone me getting him one.

    I think a cell phone is ok once your kid is on his or her own for any amount of time.  So, if you let your kid walk to the store on his own, a cell phone is ok.  If you or someone else is always supervising him, then no phone.

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  • Many of my fifth grade students have one, but they also walk back and forth to school in a really bad area, so I think they need it! Don't know about my kid, though!
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    Is your 2nd grader on her own very often?  Ever?  So goes the justification for a cell phone.  DS1 will be in first grade next year and I cannot imagine him asking for a cell phone let alone me getting him one.

    I think a cell phone is ok once your kid is on his or her own for any amount of time.  So, if you let your kid walk to the store on his own, a cell phone is ok.  If you or someone else is always supervising him, then no phone.

    No, I may not have been clear.  I have no intention of getting her one now, in 2nd grade.  That's not even up for discussion.  There is no need.  I was wondering when middle school hits, do people find that's reasonable and the norm nowadays?  My initial reaction was no to that as well, but then the more I thought about it, the more I wondered if I'm just still living in MY era of middle school (when nobody had them).  I will have to wait and see what the situation is when middle school rolls around.  Smile

     

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  • My older kids are adults, and I would have said at that age that it wasn't necessary.  I, too, have noticed that pay phones are not as plentiful as they once were.  I suppose I would take the wait and see approach rather than promising something ... you don't know what circumstances your family/she/etc are going to be in when she's in 6th grade.  In the meantime do your research on what options are available and do what you feel comfortable with when the time comes.
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  • My oldest is 13. She got a phone when she was 11 and started middle school. I got it for her because she would meet her little sister at the elementary school and they would walk home together. I needed a way to get a hold of her in case I got stuck in traffic on my way home from work and would not be there to let them in. It is a basic phone with limited texting. It comes in handy when she is out with friends or when we are out and I forget to charge my phone. 
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