Noryang

jja0812

I know you are in bed by now and probably won't see this until much later. I'm writing this because I feel like Sooner is constantly under scrutiny for the way she comes across in posts, while others get a free pass on basically the same thing. Truthfully, I feel like you were the one getting defensive in the earlier post about Orajel/Hylands, not her. When someone begins to nitpick, rather than just addressing the issue, it comes across like they are starting to realize they may be losing the debate. Case in point, saying Sooner tells us "every other post" that her husband is a pediatrician. Really? You needed to say that? If it were my husband with the expertise, I would find it very hard to refrain from weighing in on every ignorant remark I read on this board, so I think she actually shows quite a bit of restraint. You had to have known how catty that would read.

We get it, you're unconventional. That's great. Different isn't necessarily better (or worse). It's just different. There are plenty of other unconventional ladies here who manage to have discussions without sounding uppity. This board benefits from hearing both sides on just about every issue, including the conventional side. Perhaps ESPECIALLY the conventional side since the general atmosphere around The Bump is to pooh-pooh the experts and do your own thing.

livinginashoe

Oh good, I was feeling a bit bored today. This should spice it up.

Happy to read that I'm not the only one who thinks Noryang sometimes takes it a bit too far. Also happy that I'm not the one stirring the sh*t. Look at that, I'm growing.

n8swife

I dont think it's really necessary to call Noryang out like this. Why couldn't you just PM her? Whether or not I agree with her or Sooner, I do not see the need for a new post bashing her.

pinkshades05

n8swife:

I dont think it's really necessary to call Noryang out like this. Why couldn't you just PM her? Whether or not I agree with her or Sooner, I do notnbsp;see the need for a new post bashing her.

My thought as well. I read the post and while I agree with some of your points, I think this would be handled better in a pm.

sooner1981

For the record, I don't want my previous posts to be construed as fighting with Nory. Like I said, I do think we are just going to have to agree to disagree on these issues. But even though I totally respect her right to raise her daughter however her believes is in her best interests and respect her right to post her beliefs and reasoning on this message board, I will also continue to post my beliefs/understandings.

I do think there is a lot of misinformation, however well meaning, on these boards. Not as much on the Feb 12 board, but in general on the Bump. Sometimes I do feel like I should comment when I read a post about something medical, and I think I have something to add. Because I don't have a medical degree myself, I do feel the need to point out the source of my information, which is usually my husband. I always think it is valuable for posters to include their sources, especially if they are disagreeing with a prior poster, maybe it is just the goofy lawyer inside of me!

I promise whenever I chime in, I am not trying to put other people down or start fights. I just want this community to have as much information as possible at its fingertips, so that we can all learn as parents. I have learned something new almost everyday from other moms on our board, and just try to give back when possiblewhich is usually through medical info or pediatrics best practices, since I don't really have a lot to add like second time moms do!

I do get defensive when I read posts suggesting that pediatricians and other docs don't have patients' best interests at heart or general digs at the medical community as a whole, because I see how much doctors sacrifice for their professions. Eighty hour work weeks, the burden of making life and death decisions for children, knowing that no matter how hard you try trhat you can't be perfect. These things weigh hard on doctors' hearts. It is hard to believe, but the large majority of doctors aren't in it for the money. My husband paid his own way through college and medical school and graduated with a huge amount of debt, despite living most of those years on literally a budget of 15 bucks a week for food and living in a very, very sketchy apartment. For his first 6 years after he became a doctor, he won't make more than 55,000 a year, and he started in the 40,000s. His student loan payments are about 25,000 per year. So, I guess it just really sticks in my craw when people on the bump and in real life claim that doctors have an ulterior motive and are getting awesome kickbacks from drug companies. Resident pediatricians used to get a free subway lunch occasionally from drug reps, but now even that has been stopped to make sure that drug companies can't influence physicians. There are so many regulations to keep bad stuff from happening.

I guess I want to say that I love for this board to be a melting pot of beliefs, ideas, parenting styles, etc. I do enjoy adding my two cents when I can, but please just don't read anything into my posts that isn't intended!

PSnory, I really do appreciate yours and your husband's service to our country!

Jchirico

Just wanted to add, Sooner, that I appreciate the medical insight (and other info) that you contribute to this board. I can remember literally only one time when I felt that what you posted reflected your personal opinion rather than the facts (I remember it because I was so surprised!). I think 99% of the time, you simply provide the facts as you understand them, not anecdotal stories. I try to keep up with current research and studies, but obviously don't read everything, so I like the fact that you share your and your husband's expertise. In fact, I would hope anyone on this board who is an expert in her field would contribute when needed... I'm a teacher with a lot of special training in special Ed and literacy, and in a few years when our kids are in school, (if our board is still active), I would certainly add my two cents when appropriate and would hope that others take it as an educated, informed answer, not trying to be a know it all.

MeganSony

Jchirico totally agree. Sooner I totally appreciate your insight and your facts do weigh heavier with me because of your husbands expertise. It is nice to have the extra info.

Not posting about whatever conflict may have arisen here... Apparently haven't gotten there yet.