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Prophylactic antibiotics?

Did anyone's RE prescribe them antibiotics to  take prior to ER?  I've read mixed things about taking them vs not taking them.  The NIH published 1 study that had the rate of miscarriage increased when on Ab vs not.  It did worry me a bit to read that.

Thanks! 

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Re: Prophylactic antibiotics?

  • I have to take them for 5 days starting the night of ER, and I'm not thrilled about it. (All these meds, and it is the antibiotics I feel strongest about!) I had a long discussion with my RE about it, and he said that, while rare, infections from the procedure can be nasty, and hurt future fertility. And I have been thinking about it, and I do think it will be nice to not have to worry if any post-ER cramping is the start of a deadly infection. :)

    Do you have a link to that study? Statistics can be easily manipulated, and a lot of things go in to the validity of a study. A study based off of 200 pregnancies is going to be a lot less valid than one based off of 3000, for example. And even if one study shows a result, often other studies contradict it. So many variables. I would not worry. :)  

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  • I took them starting the night of ER for 4 days.
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  • I am pretty sure that I have been given antibiotics in the IV on the day of ER...I vaguely remember hearing them tell me that.
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  • I've started taking two meds the night of ER
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  • imageKiller Tomato:

    I have to take them for 5 days starting the night of ER, and I'm not thrilled about it. (All these meds, and it is the antibiotics I feel strongest about!) I had a long discussion with my RE about it, and he said that, while rare, infections from the procedure can be nasty, and hurt future fertility. And I have been thinking about it, and I do think it will be nice to not have to worry if any post-ER cramping is the start of a deadly infection. :)

    Do you have a link to that study? Statistics can be easily manipulated, and a lot of things go in to the validity of a study. A study based off of 200 pregnancies is going to be a lot less valid than one based off of 3000, for example. And even if one study shows a result, often other studies contradict it. So many variables. I would not worry. :)  

    Thanks for the reply :) I can't seem to figure out to link on my iPad lol.  Try googling ivf prophylactic antiobiotics and it's on the NIH website.

    I hear what your saying though.  I manage clinical trials for a pharma company and know all too well how these stats work lol.  But the p value does not lie which is why I was a little concerned.  I have my prep meeting tomorrow so I will ask my RE since I have been relying on Dr Google for now! (yes always a bad idea) 

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    imageKiller Tomato:

    I have to take them for 5 days starting the night of ER, and I'm not thrilled about it. (All these meds, and it is the antibiotics I feel strongest about!) I had a long discussion with my RE about it, and he said that, while rare, infections from the procedure can be nasty, and hurt future fertility. And I have been thinking about it, and I do think it will be nice to not have to worry if any post-ER cramping is the start of a deadly infection. :)

    Do you have a link to that study? Statistics can be easily manipulated, and a lot of things go in to the validity of a study. A study based off of 200 pregnancies is going to be a lot less valid than one based off of 3000, for example. And even if one study shows a result, often other studies contradict it. So many variables. I would not worry. :)  

    Thanks for the reply :) I can't seem to figure out to link on my iPad lol.  Try googling ivf prophylactic antiobiotics and it's on the NIH website.

    I hear what your saying though.  I manage clinical trials for a pharma company and know all too well how these stats work lol.  But the p value does not lie which is why I was a little concerned.  I have my prep meeting tomorrow so I will ask my RE since I have been relying on Dr Google for now! (yes always a bad idea) 

    The only one I could find was 

     https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15687942

    (sorry, can't do clicky) and that can't be the one you are referring to, between the non-significant increase of miscarriage, the small sample size, and the fact that it studied antibiotics that are not the norm for prescribing. (Most REs do a z-pack or doxycycline, I believe.) 

    If you only found one study, I wouldn't worry. People are complicated, IVF is complicated, and there are just too many variables to account for. If multiple large studies showed a correlation, I would worry, but not if one or two small ones did. Also, depending on when the study was done, protocols themselves have changed significantly. I never expected to be on some of the meds they are giving me, but they say success rates are better. If the antibiotics do have a negative effect, maybe the newer protocols counteract it. Let us know what your RE says...I am interested. 

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  • My husband takes Doxycycline starting the same time I start stims.  I take it once, the night before ER.
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  • yes I took them starting 5 days before
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  • My RE's office usually prescribes 1gm of Zithromax to be taken the night before ER, but I'm allergic to erythromycin so I was prescribed 100mg of Doxy starting 2 days before ER for 7 days.


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  • Hubby and I both have to take a 10 day course prior to ER. Starting on  day 3 of my last bcp pack. Then I take doxycycline again at the time of ER.

     

  • I was given Doxycycline twice per day for five days, but I didn't start taking it until after ER. I also had to take an oral steroid for swelling. DH didn't have to take anything. 

    I am strongly against over-prescribing antibiotics, so I can see some of PP's points, but I haven't taken one since college, so I figured it was OK... 

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  • Yes I was prescribed the antibiotics and took them starting the night of ER and 4 days after...I wouldn't worry too much.

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