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MEMORIAL POST FOR SEAN (karenannmark)

Hello ladies,

As promised here is the post for Karen and her husband dedicated to the loving memory of her precious son, Sean.  She knows it is here.  Please leave a message to her and Mark.  Bible verses, poems, PIP of candles lit in Sean's name or any message of condolence is appropriate and appreciated.

I hope this little show of love and support brings Karen and her husband some comfort during the grieving process.  I know we all wish more than anything that this wasn't necessary and that there was more we could do to help.

Continued Thoughts and Prayers for Karen, Mark, their family and of course their Angel, Sean.

((HUGS))

EDIT:  I know a fellow bumpie that has Karen's mailing address in Ireland if you would like it to send a card, PM me and I will pass your info on to that bumpie and she can pass on the details.  Also, I have PMd Karen the link to this post as, it may just be too much for her to read all the messages right now, but she may want to as some point down the road.

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  • First off Karen, let me offer you my most deepest condolences.  I can not even begin to imagine what you are going through at this time.  I have suffered a pregnancy loss, but I was never even close to bringing my lo home, like you were with Sean.  I am so sorry that you find yourself here. 

    I ran across this poem recently and thought it probably speaks volumes to your love for Sean.  I thought it was beautiful and wanted to share it with you today, in Sean's honour.

    I thought of you with love today, but that is nothing new.
    I thought about you yesterday and the day before that too.
    I think of you in silence. I often say your name.
    But all I have are memories and your picture in a frame.

    Your memory is my keepsake, with which I'll never part.
    God has you in His keeping. I have you in my heart.
    I shed tears for what might have been. A million times I've cried.
    If love alone could have saved you, you never would have died.

    In life I loved you dearly. In death I love you still.
    In my heart you hold a place no one can ever fill.
    It broke my heart to lose you but you didn't go alone
    for part of me went with you, the day God took you home

    I am so very sorry for your loss.  You will always be Sean's Mother, please never let anyone tell you different.

    With love and hugs and deepest sympathies.

    Kelly

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  • When my nephew died, one of the things that brought us the most comfort was the floral arrangement my aunt sent. Amongst all the white roses and carnations, a single bright sunflower stood out like ray of hope. There is nothing I can say, no words I can offer, that will make this easier. So, I give you a field of sunflowers in hopes you can find light in the dark. 

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    Hi Karen,

    All week I've been thinking of a Japanese practice that memorializes the loss of infants and children. I'm not sure why since it's been 14 years since I took a survey of Japanese history class, but my vague memories of learning about this have kept coming back to me since learning of your loss.

    Basically Shintoism is the co-religion with Buddhism in Japan. When someone loses a child in Japan they can place Ema(prayer plaques) or personal effects in any Shinto shrine one finds. Anywhere, anytime you feel the need to remember your child - whether it's at a big, ornate temple or a road side shrine - you can say a prayer and leave a monument to your loss.

     I tried to find a picture to PIP but couldn't, and didn't want to search for an official description because I like the idea that has settled in my mind - especially over the last week.

    This isn't a prayer and it might not make much sense. I just liked the idea of it.

    I hope you and Sean are coping and finding comfort in each other.

    -Heather

  • Karen,

    "May there be angels to uplift you, prayers to empower you and love to turn your fears to faith"

    Sharon

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  • Karen, I have not stopped thinking about you all week.  My heart aches for you and your husband.  I am not good with words, but I just really wanted to let you know that I am thinking of you and Mark and keeping you both and Sean in my prayers.
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  • Karen and Mark-

    I am so very sorry for the loss of your precious boy.  I have been thinking of you both a lot and sending prayers that you will find comfort in your love for each other.  I am not sure if you are religious but I went to our church and tomorrow morning at 10:45AM Mass at St. Anthony's Church, Father Walker will be saying it in honor of Sean James. Please know that I am here if you ever need to talk.

    Hugs to you and you family, Amelia


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  • Karen-

    I know there are no words that can make things better, but please know that your family is in my prayers each day.  I found this poem about what makes a mother and I hope that it brings you some comfort.

    What Makes A Mother
    I thought of you and closed my eyes
    And prayed to God today
    I asked, "What makes a Mother?"
    And I know I heard him say
    A Mother has a baby
    This we know is true
    But, God, can you be a mother
    When your baby's not with you?

