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October 2011 Moms
christiney06
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**Liz/Llama**
christiney06
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so, it is pretty obvious you are not a fan of mine. that's fine, i really could give two shlts. what i do not appreciate is you saying things about me as fact that could not be further from the truth. I do NOT start drama on purpose. I like to have discussions on this and other boards about topics that there are many opinions on. why is that bad? can you not handle a healthy debate? why can't you just look at it like that instead of saying "the author of those comments irritates me more than anything because she says things just to start arguments and will even say, I like the discussions, but will then deny she's starting drama just for the sake of starting drama. Just own up to it."
for a Gold poster who spends all day long on message boards, it appears you get a little to riled up over the internet. the fact you actually wrote "the whole, 'I'm going to wait until my kid asks to use the toilet' is pissing me off too." is a little scary. why on earth would a strangers parenting decisions make you angry?? lighten up!!This discussion has been closed.
Re: **Liz/Llama**
Or in the thread where this was actually written. But I guess she had to bring it here so it would be more "public."
To save you the trouble of cutting and pasting, I just wrote on the other thread...
Christiney started a thread trying to call me out... I seriously don't have it in me to care.
I've said it.
lolz
Because clearly that wouldn't bring a good debate or rule people up... Duh
FTFR (for the further record) debates are usually based on facts and legitimate sources.
https://www.debate.org/help/articles/tips-for-a-better-debate/
But you didn't say IMO/IME!!111!!!
I don't know, b/c you're not paying good enough attention? I post in all sorts of threads. what on earth did i say that made it so uncivilized? once again i will state that i do not post anything to intentionally rile anyone up. also, thanks for ignoring my questions. that is why i posted this for all to see, in the hopes you wouldn't ignore it like i'm sure you would if i PM'ed you. guess that backfired!
:::huge eyeroll:::
wow! mocking, how original!!
I appreciate you guys sticking up for Liz, that's great that you all have each others backs, but i've never done a thing to you, Pear. in fact i felt really bad the other day that you were feeling guilty for the troll invasion. i figured if anyone would understand being called a drama llama for no good reason it would be you.
Well TBH Christiney, I do think that you rile things up. If it is not intentional, maybe you should consider how your posts come across. The things you say tend to sound extreme, angry or dismissive.
Also, I am a bit of a drama llama. My mother is one half drama llama on her father's side. I own that. I suggested once that you own up to it as well. It seems ridiculous to start an entire post about how you don't like drama, especially since you claim to give so few shiits.
ok, that's fair. i do honestly apologize for coming off that way. I know how hard it is sometimes to convey tone on the internet and maybe b/c i've been on these boards for over 6yrs now i have a shorter fuse for crap like the EC / anti CIO posts. BUT I am by no means in an exclusive club on this BMB. there's a reason that the UO post is a popular weekly post, i think most of us enjoy some drama.
in my mind i look at like this: drama would be me saying "wow, you are a real crap mom b/c you think putting your baby over a toilet 20x a day is a good idea". that would obviously be mean and trying to hurt someone. me just posting a general "EC is a crazy idea" type comment isn't that dramatic to me. i'm just stating an opinion that many others on this board share.
my whole point to Liz is that you can't take this board to seriously. unless you attack me or my kids personally, i don't ever get mad at any of these debates or comments. if i was the EC mom and read all the anti EC replies, i would just think "ok, whatever , we have a difference of opinion" and not let it bother me. no one is going to agree with all your parenting decisions, esp. on the internet. it's not my fault what may rile someone up. like i've said 10x now, i do not start any crap for the sole reason of pissing people off. i'm sorry for making it seem that way.
Your choice of words pretty much implies the same. Stupid Chrome browser won't let me highlight your post, so I just whittled it down to the essentials.
If something is not your thing, don't bother posting or just say, "meh, it's not something I would do", but you find it necessary to suggest that people are dumb or crazy for not raising their kids the way you are doing it.
why am i the only person being called out for doing this? there are so many posters who say similar things, but since i'm not in the cool kids club that makes me public enemy #1? if this board really went by the "if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all" motto, it would be an even slower board than it is now. yes, i think EC is crap and i can state my opinion on a public message board. that does not mean that i think that mom who is trying it is crazy or dumb. that would be an assumption based on sensitive feelings over your parenting choice. i can't control that.
well, don't admit that!! that means you are mean and love to start drama!! the quotes in my OP were from PWD on proboards. that is where Liz called me out and why i put LLama in the subject, since that is her name over there.
In my opinion, you don't want me to answer anything, you want to come here and say 'look everyone, Liz is a b!tch' and that's fine. In my opinion, you like to stir sh!t up because disagreements seem to be civilized until you come in and eye roll and scream you thoughts on how everyone else is parenting incorrectly.
Btw, I never attacked your child. Do I think waiting for your kid to come to you and say, 'I'd like to use the potty now' is ridiculous, absolutely. Are you going to let your kid wear pull-ups until they are 8 if that's when they choose to go on the toilet? But, that's me thinking your being silly, not your kid.
As i I said before, I'm all for healthy debate, but when it happens organically. I think you purposefully push things to create debates where they would have just been normal conversations where not everyone had the same opinion.
If you really didn't give two sh!ts or didn't want to start drama, you wouldn't have started this thread...
