I saw you mention that your doctor said Manada is not a good candidate for IVF. I wonder if the standards are different in Canada? We know someone locally with DOR/POF and IVF was definitely an option for her. She was able to get pregnant with injectables and IUI, so it didn't come to that. I know some women don't respond well to injectables and therefore aren't good candidates for IVF, but I haven't heard of anyone making that call before trying medicated cycles.
I know treatment decisions are very personal. I just wanted to let you know that a) women with POF can get pregnant and b) you may have more options if it comes to that.
I'm sorry you are dealing with this before you really even got started. Wishing you guys luck with IUI.
Re: healz413 and Manada
Thanks, hlke. I appreciate the information and the thoughtfulness and good wishes.
I don't remember the doctor saying that Manada (still feels weird to call her by her screen name) was not a good candidate for IVF, but I may have missed that in our last meeting with the doc. I believe that most of the info Manada has gathered about DOR/POF is from the internet and discussion boards and I believe it is through her research that she discovered she was unlikely to be a good candidate for IVF (with her own eggs). I think that the only thing our doctor mentioned about IVF was using my eggs since I seem to be producing plenty; I guess the assumption there is that since we have my eggs available, the chances would be higher with those.
I am sure that Manada will weigh-in as well and share her info and thoughts with us.
We start cycle monitoring tomorrow, so the well-wishes are appreciated.
We're queer. I'm 33, have severe stage 4 endo, and had both fallopian tubes removed. My love ("Manada" on the boards, 32) was diagnosed with diminished ovarian reserve. We did Partner IVF (my eggs, her uterus). We lost our twins Tavin and Casey at 21 weeks gestation.
Our IUIs
with @Manada: IUI# 1-7 (December 2012- September 2013) all BFN. Tried natural, femara, clomid, puregon/follistim, clomid and menopur combo, both the ovidrel and HCG triggers.
Our IVFs:
IVF #1 my eggs November/December 2013: Cancelled IVF due to poor response
IVF #2 my eggs/Manada's uterus January/February 2014
BCPs and lupron overlap Stimmed: 1/22-2/2: Bravelle and Menopur (dosage ranged from B300 and M150 to B375 and M150 to B300 and M225)
2/4 retrieved 10 eggs. Endo was much worse than expected. Only 3 eggs fertilized; February 7 transferred two day 3 embryos, froze one. All great condition.
BFP eve of 6dp3dt; Beta 1 (11dp3dt): 110; Beta 2 (13dp3dt): 175; Beta 3 (15dp3dt): 348; Beta 4 (19dp3dt): 2222; Beta 5 (21dp3dt): 4255
1st ultrasound (3/6 6w 1d): TWINS!!!! Twin A measuring 6w1d with a heartbeat of 118bpm. Twin B measuring 6w0d with a heartbeat of 113bpm.
***July 18, 2014 we lost our beautiful babies at 21 weeks gestation. They were born too early. Tavin Sara T. and Casey Elizabeth T. are beautiful and precious and we will love them and miss them forever.***
FET #1 December 2014
Thanks hlke
Honestly, I don't know about all your clinics, but our fertility clinic's office is very much a game of "Wait 2 hours, and then get bombarded with so much information your brain explodes within 10 minutes, and go home and process" sort of experience for us.
I don't remember exactly what our Dr told us about my eggs, but I do remember she was recommending specifically iui natural, iui with stims, and then ivf using my partner's eggs (is there a way we can hyperlink - like on facebook?) ---- if I really wanted to carry a baby. At no point did she talk about using IVF with my eggs, and mentioned that it was very much a "get going NOW because in 6 months the eggs may not be there" situation for us....
I interpreted that as a pretty dismal outlook for my IVF chances, but looking back today - that may have just as much to do with the fact that my partner has TONS of good, healthy-looking follicles, and so for us our chances of success are better if we just use hers, either with her pregnant via IUI or me via IVF.
My period was late this month (finally started today!), and I had a good cry last night about this stress, and all the rest + a little bit of isolation at feeling like the only queer people we know who're negotiating infertility questions ----- So I really appreciate your shout out!
We will have to talk more to our Dr about our options for sure in our future. I'm hoping our communication experience there improves as we move into cycle monitoring and get to know the nurses better, who can help us filter questions through and to the doctor. I'm still figuring out what POF means for my body, beyond having a lack of eggs and a bit of a wacked out hormone cycle.... The internet and these boards have been hugely educational!
Thank you. I really appreciate your support. Every ounce helps these days
queer couple - 32 (me) & 33 (my love) years old - donor sperm,
Our IF/TTC journey since Nov 2012.
Me: dx of DOR in Nov. 2012. Low AMH, AFC - 6, Normal FSH, SS-A (RO) Antibodies (Autoimmune issues), tubes clear, Sono (November 2013) NORMAL! <p>
7 IUI's - December 2012-September 2013. Medicated, Injected, Triggered.... all BFN.
My Love: (the amazing @Healz413)
Normal AMH & FSH, AFC ~27, blocked tube dx'd via HSG in 2012. Hydrosalpinx & ovarian cyst dx'd in May 2013.
dx of Stage IV Endo & bilateral salpinectomy in June 2013.
Partner IVF#1a- December 2013 - H's eggs, my Ute - CANCELLED due to low response
Partner IVF #1b - February 2014 - H's eggs, my Ute - ER February 4 (10 retrieved, 3 fertilized), Transfer Feb 7 of one Grade 1 and one Grade 2 day 3 embryos. 1 - Day 3, Grade 1 frosty saved. BFP - 6dp3dt via FRER, Beta #1 - 110, Beta #2 175, Beta #3 - 348, Beta #4 - 2222!, Beta #5 - 4255. Ultrasound (6w1d) - 2 heartbearts!
We lost our beautiful Twin baby girls on June 18, 2014. Tavin Sara and Casey Elizabeth were born at 21 weeks gestation and were absolutely beautiful, precious, amazing babies. We miss our daughters every day and love them with all our hearts.
Our first consult was also pretty overwhelming! They definitely dump a TON of info on you.
Honestly I think a lot depends on what happens as you start with IUI, and it's pretty hard to know at the outset. And obviously, a lot depends on how your feelings about all this develop as you go through the process. When we started, I was really attached to the idea of carrying and we thought I would carry first, while DW had no desire to carry. Now she's TTC and I'm not sure if I'll end up carrying, and we're both happy with that arrangement. We also thought we only wanted low intervention TTC attempts, and now we're with an RE and are fully prepared to do IVF if it comes to that. As long as the lines of communication stay open and you both feel good about the plan, there are lots of options to build a family and only you can figure out which is best for you. I'm glad you've found this board - the ladies here are wonderful for support.
AMH 0.5, AFC 5-8, FSH 7ish
IVF #1 - antagonist. Empty follicle syndrome. 1 retrieved, 0 fertilized.
IVF #2 - antagonist. Ovulated early. 3 retrieved, 2 fertilized, 0 blasts