    Yes, you can he replied
    With confidence in his voice
    I give many women babies
    When they leave it is not their choice
    Some I send for a lifetime
    And others for the day
    And some I send to feel your womb
    But there's no need to stay.

    I just don't understand this God
    I want my baby here

    He took a breath
    and cleared his throat
    And then I saw a tear
    I wish I could show you
    What your child is doing Here

    If you could see your child smile
    With other children and say
    "We go to earth to learn our lessons
    of love and life and fear,
    but My mommy loved me so much
    I got to come straight here!"
    I feel so lucky to have a Mom who
    had so much love for me
    I learned my lessons very quickly
    My Mommy set me free.
    I miss my Mommy oh so much
    But I visit her each day
    When she goes to sleep
    On her pillow is where I lay
    I stroke her hair and kiss her cheek
    And whisper in her ear
    "Mommy, Please don't be sad today
    I'm your baby and I am here"

    So you see my dear sweet one
    Your children are okay
    Your babies are here in My home
    And this is where they'll stay
    They'll wait for you with Me
    Until your lessons there are through
    And on the day that you come home
    they'll be at the gates waiting for you

    So now you see
    What makes a Mother
    It's the feeling in your heart
    It's the love you had so much of
    Right from the very start
    ~Author Unknown

     

    TTC since 10/09 Me-43 DH-44 RE and testing 10/10-11/10, Recommending IVF 1/11 New RE AMA and DOR-DH low motility IVF #1.1 cancelled 3/11 due to poor response IVF #1.2 May 2011, one perfect 8-cell embryo, 3dt-BFN, IVF #2.1 Converted to IUI d/t poor response. New RE 9/2011. IVF 2.2 completed using HGH,EPP,DHEA, Q-10 and accupuncture. Transferred one 8-cell, grade one embryo on 10/19. BFP 10/31/11 Chemical pregancy on 11/2/11. Started stims for IVF #3, our final try, on 12-2-11. ET on 12/18. Transferred 3 Grade A embryos-BFFN Planning DE IVF, late March/early April- Donors ER expected to be 4/2-4/4. PAIF/SAIF welcome
  • Dear Karen and Mark,

     There are no words, but the poet and minister John Donne had a few back in the 17th century:

    "No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main; if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friend's or of thine own were; any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee" (Meditation XVII)

    In other words, though your burden is the hardest of all, we all share in your loss, as it is also our own, as we are all connected to one another. My thoughts are with you. 

    me - 41 (dx: DOR); DH - 53 (no problems); 7/18/09 - married!; 8/4/09 - BFP on first (real)try; 9/14/09 - missed m/c; 9/15/09 - d&c; 11/09 - 3/10 - 4 natural cycles = BFN; 4/10 - dx hyperthyroidism caused by Graves' disease; 6/10 - thyroidectomy; 7/10 - 12/10 - 1 natural and 5 medicated IUI cycles = BFN; 1/11 - new RE; dx low ovarian reserve (AMH .42; 1/26/11 -- BFP (ectopic) from IUI #6; methotrexate 2/10/11; 6/2/11 - IVF #1 = BFN; 9/12/11 - prescreening for DE; 9/15/11 - IUI #7 (unmedicated)= BFN; 11/8 - begin DE cycle (shared risk program); 12/5 - ER (5 eggs/4 mature/3 fertilized/2 left by day 5) 12/10 - ET of one 1BB blast (expanded, "fair" quality), none to freeze; 12/22 - totally shocked by +hpt; beta #1 = 413; #2 = 3952 2/14 - CVS reveals a healthy baby girl! EDD: 8/27/12 DD born 8/31/12, 10 lbs 10 oz and perfect in every way. 
  • Karen and Mark,

    I am so sorry for the loss of your precious baby boy, Sean. I think of you often and am glad to know that you are surrounding yourselves with love and comfort and this most difficult time.

    I will be lighting a candle in honor of Sean at mass on Sunday - 11:30am St. Francis of Assisi.

    Please feel free to email me if you want to talk or if you need anything, when you are up to it.

    Much love and prayers to your family.  You have my deepest sympathy.  Rachel

     

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  • Karen and Mark,

    I lack the ability to eloquently express my sympathies. But, I wanted you to know that I have prayed for you and your precious son, and hope that you find comfort in each other and peace in your hearts.

