January 2012 Moms

Can't help but wonder and be a bit upset...

A coworker told me how her nephew was really sick. He was crying all the time, was not pooping and the doctors already said he most likely had this (I can't remember what it's called) illness where they can't poop and it requires surgery....

So they were going back and forth for almost two months. Turns out, HE WAS JUST HUNGRY! How do you miss something like that!? This got me upset. Poor kid just wanted to eat! Maybe I'm not being realistic and something like this is more common than I think, but how can you go on for two months and not the parents nor the docs would figure out something that simple! The boy is almost 10 months now. From my understanding this was going on about 3 months ago or so...

 

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Re: Can't help but wonder and be a bit upset...

  • What?!  How did they figure this out?  

    I got my period back around 4 months and immediately had a milk shortage.  It took me about a day to figure out DD was hungry, and two days to get a scale to confirm that I wasn't making enough milk.  It took two cycles of trying to increase my supply before I committed to supplementing with formula, even though it broke my heart (I'm low from ovulation until the start of my period... all efforts to change this failed).  I'm not sure if your co-workers nephew was being bf-ed (this is the only way I can imagine you wouldn't know your child was starving), but even if "breast is best," starving is surely worse than taking formula.

    That poor little boy!   

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  • imagephdprocrastinator:

    What?!  How did they figure this out?  

    I got my period back around 4 months and immediately had a milk shortage.  It took me about a day to figure out DD was hungry, and two days to get a scale to confirm that I wasn't making enough milk.  It took two cycles of trying to increase my supply before I committed to supplementing with formula, even though it broke my heart (I'm low from ovulation until the start of my period... all efforts to change this failed).  I'm not sure if your co-workers nephew was being bf-ed (this is the only way I can imagine you wouldn't know your child was starving), but even if "breast is best," starving is surely worse than taking formula.

    That poor little boy!   

    Yeah she was BFing but still... I'm just shocked that it took them THIS long to figure it out..
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  • So... I feel like I can actually 'kind of' relate to this situation.

    This is the short version..... Ana was eating 15ozs of Bmilk while at DC - out of no where she dropped down to about 5ish ozs. She would nurse often and fine with me when we were together and ate solids just fine, however she really didnt care for/want a bottle (like at DC).
    She ended up at a weight stand still and we couldnt figure it out bc she wasnt crying (or at least the DC said she wasnt) and her poops were kind of solid and few and far between... this went on for like maybe 2 months....

    Skip forward to a weight check and the doc and I were chatting we decided to swap out the nipples to a faster flow on her bottles and BAM! She was back to normal - eating 10-15ozs at DC and pooping like 2-3 times a day. It turns out that she couldnt get the milk fast enough from the bottle and got tired and gave up. What made me feel bad was that she was just apparently partially dehydrated the whole time and thats what caused her to stop gaining weight and stop pooping....

    All that to say, I can understand why something like that might have been overlooked... idk. I guess Im not quick to judge in this situation bc I dont know the full story...

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  • imageMrsRucinski85:
    So... I feel like I can actually 'kind of' relate to this situation.

    This is the short version..... Ana was eating 15ozs of Bmilk while at DC - out of no where she dropped down to about 5ish ozs. She would nurse often and fine with me when we were together and ate solids just fine, however she really didnt care for/want a bottle (like at DC).
    She ended up at a weight stand still and we couldnt figure it out bc she wasnt crying (or at least the DC said she wasnt) and her poops were kind of solid and few and far between... this went on for like maybe 2 months....

    Skip forward to a weight check and the doc and I were chatting we decided to swap out the nipples to a faster flow on her bottles and BAM! She was back to normal - eating 10-15ozs at DC and pooping like 2-3 times a day. It turns out that she couldnt get the milk fast enough from the bottle and got tired and gave up. What made me feel bad was that she was just apparently partially dehydrated the whole time and thats what caused her to stop gaining weight and stop pooping....

    All that to say, I can understand why something like that might have been overlooked... idk. I guess Im not quick to judge in this situation bc I dont know the full story...

     

    Actually I think this is a bit different. She was eating enough with you just wasn't taking the bottle at daycare. But you were BFing and had enough. This woman was EBF (no daycare) and I don't know given all the info I got from my coworker I feel like they should have put two and two together much sooner. Instead they were talking some weird illness and surgery! How did not anybody think of, maybe your supply is too low!! And he's 6 months and may want solids! Know what I mean. My DD also stopped taking the bottle for a day or two at the DC. Luckily my pedi said right away to check the flow of the bottle but I can see how that may take a bit longer to figure out, like it was in your case.... But, it's good to hear another story to put things in perspective. Like I said, I may be over reacting but this case just seemed so extreme to me...

