There is a post on PAIF that I want to go batsh!tcrazy on...

Mrs.McIrish

Any guesses?  I hope the PAIF girls rip her a new one... I can't handle this today.

Anasara

I'm praying to God above it's MUD.

MandaS08

Are we talking about the pregnant chick with an 8 month old son?  Ah, to be so lucky.

Mrs.McIrish

MandaS08:

Are we talking about the pregnant chick with an 8 month old son?  Ah, to be so lucky.

Exactly!

SweetDahlia

I just saw that, was looking for an update from someone else. OMG it took everything I had to not tell her what a stupid b!tch she is. UGH. I hate people. Between that at the OMG it's twins posts, when they were fully aware they put 2 embies back. It just kills me. I totally want to post I will take the baby.

mtlaurel

What is up over there that no one has pounced on her?! Obnoxious.

crt0323

Mrs.McIrish:

Any guesses?  I hope the PAIF girls rip her a new one... I can't handle this today.

 I'm butting in from the IF board.....she is nuts. I wonder if it would be okay if I butted in of there and ripped her a new one?!

Aegis2005

I'm contemplating a response, but my mind is all over the place this morning, and I'm not sure it will come out right.

Mayan2011

Sometimes I wish virtual throat punches were real.

Mrs.McIrish

Mayan2011:

Sometimes I wish virtual throat punches were real.

Thanks for your post over there (and Aegis too!!)

Mrs.McIrish

This is probably flameworthy but those defending her did 1 "perfect" IVF or go KU on an IUI.  Hardly IF imo....  Of course they aren't horrified by this poster...

MandaS08

Mrs.McIrish:

This is probably flameworthy but those defending her did 1 "perfect" IVF or go KU on an IUI.  Hardly IF imo....  Of course they aren't horrified by this poster...

I don't think its flameworthy-you (and me) just have a very different perspective!

amethystgrrl

MandaS08:

Mrs.McIrish:

This is probably flameworthy but those defending her did 1 "perfect" IVF or go KU on an IUI.  Hardly IF imo....  Of course they aren't horrified by this poster...

I don't think its flameworthy-you (and me) just have a very different perspective!

 I was thinking the same thing.... very different perspectives. And that's why I'm grateful for IFV. 

GypsyEsq

amethystgrrl:

MandaS08:

Mrs.McIrish:

This is probably flameworthy but those defending her did 1 "perfect" IVF or go KU on an IUI.  Hardly IF imo....  Of course they aren't horrified by this poster...

I don't think its flameworthy-you (and me) just have a very different perspective!

 I was thinking the same thing.... very different perspectives. And that's why I'm grateful for IFV. 

Im defending her. And it's fine if you think I'm not IF. I know my Dx. And my loss history. And moreover know that shes not the first IFer with a surprise pregnancy to feel that way. She may be a lying liar who lies for fun. But she may also be telling the truth and there's really nothing she's saying that makes me side eye her. This current pregnancy of mine was very much wanted. But when we first found out it was triplets we were terrified. And yes, money was a huge concern. And then we got used to the idea. And then I had a second tri loss and am still carrying my baby c until I deliver. I felt like *** that I'd ever had those feelings of not wholly and completely wanting this pregnancy. But they were still feelings I had and I'm thankful I had these boards to talk them out since no one IRL really understood. 

mystic_J

Mrs.McIrish:

This is probably flameworthy but those defending her did 1 "perfect" IVF or go KU on an IUI.  Hardly IF imo....  Of course they aren't horrified by this poster...

***butting in****

I may fall in the 1 time IVF category, but that post makes me freaking sick too! I find it disappointing how much BS similar to this situation has been sliding by on PAIF lately. 

***butting out*** 

lynn0926

Mayan2011:

Sometimes I wish virtual throat punches were real.

This exactly! 

Mrs.McIrish

jme515:

Mrs.McIrish:

This is probably flameworthy but those defending her did 1 "perfect" IVF or go KU on an IUI.  Hardly IF imo....  Of course they aren't horrified by this poster...

***butting in****

I may fall in the 1 time IVF category, but that post makes me freaking sick too! I find it disappointing how much BS similar to this situation has been sliding by on PAIF lately. 