    TTC #1 since June 2010
    Me: 36, DH: 42
    Dx: DOR and MFI

    DH: low count + very low motility; hormones all normal; Sperm DNA Frag. test = poor to fair; male karyotyping normal
    Me: FSH 13.4 + AMH 0.26 + hypothyroidism; Scratch the hypothyrodism (?); Blood clotting and immune panel all negative; endometrial biopsy normal

    IVF #1 (MDLF - Jul/Aug 2011): BFN (9R, 5M, 3F with ICSI, 3dt of 1 10-cell grade 2, no frosties)
    IVF #2 (EP-antagonist - Sep/Oct 2011): BFN (6R, 4M, 3F w/ ICSI, 3dt of 1 6-cell, 1 7-cell, grade 4s, no frosties)
    DE IVF #1 (shared cycle - June 2012): c/p (6R, 6F w/ICSI, 3dt 1 8-cell grade A- and 1 7-cell grade A-; no frosties)
    DE IVF #2 (shared cycle with new donor - Nov/Dec/ 2012): - BFP!!!!! 12/14/12. U/S on 12/27 shows twins!!!!!

    SAIFW/PAIFW
  • Sweet Karen,  

    Not a day has gone by this week that you have not been on my mind.  I know your baby Sean will forever be your guardian angel. He is filled with light and peace and knows no pain.  I wish I had magic words that would help you heal but all I can tell you is how truly sorry I am and how I will continue to pray that you and Mark find peace.  

    IVF#1 May 2011 15 Eggs Retrieved, 11 Fertilized using ICSI + HPT on 6/9/11 Beta #1 420 Beta #2 2167 US 7/1 TWINS!! Due 2/18/2012 Brooke and Nora born at 35.6 weeks Jan 20th 2012
  • Karen and Mark,

    I can think of no words to comfort you during this time.  Just know that you and your precious Sean have been in my thoughts, and I wish you whatever comfort you can get at this time.

    Robin 

  • Oh Karen.

    I haven't been on The Bump in months, and something drew me here last week. I was beyond sad to  learn of the loss of your precious Sean.

    Life can be so freaking unfair. You are a lovely, lovely person who deserves every good thing. I hope that you find some small comfort in the amazing words expressed by the ladies here.

    Know that he will not be forgotten. Much love, and many hugs, to you.

    xoxoxox

    Cat 

  • dear Karen

    I am so deeply sorry for your loss.  I feel like you and I shared so much during our pregnancies that I feel so close to you.  There hasn't been a moment since you posted the news of your loss that I haven't thought of you and felt torn apart for your loss of your precious baby boy.  It is not fair that this happened. Its simply not fair.  I hurt inside for you and sean and I will think of him everyday as my daughter grows up.  If I could take this away for you  I would.  I hope to get to stay close to you, but I will understand if that is not what is best for you.  I wish you and Mark lots of love and comfort and peace, and I will be praying for you and all of your family.

    xoxoxoxo

    Jess

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  • Dear Karen and Mark,

    I wish I had the right words to give you comfort and ease your pain, but I do not. You are always in our thoughts and our prayers, and not a day goes by that we have not thought of Sean.  One day, you will see your precious Sean again and be reunited for eternity.  I pray that your wounds and hearts heal and you find comfort and peace.

    With deepest sympathy,

    Sheila 

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    Karen,

    Words cannot express how unfair this is. My heart aches for you and your family.  I wish there was something to say other than I'm sorry. You have been through so much and deserve so much better. Take care of yourself and know that you have so many people that care from afar.

    April 

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  • Dear Karen,

    I think of you and your family each day and pray that you might know God's healing presence during this unthinkably difficult time.

    It is my hope that you are able to take time to remember sweet Sean and the joy that he brought you while you were together.  As you make your way forward, I hope that you can be calm in your soul and listen to what your grief needs from you along the way. 

    May the peace that passes all understanding be with you and Mark.

