First year shots

ellewoodsSC

L is recovering from a viral infection as we head off to her first year check-up, so I don't expect her to get shots at the visit, but looking at the vaccination schedule it's getting ridiculous.  MMR, HepA, polio, Varicella, HIB, Pneumococcus, flu, ....  If you already had your 1 year checkup, did your little ones get all those at once?    

sharksfan

Yep...7 shots total...plus the flu booster a month later.  I had the choice between this and 2 a month for 4 months.  I am a "pull the bandaid off quickly" kinda girl, so I opted to get them all over with.  But, R never had an adverse reaction to any of his other vaccines prior to that.  If he had, I probably would have spaced them out.

stardust317

DD only got 3: MMR, Varicella, and Hep A.

michpedelle85

My doctor did not feel comfortable doing MMR and Varicella shot at the same time as they are both LIVE viruses and she likes to separste live viruses by one month. Since the flu shot is also associated with having reactions with people who have allergy to eggs, we decided to do just the flu shot at his 12 month because I didnt know if he was allergic to eggs yet. DS has no other allergies, but we like to play it safe. We dont do more than 2 shots at one time sue to the fact that their bodies are so little and their immune systems shouldnt have to fight so much at one time. In the beginning, we would go every month and get one or 2 vaccines. He is all up to date, we just spread them out. I just dont feel its right to get 5+ needle sticks in one appointment. Thats just crazy. Next month, we will go back and get dose 2 of the flu. At his 15 month appointment, we will do Varicella and we wont do MMR until he is 2 (I have read some things I dont like about MMR and from all my research, I decided to delay this one a bit). My DS wont get Hep A until age 2 and 3.  We follow Dr Sears Alternate Vaccine Schedule. It doesnt really delay vaccines, just more spreads them out. It has worked great so far! On the website AskDrSears.com, Dr. Sears offers his alternative vaccine schedule. "My main worry about [the CDC's] schedule is that there really hasn't been enough research on the various chemicals and ingredients in many vaccines to prove that they are 100 percent safe," he says. "It has also been my experience that giving five or six vaccines at a time can increase the likelihood of a severe reaction."

He says his alternative schedule won't overwhelm young immune systems, but it still provides complete vaccine protection.

2 months
Rotavirus
DTaP

3 months
PCV
Hib

4 months
Rotavirus (second dose)
DTaP (second dose)

5 months
PCV (second dose)
Hib (second dose)

6 months
Rotavirus (third dose)
DTaP (third dose)

7 months
PCV (third dose)
Hib (third dose)

9 months
Polio
Influenza (and given every year until at least 19 years old)

12 months
Polio (second dose)
Mumps (separated from MMR)

15 months
PCV (fourth dose)
Hib (fourth dose)

18 months
DTaP (fourth dose)
Varicella

2 years
Rubella (separated from MMR)
Polio (third dose)

2 1/2 years
Hep B
Hep A

3 1/2 years
Hep B (second dose)
Measles (separated from MMR)

4 years
DTaP (fifth dose)
Polio (fourth dose)

5 years
MMR (second dose of each vaccine)

6 years
Varicella (second dose)

12 years
HPV

12 years, 2 months
HPV (second dose)

13 years
HPV (third dose)
MCV4

Read more: https://www.oprah.com/health/Dr-Sears-Alternative-and-CDCs-Childhood-Vaccine-Schedules/5#ixzz29zffJF6X

blu-eyedwife

Elle - LBB got 4 shots at his 1 year, MMR, Chickenpox, Hep A, and the first of his flu shots.  They happen so fast and he was pissed when they happened, but by the time we left the office he was all smiles again.

 

I'm not going to quote everything, since that would be excessive, but michpedelle, I'd do a lot more research on vaccinations if I were you, especially before posting what could only be interpreted as a recommendation to others to follow blindly.

* First, it is arguably more cruel to subject a child to needles/pain/trauma every couple of weeks, rather than getting at once, where they're upset after the first prick, so much so that they probably aren't even aware of the remaining.  I know my son hasn't reacted any differently when getting 1, 2, 3, or even 4 shots.

*Second, if your doctor is recommending getting 2 flu shots at once, I would definitely seek a new pediatrician.  The reason for giving 2 flu shots is because the first one is generally ineffective, but the second isn't effective unless it is spaced out from the first.  All research points out to spacing them by a month.  Giving 2 shots of the same vaccine at once is no different than giving just the one, ineffective shot.  So basically your doctor is subjecting your child to ineffective medicine.  

