Miscarriage/Pregnancy Loss

Second miscarriage in 2 months

We are TTC our second child.  I had a copper IUD taken out in June, got pregnant the first cycle.  I found out on a Monday that I was pregnant at about 4.5 weeks but it didn't really feel "right."  I took a HPT a few days before my period was due, and it was negative, then took one a couple days after it was due and the line was there but was very faint.  I didn't really feel pregnant, and the line on subsequent HPTs did not become any darker throughout that week, and that Friday I went to OB for beta level.  The day after, I started spotting.  On Sunday, July 15, I started bleeding.  I called the OB and she was very dismissive, told me I was "just" having a chemical pregnancy and it would seem like I was getting my period.  The next day, I called the OB office to find out my beta level, and it had been 8.  They didn't recommend any further testing, and just said a very dismissive "sorry."  I was sad and disappointed, but I'd had a feeling that the pregnancy was not a healthy one.

 Two weeks ago, again on a Monday, I found out that I was pregnant again.  This time, I really did (still do) feel pregnant: sore boobs, nausea, extreme bloating, crying at drop of a hat.  I went in for beta test that day, and level was 105.  Approx 60 hours later, it was 276.  This past Monday, I went in and had a u/s, which showed a healthy looking gestational sac and "plump" healthy endometrium.  The sac measured 4 weeks, and the earliest I could have been was 5 weeks, so I was a little tiny bit concerned, but this pregnancy seemed "right", and I thought I'd be just fine.  On Wednesday morning, my OB called to tell me my beta was in the 400s... if it was doubling every 48 hours, it should have been around 1100 by then.  I was hysterical, went into his office for another beta.  He was trying to be encouraging, told me not to give up hope yet, and everyone at the office was very kind and supportive.  That afternoon, I got a call that the beta was 464.  Not rising. 

 Still, my OB is trying to be hopeful, says we want to make sure that we don't just "treat the numbers" and that we make sure this pregnancy is not viable.  I can't imagine that it is, with numbers like mine, but of course I'm still sort of holding on to hope that maybe things will be okay.  I am going in on Tuesday morning for repeat ultrasound and for repeat beta.  I'm sure it will confirm that the pregnancy is not viable.  I should have been about 6-7 weeks on Monday.

 I am not bleeding, I still feel nauseated, I'm still so disgustingly bloated.  If I hadn't had the early testing, I would think I had a healthy pregnancy.  This feels so much like my first (and successful) pregnancy with my now 2.5 year old son.  I didn't have any testing with him until my first ultrasound at 8 weeks, where we saw his beautiful brilliant heart beat.  

 This is just so sad and weird and surreal.  I go through my days mostly fine, but definitely have moments of sadness throughout the day.  I feel like I'm waiting for a hurricane or a tornado.  I'm just waiting to start bleeding, and for the cramping to start.

My OB says I don't need to have a D&C to do genetic testing on the embryo.  He said I'll see it and that it will look like a marble, and I can just bring it in to him for testing.  How am I supposed to catch it?  Won't it just come out into the toilet?  Has anyone else done this? 

 After this is over, he is going to send me to a maternal-fetal specialist to see what's going on.  I'm 36, so I definitely want to pursue testing now.  I don't even know if I want to try again, because I don't' want to go through m/c again.  But, I'm pretty sure I will try again anyway. 

 

 

Re: Second miscarriage in 2 months

  • I'm so sorry for your losses and I don't really have any advice for the majority of the substance of your post. 

    But (TMI WARNING) I'm pretty sure that I flushed my embryo down with my stool.  I'm really really upset about it.  Of course, there is no way of knowing.  And if I were braver (or more insane), I would have fished around in the toilet.  But I felt something very large come out of me.  What I should have done is kept a jar by the toilet and when I went to poo, I should have held the jar under my vagina.  The same muscles you use to push out the excrement are the same you use to push out other stuff, so that measure should come in handy to you.  It might be a little messy, but it would be less messy than fishing in the toilet!    

    Good luck to you. 