    Sending my love and care to you across the miles,

    Emily

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  • Karen, I think of you and your sweet baby boy often.  I am so sorry for your great loss and hope that the love of your friends and family give you strength to carry you through in your time of grief.  I thought I would share this poem...you are in my thoughts and prayers.   Lori 

    I never got to hear you laugh
    you never saw me cry
    didnt get a chance to say "Hello"
    you never said "Goodbye"
    I didn't think that I could feel
    so sad, lost and forlorn.
    I never knew God chose his Angels
    before some of them were born.
    Your life was short yet special
    I shared it all exclusively
    I felt you breathe, I felt you kick.
    You were alive inside of me.
    Every baby is an Angel
    and every angel is divine
    God needed one in heaven
    He came down and took mine
    And although we are not together
    we're not really apart
    for you'll always occupy a space
    deep within my heart.
    Time has begun to ease my pain
    It's only some days now I cry.
    When I wish I could have said "Hello"
    and heard you say "Goodbye"
    ~Author Unknown

     
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  • Karen and Mark -

    No one should have to endure the loss of a child. My heart aches for you as I know your pain well. Be there for one another as no one else can understand how you feel. This song makes me cry every time I hear it but it also brings me great comfort because it says what I could never put into words. Hugs to you and your family. I pray that time helps you heal.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTdqdOC2DtI

    Karen

    =BFP#1 11/2009, It's a boy! 3/2010, Our Angel Ian born sleeping 7/3/2010 (cord accident 37w5d); BFP#2 1/2011, mmc confirmed 2/24/2011, incomplete natural mc so had D&C 3/11/2011; BFP#3 6/19/2011, natural mc 6/21/2011; BFP#4 7/15/2011, no hb at 7w5d, D&C 9/7/2011; BFP#5 2/6/2012, baby boy born on 9/27/2012 Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker Lilypie Angel and Memorial tickers imageimageimage
  • My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family now and in the future.  I hope the thoughts of so many people bring some measure of comfort to you and Mark.  Words seem insufficient to express my sympathies but will have to do.
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  • Karen, I don't "know" you because I started posting on TTC 35+ after you graduated, but I lost my son when he was 22 months old so I thought it might help you to hear from someone who has been through something similar. I remember people promising me that it will get better; that it won't always feel this way; that someday you will be able to think of your son and smile. I wanted to punch people when they told me this, but it turns out they were right. 

    For right now, I hope that you will let people take care of you - whether it's friends, family, professionals or your community. If you are not up to it ask someone to gather resources for you. I discovered a whole community of caregivers in my town who focus on infant and child loss, from massage to therapists and counselors to acupuncturists and other kinds of healer-types. (Your local NICU may be a place to start.) Let people bring you dinner, pay your bills, clean your house. Get a prescription to help you sleep. Do whatever you need to bring comfort, even if it is fleeting. 

    It has been nearly two years for me and the pain is still at times debilitating. But grief can be a transformative process and my life and my relationships have been enriched beyond anything I could have imagined by this experience. It sounds so cheesy but I experience everything so much more intensely now - whether it's sadness or joy. You will be surprised by the positive things that will come out of this, and while it can't give you back what you have lost, it can help. I like to think of it as my son's gift to me.

    I hope that you are surrounded by love and comfort right now. I will continue to hold you, Mark and Sean in my heart and hope for better days ahead. Please feel free to PM me any time. I have lots of resources on grief and bereavement that I am happy to share. Right now, it's just about putting one foot in front of the other. 

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  • Karen, Ii have 'known' you for a couple years now and I feel like we are old friends. I wish I could take all the pain you are feeling and lock it up amd throw away the key. I.hate that this happen to Sean, you and Mark. Ugh....I keep typing things out but they seem so unimportant and stupid considering. i just want you to know that I think about you all the time.
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  • Oh Karen, I am so sorry. I too was lurking and saw this. I can not express how sad I am for you and Mark. Please know that you are in my thoughts and I hope that you guys can eventually find some peace. M
    1 ectopic 3 m/c's prior to 5/05 Un-freaking-explained IF 5/05 IVF, BFN 9/05 FET 3d5e, BFP = Beautiful Baby Girl (lucky pg #5) 8/08 Fet 3d5e, cp 12/08 IVF with PGD, transfer 3, BFN 5/09 FET transfer 4, BFN Hail Mary IUI with Follistim 9/11 BFP; 9/22 confirmed tubal/MTX 4/10 FET 3d5e, BFP!!!! m/c 5/26/10 1 year break and yet another m/c 5/11 FET #5 initial beat 121, second beta 7 Lap and removal of L tube and very mild endo 7/11 Suprise BFP 12/11 & m/c @ 8 wks. After 11 losses and one beautiful miracle our journey is over, we are thankful and at peace.
  • Karen,

    I don't "know" you and am really late to this, but in case you are still checking in I just wanted to tell you that I think of you and your Sean often. I am so very sorry for your loss. There really are no words.  You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers.

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