***butting out*** 

Thanks for your posts and for telling her to go away!!!

Mrs.McIrish

GypsyEsq:

amethystgrrl:

MandaS08:

Mrs.McIrish:

This is probably flameworthy but those defending her did 1 "perfect" IVF or go KU on an IUI.  Hardly IF imo....  Of course they aren't horrified by this poster...

I don't think its flameworthy-you (and me) just have a very different perspective!

 I was thinking the same thing.... very different perspectives. And that's why I'm grateful for IFV. 

Im defending her. And it's fine if you think I'm not IF. I know my Dx. And my loss history. And moreover know that shes not the first IFer with a surprise pregnancy to feel that way. She may be a lying liar who lies for fun. But she may also be telling the truth and there's really nothing she's saying that makes me side eye her. This current pregnancy of mine was very much wanted. But when we first found out it was triplets we were terrified. And yes, money was a huge concern. And then we got used to the idea. And then I had a second tri loss and am still carrying my baby c until I deliver. I felt like *** that I'd ever had those feelings of not wholly and completely wanting this pregnancy. But they were still feelings I had and I'm thankful I had these boards to talk them out since no one IRL really understood. 

You may have noticed that I did not post anything on your board because I don't belong over there. No need for you to come over here.

dancinaggie

Mrs.McIrish:

This is probably flameworthy but those defending her did 1 "perfect" IVF or go KU on an IUI.  Hardly IF imo....  Of course they aren't horrified by this poster...

Thank you!  No flames here.  

Aegis2005

Mayan2011:

Sometimes I wish virtual throat punches were real.

GypsyEsq

Mrs.McIrish:

GypsyEsq:

amethystgrrl:

MandaS08:

Mrs.McIrish:

This is probably flameworthy but those defending her did 1 "perfect" IVF or go KU on an IUI.  Hardly IF imo....  Of course they aren't horrified by this poster...

I don't think its flameworthy-you (and me) just have a very different perspective!

 I was thinking the same thing.... very different perspectives. And that's why I'm grateful for IFV. 

Im defending her. And it's fine if you think I'm not IF. I know my Dx. And my loss history. And moreover know that shes not the first IFer with a surprise pregnancy to feel that way. She may be a lying liar who lies for fun. But she may also be telling the truth and there's really nothing she's saying that makes me side eye her. This current pregnancy of mine was very much wanted. But when we first found out it was triplets we were terrified. And yes, money was a huge concern. And then we got used to the idea. And then I had a second tri loss and am still carrying my baby c until I deliver. I felt like *** that I'd ever had those feelings of not wholly and completely wanting this pregnancy. But they were still feelings I had and I'm thankful I had these boards to talk them out since no one IRL really understood. 

You may have noticed that I did not post anything on your board because I don't belong over there. No need for you to come over here.

 

Ive supported many of you, in fact maybe even you during your struggles.  And note your siggy says PAIF/SAIF welcome. But duly noted. 

BAKERMOMHDS

amethystgrrl:

MandaS08:

Mrs.McIrish:

This is probably flameworthy but those defending her did 1 "perfect" IVF or go KU on an IUI.  Hardly IF imo....  Of course they aren't horrified by this poster...

I don't think its flameworthy-you (and me) just have a very different perspective!

 I was thinking the same thing.... very different perspectives. And that's why I'm grateful for IFV. 

This EXACTLY.. I have struggled with TB boards lately, I sit here at my desk and have a pity party for one everyday reading all the success stories !!! I should stop lurking and stick to TTC after 35 and IFV....

mystic_J

GypsyEsq:

Mrs.McIrish:

GypsyEsq:

amethystgrrl:

MandaS08:

Mrs.McIrish:

This is probably flameworthy but those defending her did 1 "perfect" IVF or go KU on an IUI.  Hardly IF imo....  Of course they aren't horrified by this poster...

I don't think its flameworthy-you (and me) just have a very different perspective!

 I was thinking the same thing.... very different perspectives. And that's why I'm grateful for IFV. 