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  • bigbear, congratulations.

    There are not too many posts that lead me to actually log in and post a response, but this one definitely deserved it.

    I think you had better find more important things to be upset with if this really did upset you. It happens. The thing with breastfeeding is that you don't know exactly how much the baby is getting. Doctors and LCs generally say keep nursing, and your body will create the right amount of milk. It is not like the baby was starving at this point. Solid foods will not always fill the void, so you can't assume that the mom wasn't offering. And she figured it out before you could say things were really bad.

    I was EBF (with solids) until last week. When Celeste was starting to get fussy and I felt like she wasn't getting enough milk I went through three doctors appointments, all of which said just keep nursing- don't offer formula because that will throw off the supply and demand logistics. It wasn't until I got pregnant again and felt in my heart that she needed formula to supplement that I bit the bullet and went with my gut instinct. 

    So don't judge. And find something better do with your time, you have your own baby to worry about. 

     

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    bigbear, congratulations.

    There are not too many posts that lead me to actually log in and post a response, but this one definitely deserved it.

    I think you had better find more important things to be upset with if this really did upset you. It happens. The thing with breastfeeding is that you don't know exactly how much the baby is getting. Doctors and LCs generally say keep nursing, and your body will create the right amount of milk. It is not like the baby was starving at this point. Solid foods will not always fill the void, so you can't assume that the mom wasn't offering. And she figured it out before you could say things were really bad.

    I was EBF (with solids) until last week. When Celeste was starting to get fussy and I felt like she wasn't getting enough milk I went through three doctors appointments, all of which said just keep nursing- don't offer formula because that will throw off the supply and demand logistics. It wasn't until I got pregnant again and felt in my heart that she needed formula to supplement that I bit the bullet and went with my gut instinct. 

    So don't judge. And find something better do with your time, you have your own baby to worry about. 

     

    I agree.  I had to EP because I had no idea how much Jameson was getting and if it was enough.  Turns out it wasn't.    I was a first time mom who had no experience with BF so I had no idea what was right and what was wrong,  I had to take Jameson to the doctor to find out he wasn't gaining enough weight and was hungry.  Babies can't talk so maybe it wasn't easy for her to understand his cry cues (especially if he wasn't pooping and she thought maybe he was constipated and backed up).  

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    imageToronto2012:

    bigbear, congratulations.

    There are not too many posts that lead me to actually log in and post a response, but this one definitely deserved it.

    I think you had better find more important things to be upset with if this really did upset you. It happens. The thing with breastfeeding is that you don't know exactly how much the baby is getting. Doctors and LCs generally say keep nursing, and your body will create the right amount of milk. It is not like the baby was starving at this point. Solid foods will not always fill the void, so you can't assume that the mom wasn't offering. And she figured it out before you could say things were really bad.

    I was EBF (with solids) until last week. When Celeste was starting to get fussy and I felt like she wasn't getting enough milk I went through three doctors appointments, all of which said just keep nursing- don't offer formula because that will throw off the supply and demand logistics. It wasn't until I got pregnant again and felt in my heart that she needed formula to supplement that I bit the bullet and went with my gut instinct. 

    So don't judge. And find something better do with your time, you have your own baby to worry about. 

     

    I agree.  I had to EP because I had no idea how much Jameson was getting and if it was enough.  Turns out it wasn't.    I was a first time mom who had no experience with BF so I had no idea what was right and what was wrong,  I had to take Jameson to the doctor to find out he wasn't gaining enough weight and was hungry.  Babies can't talk so maybe it wasn't easy for her to understand his cry cues (especially if he wasn't pooping and she thought maybe he was constipated and backed up).  

    Well then ditto! I was actually more upset with the docs b/c this was going on for two months! He was not gaining weight, she was BFing and the docs were thinking of all possible horrible illnesses but not the one simple and very coomon thing! Could a FTM miss it, YES but should the docs miss it for this long? I don't think so. I also said right away, that I may be blowing it out of proportion but I just feel really bad for that little guy. It was a comment, and even a comment to hear what other moms think (about the situation as I felt like it could have been discovered sooner, NOT to go out of your busy time to judge me for the post)

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