Pregnant after a Loss

First US today, empty sac....

So, by my calcuations I should be 6 weeks today.  My HCG is 3500ish as of 830am today.  I went for us today, and there IS a gestational sac, NO yolk, nada.  I would think even if i was off a few days, with an HCG of 3500 we would have seen something more.  The ultrasound tech (who i've had before - using the same equipment) said the sac wasn't even "measuring" like it was super tiny. With one of my other pregnancies, she measured me at 4 weeks, so it's smaller that that????

Thoughts?  EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT POSITIVE, I'm not looking for false hope, if this has happened to others and it ended bad, I will welcome those stories.  Of course I want this to end up good, hubby and i decided this is our last try, I'm getting older and can't handle the stress anymore.  If you don't want to tell a whole sad story to the whole board, feel free to pm me.  Please...

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  • I have no advice to give either, I just hope you're surprised by your next ultrasound. Try not to give up hope!
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  • Hopefully they do another u/s in about a week to check for progress and.you're pleasantly surprised.

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    Hopefully they do another u/s in about a week to check for progress and.you're pleasantly surprised.

     I go back Tuesday for another one...

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  • I know the waiting is the hardest part, but try not to worry too much.

    This happened to me at my 7 week U/S, and I was pretty positive about my dates. My HCG was 30,000, and 2 days later it was 36,000. The nurse called me to tell me that me being positive about my dates, combined with an HCG level not doubling, meant that I would likely miscarry. I went in a week later to schedule a D&C and they found a HB. They put me at 6.5 weeks, but when I went in a week later they bumped me forward another week. My doc doesn't really have an explanation but says weird things happen all the time in OB, and everything is normal now.

    This happens more often than I realized, so hang in there and think positive thoughts!

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  • Hugs for you. I hope your story has a good outcome.
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  • ((hugs))  I'm sorry you are going through this.  I had a similar experience at a 7 week u/s HCG of 9000 and only a very small gestational sac or pseudosac visible.  Are they following your HCG levels this week?  Mine turned out to be a pseudo sac and an ectopic pregnancy, so it's not a very encouraging story.  But at the time of that ultrasound, my doctors definitely emphasized that they had seen this come up and turn out just fine too, as senoritaemily's story attests.   But following your betas in 48 hour intervals might help you get some more information about whether this might be viable pregnancy.   FX for you!!

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    ((hugs))  I'm sorry you are going through this.  I had a similar experience at a 7 week u/s HCG of 9000 and only a very small gestational sac or pseudosac visible.  Are they following your HCG levels this week?  Mine turned out to be a pseudo sac and an ectopic pregnancy, so it's not a very encouraging story.  But at the time of that ultrasound, my doctors definitely emphasized that they had seen this come up and turn out just fine too, as senoritaemily's story attests.   But following your betas in 48 hour intervals might help you get some more information about whether this might be viable pregnancy.   FX for you!!

    Yes, they've done my hcg 4x this week.  No more lab work scheduled yet.  So, they saw a gestational sac and you still also had an ectopic?  They keep mentioning ectopic to me, but all 3 of my pregnancies have had non-doubling hcg and this is the only one they keep talking about it... it's confusing!  Saturday my hcg was 620, monday 917, wednesday 1900 today 3500,  I really just don't have a good feeling about this, as I don't feel preg at all, and i did with the first 2 losses. 

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    Yes, they've done my hcg 4x this week.  No more lab work scheduled yet.  So, they saw a gestational sac and you still also had an ectopic?  They keep mentioning ectopic to me, but all 3 of my pregnancies have had non-doubling hcg and this is the only one they keep talking about it... it's confusing!  Saturday my hcg was 620, monday 917, wednesday 1900 today 3500,  I really just don't have a good feeling about this, as I don't feel preg at all, and i did with the first 2 losses. 

    I see...  Well the increasing betas are hopeful!  I will hold out hope for a good u/s for you next week.  

