Have we discussed this? (Sad, might be disturbing)

IrishCoffee7

Gist: An Indian woman living in Ireland died after being denied an abortion. She was 17 weeks and already clearly miscarrying but because there was a fetal heartbeat doctors would not perform an abortion.

 https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/wp/2012/11/16/irish-abortion-debate-after-womans-death-resonates-in-u-s/

The story I heard on NPR had a quote from her husband saying that he was told "this is a Catholic country. This is the law." (paraphrased). On a positive it looks like the Irish government is now working to clarify abortion laws. Apparently she would technically have had the right to an abortion in this situation but Irish law has no definition or clarification for how doctors can make the call on when it is legal to perform an abortion.

https://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/16/us-ireland-abortion-idUSBRE8AD1QD20121116

So sad.

grr_aargh

I can't discuss this without getting stabby. 

 

This is for everyone who says "Choose life."  The more you limit the private medical decisions of a woman and her doctor, the more women who will die.  Period.  Don't say you choose life when that happens.  

grr_aargh

emkatrine:

I saw this on the news!

They played a recording of her husband as he was basically watching her die. It was heartbreaking. 

So, why didn't they go someplace else?  Fly here or a neighboring country where it might be legal? I don't know enough about other country's laws to know if they could have helped her, but I wouldn't have stopped at no. If this doctor refuses, I will find someone who will.

Her condition deteriorated quickly enough that going somewhere else is not an option. 

 And to iterate my earlier point: I want everyone who wants to make abortion illegal to realize that this is the consequence of inserting your religious beliefs on a family and their physician.  This is the blood that will be on your hands if you overturn Roe.  

tarebear9891

This is so so sickening.

Good job preserving "life" to the doctors.

penguingrrl

I had read about that earlier this week. It's absolutely horrific. Her poor husband and family. This is why Roe needs to remain in tact. That wasn't a pro-life policy, it was an anti-woman policy.

monkiem

How many women will have to die before they stop letting religious beliefs have a role in politics and laws????  I'm sitting here trying not to cry.

monkiem

gsteph88:

emkatrine:

I saw this on the news!

They played a recording of her husband as he was basically watching her die. It was heartbreaking. 

So, why didn't they go someplace else?  Fly here or a neighboring country where it might be legal? I don't know enough about other country's laws to know if they could have helped her, but I wouldn't have stopped at no. If this doctor refuses, I will find someone who will.

Immigration laws in the US are insane. She would have died just waiting for the initial letter to be processed. 

She would have died while waiting for a tourist visa. The US doesn't have a reciprocal agreement with India that would waive visa requirements to my knowledge.  

monkiem

gwinnygirl:

Also, I want to add how f'ucking ridiculous it is that this woman was subjected to the will of the Catholic church when she was not CATHOLIC.  They imposed their religious beliefs on her & ultimately that killed her.

OMG, I didn't think of that part.  This makes it even worse.

monkiem

gwinnygirl:

monkiem:

gsteph88:

emkatrine:

I saw this on the news!

They played a recording of her husband as he was basically watching her die. It was heartbreaking. 

So, why didn't they go someplace else?  Fly here or a neighboring country where it might be legal? I don't know enough about other country's laws to know if they could have helped her, but I wouldn't have stopped at no. If this doctor refuses, I will find someone who will.

Immigration laws in the US are insane. She would have died just waiting for the initial letter to be processed. 

She would have died while waiting for a tourist visa. The US doesn't have a reciprocal agreement with India that would waive visa requirements to my knowledge.  

When she was admitted to the hospital she was already in tremendous pain & leaking amniotic fluid, she was at risk for infection. There is absolutely no way she could have just hopped on a flight to go somewhere else, even to the UK which is the closest alternative to women in Ireland who are needing to terminate.

Yup.  It's not as though they told her that she would be m/c within 'x' amount of time.  She m/c within days of presenting to the hospital.

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Ugh, this makes me ill.

+1 everything Grr said.

RondackHiker

ashleysyn2:

That is so, so sad.

I know. I feel like I have so little to add. This should not have happened. This is not okay. She could have lived. Now she AND the baby are both dead. How is that pro life?

Daniellekrista

That makes at least 2 well publicized cases this year where a women died because of pro life laws. How many went un publicized?

missyishere

Daniellekrista:

That makes at least 2 well publicized cases this year where a women died because of pro life laws. How many went un publicized?

This is my thought exactly (and all the above).  I don't read much into the religious aspect of Ireland, but I know here in the states our religious freedom is over-protected.  I don't want to be stabby either, but it's instances like this that make my blood boil a bit.  I don't understand how anyone can believe it was God's Will for her and her child to die, and how she could have been saved if religion didn't play a part, and that she suffered dying with her child.  She could have lived and could have had another healthy child someday.