    Mother to 3 angels: D&C May 2006 - My cherry blossom child. TTC since March 2012. BFP March 2012; CP March 2012 - 4 weeks 1 day. BFP July 8, 2012; No HB August 6, 2012 - 8 weeks 2 days. M/C August 21, 2012. Cremated in our backyard 5 days later. Starting charting 10/29/12. Stalk me at My Ovulation Chart
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  • Thank you.  Yes, I'm afraid I'm going to just pee it out into the toilet, and not know what it is among the mess of blood and blood clots that I'm expecting to see.  I had a ton of blood and clots with my first m/c, so I guess this will be the same.  So, how will I know if I can find the embryo?  I've taken some plastic cups and poked holes in them to act as "strainers" so I can catch the embryo.  I hope it works. 
  • I am so sorry for your losses.  I told my husband the same thing--just don't know if I can physically and emotionally go through this again.  However, if we don't keep trying, we'll never get a baby, right?!  I am 32 and Hubby is 35 so we feel a little nervous too.  The only suggestion I can give you is what my doc told me.  She said to wait 3 normal cycles before trying again.  I have heard that women that get pregnant the cycle following a m/c often m/c again.....not sure if there's any truth to that but I am waiting until the holidays are over before try 2!

    imagedatan:

    We are TTC our second child.  I had a copper IUD taken out in June, got pregnant the first cycle.  I found out on a Monday that I was pregnant at about 4.5 weeks but it didn't really feel "right."  I took a HPT a few days before my period was due, and it was negative, then took one a couple days after it was due and the line was there but was very faint.  I didn't really feel pregnant, and the line on subsequent HPTs did not become any darker throughout that week, and that Friday I went to OB for beta level.  The day after, I started spotting.  On Sunday, July 15, I started bleeding.  I called the OB and she was very dismissive, told me I was "just" having a chemical pregnancy and it would seem like I was getting my period.  The next day, I called the OB office to find out my beta level, and it had been 8.  They didn't recommend any further testing, and just said a very dismissive "sorry."  I was sad and disappointed, but I'd had a feeling that the pregnancy was not a healthy one.

     Two weeks ago, again on a Monday, I found out that I was pregnant again.  This time, I really did (still do) feel pregnant: sore boobs, nausea, extreme bloating, crying at drop of a hat.  I went in for beta test that day, and level was 105.  Approx 60 hours later, it was 276.  This past Monday, I went in and had a u/s, which showed a healthy looking gestational sac and "plump" healthy endometrium.  The sac measured 4 weeks, and the earliest I could have been was 5 weeks, so I was a little tiny bit concerned, but this pregnancy seemed "right", and I thought I'd be just fine.  On Wednesday morning, my OB called to tell me my beta was in the 400s... if it was doubling every 48 hours, it should have been around 1100 by then.  I was hysterical, went into his office for another beta.  He was trying to be encouraging, told me not to give up hope yet, and everyone at the office was very kind and supportive.  That afternoon, I got a call that the beta was 464.  Not rising. 

     Still, my OB is trying to be hopeful, says we want to make sure that we don't just "treat the numbers" and that we make sure this pregnancy is not viable.  I can't imagine that it is, with numbers like mine, but of course I'm still sort of holding on to hope that maybe things will be okay.  I am going in on Tuesday morning for repeat ultrasound and for repeat beta.  I'm sure it will confirm that the pregnancy is not viable.  I should have been about 6-7 weeks on Monday.

     I am not bleeding, I still feel nauseated, I'm still so disgustingly bloated.  If I hadn't had the early testing, I would think I had a healthy pregnancy.  This feels so much like my first (and successful) pregnancy with my now 2.5 year old son.  I didn't have any testing with him until my first ultrasound at 8 weeks, where we saw his beautiful brilliant heart beat.  

     This is just so sad and weird and surreal.  I go through my days mostly fine, but definitely have moments of sadness throughout the day.  I feel like I'm waiting for a hurricane or a tornado.  I'm just waiting to start bleeding, and for the cramping to start.

    My OB says I don't need to have a D&C to do genetic testing on the embryo.  He said I'll see it and that it will look like a marble, and I can just bring it in to him for testing.  How am I supposed to catch it?  Won't it just come out into the toilet?  Has anyone else done this? 

     After this is over, he is going to send me to a maternal-fetal specialist to see what's going on.  I'm 36, so I definitely want to pursue testing now.  I don't even know if I want to try again, because I don't' want to go through m/c again.  But, I'm pretty sure I will try again anyway. 



  • I had a D&C so I don't have any experience with collecting the embryo myself.  However, I think what I would do is keep a container by the toilet and catch anything that I think might be it.  When in doubt, keep it and let the doctor sort through the material.  They say often the embryo is greyish and tissue-y, rather than just a clot.  Hope this helps, and I'm so sorry for your loss.


     
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