Am I allowed to say...

Izybel18

...that I can't stand reading the 3-6 mo board? DD is 5 months so I pop over there to read about solids and toys and to see what other babies are doing, but there are SO MANY threads about CIO and sleep training and it just makes me sad. I need to stay over here on this board

tokenhoser

Yeah, that's a rough patch to talk with parents that don't share your school of thought.

Hang here. We like talking about toys and solids (but a lot of us do BLW).

KateLouise

Yeah definitey hard work. I go to a parent group where most/the vocal ones are pro CIO.

There may be others in the group who aren't, but no one says anything.

The pro CIO crowd look at me like I'm insane when I mention bed-sharing and the like.

Luckily in a couple of years we can move onto smacking, sending children to bed without their dinner, and having them sit in one spot for hours.

skibunny59

 I don't like listening to my DD cry and I know that CIO is not for me however, I don't like to judge other parents.  I don't know what their situation is and what other methods they have tried first.  I would have to be pretty desperate to do CIO and even then I don't think I would be able to do it but everybody is different.  I like to believe that as parents we are all just trying to do the best we can.

skibunny59

KateLouise:

The pro CIO crowd look at me like I'm insane when I mention bed-sharing and the like.

This was me before I had DD.  We have good friends that bed-share with their little ones and I always thought they were crazy and I always said to myself that I would never do that.  Then DD was born and I changed all of my feelings towards having her in bed with me.  I couldn't listen to my sweet little newborn cry and there was no way I was getting up every hour so I brought her into bed with us.  I loved it!  She is now in her own bed but I do miss her.

That's stinks that the women in your parent group aren't more open-minded. 

Izybel18

KateLouise:

Luckily in a couple of years we can move onto smacking, sending children to bed without their dinner, and having them sit in one spot for hours.

Oh no. I hadn't even thought about that kind of thing, but I'm sure you're right. As PP said, I also believe that most parents try to do the right thing, and some people do try everything before CIO. I guess what gets me is how the most negative-seeming strategies (in AP terms anyway) are often the most popular ones to try  

00jennifer00

That's always when I fall away from forums too because everyone is torturing their babies.  I hate it.

CalinsBride

00jennifer00:

That's always when I fall away from forums too because everyone is torturing their babies.  I hate it.

Torture? Really?

pepomntpat

00jennifer00:

That's always when I fall away from forums too because everyone is torturing their babies.  I hate it.

LOL! Torture?  

No one likes to hear their babies cry. No one wants their babies to be upset. People do want to sleep. They want their babies to get enough sleep. Their parents, pediatricians, grandparents, friends, neighbors, busy body old ladies at church, etc are all telling them to let their baby cry. They are tired, they hear it worked, it does work, so the baby cries for a bit and then everyone sleeps. It is not for everyone, but it is certainly not torture.

I felt like I was torturing my daughter when I sat there patting her back and shushing her when she wanted me to pick her up. I was teasing her. It was awful. I did Ferber and she slept and we all stopped being cranky zombies and we are happy now.  My daughter has a happy well rested Mom who has the energy to play with her. Worked for us.

chicagobridelibby

00jennifer00:

That's always when I fall away from forums too because everyone is torturing their babies.  I hate it.

chicagobridelibby

00jennifer00:

That's always when I fall away from forums too because everyone is torturing their babies.  I hate it.

good gravy...torture...really?

Kaeldrasmommy

00jennifer00:

That's always when I fall away from forums too because everyone is torturing their babies.  I hate it.

That's a little more than harsh. Babies do cry. It happens.

aimeelclark

I KNOW! My DD is almost 10 months old and totally does NOT sleep through the night. If I have to read or hear anyone else mention CIO ..... 

kacelle

00jennifer00:

That's always when I fall away from forums too because everyone is torturing their babies.  I hate it.

This is absurd.  We sleep trained (Ferber's method) at 6.5 months, and it took all of one night with minimal crying (and regular check-ins) to get her STTN.  No, it isn't for everyone, but it was not torture. 

Cupcakes4life

00jennifer00:

That's always when I fall away from forums too because everyone is torturing their babies.  I hate it.

Am I the only one who read this as a sarcastic poke at OP? 

sweetpea2003

KateLouise:

Yeah definitey hard work. I go to a parent group where most/the vocal ones are pro CIO.

There may be others in the group who aren't, but no one says anything.

The pro CIO crowd look at me like I'm insane when I mention bed-sharing and the like.

Luckily in a couple of years we can move onto smacking, sending children to bed without their dinner, and having them sit in one spot for hours.

Right, because people who don't bed share will go ahead and do all of those things. 

This right here is why this board is almost unreadable.  It is incredibly ironic how many posts on this board are people worried about being "judged" for baby wearing or co-sleeping but then are so quick to make ridiculous and offensive blanket statements about non-AP mothers. 

And KateLouise, what do you consider "pro CIO"?  People who sleep train at all?