* I'm curious about your research regarding MMR, since all the negative media surrounding it are about autism, and that's been disproven (or at least the studies connecting it have been admitted to be fraudulently falsified.)  Given that we've had deaths in my county due to measles for unvaccinated babies, I can't imagine not giving this one to my child. 

 * Quoting Dr. Sears, especially on this board, is ridiculous.  There has been research by the CDC as to timing and effectiveness of these drugs.  Dr. Sears relies on Herd Immunity for his alternate vaccination schedule, and we all know how those of us October 11 moms feel about Herd Immunity.  And again, his philosophy of not giving kids vaccines until they're more likely to contract the disease doesn't work when people aren't vaccinating their children or following the alternative schedule.  Which is why we've been having outbreaks and deaths due to illnesses that had long been eradicated.

 

michpedelle85:

My doctor did not feel comfortable doing MMR and Varicella shot at the same time as they are both LIVE viruses and she likes to separste live viruses by one month. Since the flu shot is also associated with having reactions with people who have allergy to eggs, we decided to do just the flu shot at his 12 month because I didnt know if he was allergic to eggs yet. DS has no other allergies, but we like to play it safe. We dont do more than 2 shots at one time sue to the fact that their bodies are so little and their immune systems shouldnt have to fight so much at one time. In the beginning, we would go every month and get one or 2 vaccines. He is all up to date, we just spread them out. I just dont feel its right to get 5+ needle sticks in one appointment. Thats just crazy. Next month, we will go back and get dose 2 of the flu. At his 15 month appointment, we will do Varicella and we wont do MMR until he is 2 (I have read some things I dont like about MMR and from all my research, I decided to delay this one a bit). My DS wont get Hep A until age 2 and 3.  We follow Dr Sears Alternate Vaccine Schedule. It doesnt really delay vaccines, just more spreads them out. It has worked great so far! On the website AskDrSears.com, Dr. Sears offers his alternative vaccine schedule. "My main worry about [the CDC's] schedule is that there really hasn't been enough research on the various chemicals and ingredients in many vaccines to prove that they are 100 percent safe," he says. "It has also been my experience that giving five or six vaccines at a time can increase the likelihood of a severe reaction."

ReneeRN

I have always only done 2 vaccines at a time. One on each leg. I will do 3 if one is an oral vaccines.

ETA: This was also when she had itty bitty legs.

morsey2011

DD got 6 total, one of which was the flu shot. It sucked, but it needs to be done. And also everything Blu said.

BeesMomma00

ellewoodsSC:

L is recovering from a viral infection as we head off to her first year check-up, so I don't expect her to get shots at the visit, but looking at the vaccination schedule it's getting ridiculous.  MMR, HepA, polio, Varicella, HIB, Pneumococcus, flu, ....  If you already had your 1 year checkup, did your little ones get all those at once?    

I asked my doctor to space them out.  We did MMR and flu and 12 mos. At 13 mos we will go for Varicella, Flu booster and Hep-A.  My doctor gives HIB and Pneumococcus at 15 mos.  Look at the CDC schedule and discuss with your doctor. Some shots, like Hep-A, can be given anywhere between 12 and 23 months...  and Hep-A isn't as big a deal if you don't travel or aren't at high-risk. 

Bottom line is you should be able to feel comfortable dicussing this with your doctor.  You doctor should recommend and you can agree or disagree.  But in the end, you are the parent.

Of course, if your child is in daycare, you have to stay up-to-date with the state rules.

Mrs. Mo

DH took DD for her visit & I'm a bad momma b/c I don't know exactly what she got. I know she got 5, though. The one's I do know is MMR, Hep A, Chicken Pox & Flu. I don't know what the last one was.

She got her shots appx 3 weeks ago and still has a bruise on her leg from one of them (no clue which it was).

michpedelle85

HERE ARE MY ANSWERS TO YOUR RESPONSE:

* First, it is arguably more cruel to subject a child to needles/pain/trauma every couple of weeks, rather than getting at once, where they're upset after the first prick, so much so that they probably aren't even aware of the remaining.  I know my son hasn't reacted any differently when getting 1, 2, 3, or even 4 shots. 

ANSWER - I FIND THAT IT IS WAY MORE CRUEL TO SUBJECT A NEWBORN TO 3-4-5 SHOTS AT ONCE NOT JUST BECAUSE OF THE PAIN BUT BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE BODY WORKS WHEN IT FIGHTS A VACCINE. GETTING 1 OR 2 AT ONE TIME AND GOING EVERY 4 TO 5 WEEKS SEEMS MUCH LESS CRUEL TO ME. THEIR BODIES ARE SO LITTLE AND NEW AND LETTING THEIR BODIES FIGHT JUST ONE OR 2 AT A TIME SEEMS BETTER. 