But hey, that's just my opinion.
1. i honestly do. i really am curious as to why my PT approach would piss you off. when have i ever said that someone is parenting incorrectly? please, point it out to me b/c as far as i can remember, i haven't. like i've said a million times now, if someone takes it that way that is not under my control. i have never, ever typed those words.
2. obviously my son will PT before the age of 8, that sentence right there is the epitome of being dramatic. i ask him every few days if he wants to use the toilet and 95% of the time he gets upset and goes to hide. so are you suggesting that I say "to bad for you kid, you're 3 now so this is what is supposed to happen and you have no say!"?? sorry, my kid has major sensory issues and i am not going to force him to do something that will scare him or make his cry just b/c i want to be all done with diapers. I am on another board with over 400 women and my approach is the norm over there. my friends little boy came to her one day when he had just turned 3 and said "momma, i don't want to wear diapers anymore" and bam...that was it. he was ready and it didn't take bribes or a bottle of bleach to PT him. this is what i am hoping will happen with my son eventually.
i never said you attacked my kid. I was trying to say that in the past,girls who have done that (one old Oct. bumpie actually had the balls to call my son ugly) is what actually gets me pissed off. not this type of stuff, not even a little bit. it's the internet and even if you think you are E-BFF's with someone, unless you have met them they are still essentially a stranger to you.
3. I said i don't give to shIts if you like me. i do care if you call me out and say something about me that isn't true. you can't read my mind so don't make it seem like you know what's in my head. I made this post b/c i figured if you all think i am such a *** stirrer, why not? maybe more people will go over to DWP and see how the posters there talk about others on this board.
yes, i know Mack. i was trying to be ironic. I'm a smart girl, i know how it looks and that was part of the reason for doing it.
there is a post on DWP about making the Oct. 11 refugees board private and sending PM's to only certain members over here that make the cut. if that's not a cool kids club than i don't know what is.
Right there, you said I attacked your kids.
As for your other point in a following post, DWP is a public board that everyone here knows about. They can go look there whenever they want. I have nothing to hide, and I'm clearly not trying to deny or back track on anything I said. I don't consider saying that the crap you were spouting irritated me is calling you out, but to each their own.
It clearly bothered you, get it out, I can take it.
Although, with you posting this here and not there, it feels a little bit like the FBers saying 'I'll be watching you'.
WHOA. Big reading fail on your part. That is so not what that post said at all. They were discussing ways for all the Oct moms to get together on DWP without alerting the FB trolls, thus the PMs.
See? See how you just tried to stir up some shiit?
ha ha, reading fail, i think not. i guess Eloise saying "We should just pm all the people we like" meant she would be PM'ing everyone on the board, not just her e-bff's. SUUUUUUREEEE.....
Just want to point a few things out.
If the first bold part rings true, why can you not use grammar correctly. Reading your posts hurts my head. The shift key is your friend. And don't use the excuse it's your phone. You can set your phone to auto-correct.
Secondly, if you aren't a sh!t stirrer (and you also don't give two sh!ts), why do you feel the need to point this out. I didn't know about this, but it doesn't bother me. I like TB. I tried out GBCN, but really couldn't keep up with both.
1. i was saying it as a general "you", i assumed that was obvious. if i really thought you were attacking my kids i would make it very clear and say "you attacked my kids, b*tch".
2. i don't have an acct. on DWP and i wasn't going to make one just for that. i honestly haven't trolled over there in almost 2 months but i had a feeling I would be mentioned after that post so i decided to go check it out and there it was.
Considering you started a thread to call me out, no, it wasn't obvious that you were using a general "you".
If you had a feeling you were going to be mentioned other places, then you knew you were sh!t stirring and being dramatic, otherwise, why would anyone make a comment?
I am so excited to taunt your H with a crawfish!
1. whatever, i'm not on a phone. i just don't like using caps most of the time. is this really something you felt the need to bring up? I could switch it up to ALL CAPS ALL THE TIME AND REALLY MAKE YOUR HEAD EXPLODE!
2. because Mack asked "since when is there a cool kids club?" and that was my answer. saying you will be PM'ing just "the people we like" to join another board would make anyone think there's a cool kids club. plus, i've already admitted that this post was to cause drama/try to actually get some answers. if that's how i've already been labeled then i will try to live up to the hype
A few posts ago you were trying to act like you don't realize how you come off. So, in case you still don't realize it, YOU ARE BEING A BIITCH RIGHT NOW. Hunnybunny was being all level headed about it, and you escalated it. You do that all. the. time.
And up until now, I really did think you were just really effing rude. But then you say things like this:
...and I realize you are just dense. Because that's what she did mean. "People we like" meant people who are not FB trolls.
What this all boils down to is that you assumed you were being left out of some imagined cool kids club and got a bad case of butthurtz.
::Poking my head in and looking around::
Did judgment day come early?
I don't know why but I seriously love the term butthurt.
Oh and I didn't say to use caps, there is a thing called shift. It only capitalizes one letter.
ETA: the proper words (I fale at lyfe!!1!)
I've only had one glass of wine, but I can't stop laughing at your PIP.
I love it too. And calm your tits. I say that one way too much... DD said it to DH the other night. I was saving that for FFFC but it needed to come out now.