    What I had wasn't a true gestational sac, but I guess a "pseudo sac" and a gestational sac can be impossible to differentiate on ultrasound if it is small enough/early enough.  They had said it was possible that I was ~5 weeks pregnant and you could have that u/s image and it would then develop into a healthy sac/embryo.  However, my beta's were only increasing 10% over 48 hour intervals, so it became clear pretty quickly that it was not viable.  They eventually did a D&C to biopsy the tissue.  There was no intrauterine pregnancy tissue, so then they concluded it was an ectopic pg.  

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  • I went in for an u/s at 6 weeks and there was gest sac, yolk sac and no fetal pole or hb. I was so laid back calming myself and telling myself that maybe dates are just off. I did in fact end up m/c and that was in may. It turned out my progesterone was low but my betas were more than good. I was in such shock after really being in denial or rather "lack of knowledge" that I took it hard. Not that any of us would take it any other way but I realize I should of been more realistic and prepared myself.. so first of hats off to you for wanting any info you can. 

    I do however read so many posts about how they go back in a week and everything was fine and progressing. I really hope this is the case for you. Your betas are certainly promising.

    GL! I truly truly hope everything is just fine ((HUGS)) 

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  • This same thing happened to me at the beginning of this pregnancy. I went in at 6 weeks and all they could see was an empty gestiational sac. I'm not sure if what my sac measured though. I went back 2 weeks later and sure enough, there was a baby with a beautiful heartbeat. So don't give up hope!
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    No good story here..  My last pregnancy started like that.  I had an "empty sac" at 6 weeks, my doc had me in for weekly US and the sac grew a little, but unfortunately no fetus ever grew.  It was a blighted ovum and I finally miscarried naturally at 10 weeks.  Hugs to you and I hope your story turns out better than mine.
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    No good story here..  My last pregnancy started like that.  I had an "empty sac" at 6 weeks, my doc had me in for weekly US and the sac grew a little, but unfortunately no fetus ever grew.  It was a blighted ovum and I finally miscarried naturally at 10 weeks.  Hugs to you and I hope your story turns out better than mine.

    My story is almost exactly the same, except I had to take misoprostol at 10 weeks. They weren't checking my betas though. Your beta numbers do sound reassuringly high and growing, so considering that and PP's positive stories I think you do have reason to be at least a little bit hopeful. I hope it turns out well for you, and the wait goes quickly. You'll be in my thoughts. (((HUGS)))

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  • This happened with my first pregnancy...I went in 3 days after  I got a positive...I thought according to my period I should be 7 weeks but when they did the ultra sound there was nothing...just a tiny little dot that really didn't show anything...in the words of my tech I was "Barely pregnant" and shouldn't even be in the office...

    I went back a week later and there was more...and that pregnancy progressed as it should have...

    GL and I pray when you go back on tuesday everything is better..Try not to worry yourself too much...

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  • I dont have any stories as I didnt get to see the US for either of my previous pregnancies. But I am sending you my T&P and hugs!

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  • At 6 weeks with an HCG of 7000 (twins), all they found with me was an empty sac because they were too small to measure, 4 days later we found them, and two weeks after that lost one of them.. But Baby A is very healthy and we are almost 27 weeks now. I'm not trying to give you false hope, but you never know. Hopefully when you go back they'll find your LO and all will be well. Good luck! ((hugs))
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  • I went for an u/s 3 weeks after getting my BFP. I don't know how far along I was but it was at least 6.5 weeks even if I got a super early BFP. The saw just a gest sac and said it was probably not a good sign. I went back a week later and saw a HB. They said I was 6w4d. The following week, I was measured at 8w1d. ETA: this was with my first pg that we lost at 17 weeks.
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    BFP 7.7.09 - CVS 9.10.09 (Girl) - 9.24.09 Severe Fatal Malformation - D&E 10.7.09 @ 17wks
    BFP 6.1.10 - 6.10.10 Ectopic M/C @ 5wks
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    BFP 1.30.11 - CVS 3.28.11 (Girl) - EDD 10.11.11 - Born 10.6.11
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    BFP 3.18.13 - CVS 5.21.13 (Girl) - EDD 12.2.13 - Born 11.24.13
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