*Second, if your doctor is recommending getting 2 flu shots at once, I would definitely seek a new pediatrician.  The reason for giving 2 flu shots is because the first one is generally ineffective, but the second isn't effective unless it is spaced out from the first.  All research points out to spacing them by a month.  Giving 2 shots of the same vaccine at once is no different than giving just the one, ineffective shot.  So basically your doctor is subjecting your child to ineffective medicine.  

ANSWER- NOT ONCE DID I SAY MY DOCTOR WAS DOING 2 FLU SHOTS AT 1 TIME. GO BACK AND READ AGAIN. IN FACT, I CLEARLY STATE THAT WE ARE GOING BACK NEXT MONTH FOR DOSE 2 FOR THE FLU SHOT. WE NEVER GET 2 SHOTS OF THE SAME VACCINE. IM NOT AN IDIOT.

* I'm curious about your research regarding MMR, since all the negative media surrounding it are about autism, and that's been disproven (or at least the studies connecting it have been admitted to be fraudulently falsified.)  Given that we've had deaths in my county due to measles for unvaccinated babies, I can't imagine not giving this one to my child. 

ANSWER - MY DOCTOR AND I DISCUSSED THIS AND THERE IS NO OUTBREAK OF ANY OF THE MMR IN OUR AREA THEREFOR I CAN WAIT UNTIL WHEN WE FEEL COMFORTABLE GIVING IT TO HIM. PROBABLY AT HIS 15 MONTH VISIT OR AGE 2. WHO EXACTLY HAD DISPROVED THE LINK TO AUTISM? WHERE DO YOU DO YOUR RESEARCH PROVING THIS? OR DO YOU JUST LISTEN TO EVERYTHING THE CDC SAYS?

 * Quoting Dr. Sears, especially on this board, is ridiculous.  There has been research by the CDC as to timing and effectiveness of these drugs.  Dr. Sears relies on Herd Immunity for his alternate vaccination schedule, and we all know how those of us October 11 moms feel about Herd Immunity.  And again, his philosophy of not giving kids vaccines until they're more likely to contract the disease doesn't work when people aren't vaccinating their children or following the alternative schedule.  Which is why we've been having outbreaks and deaths due to illnesses that had long been eradicated.

ANSWER -  I CAN QUOTE WHOEVER I WANT. CALLING IT RIDICULOUS IS PRETTY RUDE CONSIDERING WE ALL CAN HAVE OUR OWN OPINIONS. THE OCTOBER 2011 BOARD IS JUST THAT, A BIRTH MONTH BOARD... ITS NOT SPECIFIC AND I AM SURE THERE ARE OTHER MOMS WHO FOLLOW AN ALTERNATE SCHEDULE. I PERSONALLY WOULD NEVER QUOTE THE CDC, I DONT TRUST THEM. JUST LIKE I DONT TRUST THE FDA. ALL OF THESE ARE RAN BY OUR GOVERNMENT WHO JUST WANT YOUR MONEY. YOU CANT LISTEN TO EVERYTHING SOMEONE TELLS YOU AND I DONT FOLLOW EVERYTHING DR. SEARS SAYS. I POSTED THAT FROM DR. SEARS TO SHOW THE SCHEDULE HE FOLLOWS. 

GLAD I COULD CLEAR THAT UP FOR YOU.

 

 OH AND EDITED TO ADD THAT I DID NOT ONCE TELL ANYONE TO FOLLOW WHAT I SAID BLINDLY. AND I NEVER SAID I WAS WAITING UNTIL HE WAS MORE LIKELY TO CONTRACT THE DISEASE NOR DID I SAY I WAS NOT VACCINATING. HE WILL GET ALL VACCINATIONS AND ON TIME. HE IS NOT BEHIND ON HIS VACCINES. THE CDC, AS YOU FOLLOW, HAS A CHART FOR IMMUNIZATIONS AS I AM SURE YOU ARE WELL AWARE AND IT SHOWS A TIME FRAME OF WHEN THEY SUGGEST THE IMMUNIZATION. IT CLEARLY SHOWS THAT THE SUGGESTED RANGE FOR MMR AND VARICELLA IS 12-15 MONTHS SO IF I WAIT UNTIL 15 MONTHS IT OKAY. HES NOT BEHIND AND I DONT RELY ON HERD IMMUNITY. DONT PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/parents/downloads/parent-ver-sch-0-6yrs.pdf HERES THE CHART FOR YOUR REFERENCE FROM THE CDC.

CMonkey515

Woodsie:

Yes indeed