Im defending her. And it's fine if you think I'm not IF. I know my Dx. And my loss history. And moreover know that shes not the first IFer with a surprise pregnancy to feel that way. She may be a lying liar who lies for fun. But she may also be telling the truth and there's really nothing she's saying that makes me side eye her. This current pregnancy of mine was very much wanted. But when we first found out it was triplets we were terrified. And yes, money was a huge concern. And then we got used to the idea. And then I had a second tri loss and am still carrying my baby c until I deliver. I felt like *** that I'd ever had those feelings of not wholly and completely wanting this pregnancy. But they were still feelings I had and I'm thankful I had these boards to talk them out since no one IRL really understood. 

You may have noticed that I did not post anything on your board because I don't belong over there. No need for you to come over here.

 

Ive supported many of you, in fact maybe even you during your struggles.  And note your siggy says PAIF/SAIF welcome. But duly noted. 

McIrish and everyone on IVF is entitled to their own opinion here- this is a board created for them. Anyone who lurks over here at all knows this is their safe haven! She didn't come to your board shoving her opinion down your throat, which is exactly what you are doing to her by coming over here and reiterating what you already said on the board you do belong on. Furthermore, PAIF/SAIF IMO applies to people in that category who are lending support, not continuing a disagreement from another board on IFV, which has the right to react to that ridiculous PAIF post any way they want!! 

GypsyEsq

jme515:

GypsyEsq:

Mrs.McIrish:

GypsyEsq:

amethystgrrl:

MandaS08:

Mrs.McIrish:

This is probably flameworthy but those defending her did 1 "perfect" IVF or go KU on an IUI.  Hardly IF imo....  Of course they aren't horrified by this poster...

I don't think its flameworthy-you (and me) just have a very different perspective!

 I was thinking the same thing.... very different perspectives. And that's why I'm grateful for IFV. 

Im defending her. And it's fine if you think I'm not IF. I know my Dx. And my loss history. And moreover know that shes not the first IFer with a surprise pregnancy to feel that way. She may be a lying liar who lies for fun. But she may also be telling the truth and there's really nothing she's saying that makes me side eye her. This current pregnancy of mine was very much wanted. But when we first found out it was triplets we were terrified. And yes, money was a huge concern. And then we got used to the idea. And then I had a second tri loss and am still carrying my baby c until I deliver. I felt like *** that I'd ever had those feelings of not wholly and completely wanting this pregnancy. But they were still feelings I had and I'm thankful I had these boards to talk them out since no one IRL really understood. 

You may have noticed that I did not post anything on your board because I don't belong over there. No need for you to come over here.

 

Ive supported many of you, in fact maybe even you during your struggles.  And note your siggy says PAIF/SAIF welcome. But duly noted. 

McIrish and everyone on IVF is entitled to their own opinion here- this is a board created for them. Anyone who lurks over here at all knows this is their safe haven! She didn't come to your board shoving her opinion down your throat, which is exactly what you are doing to her by coming over here and reiterating what you already said on the board you do belong on. Furthermore, PAIF/SAIF IMO applies to people in that category who are lending support, not continuing a disagreement from another board on IFV, which has the right to react to that ridiculous PAIF post any way they want!! 

 

She called me out. I'm entitled to defend myself. If you don't like it y'all know where the off button is on your Internet browser.  And IMO if you don't want people to disagree with you then you don't post your opinions on the Internet.  

Mrs.McIrish

GypsyEsq:

jme515:

GypsyEsq:

Mrs.McIrish:

GypsyEsq:

amethystgrrl:

MandaS08:

Mrs.McIrish:

This is probably flameworthy but those defending her did 1 "perfect" IVF or go KU on an IUI.  Hardly IF imo....  Of course they aren't horrified by this poster...

I don't think its flameworthy-you (and me) just have a very different perspective!

 I was thinking the same thing.... very different perspectives. And that's why I'm grateful for IFV. 

Im defending her. And it's fine if you think I'm not IF. I know my Dx. And my loss history. And moreover know that shes not the first IFer with a surprise pregnancy to feel that way. She may be a lying liar who lies for fun. But she may also be telling the truth and there's really nothing she's saying that makes me side eye her. This current pregnancy of mine was very much wanted. But when we first found out it was triplets we were terrified. And yes, money was a huge concern. And then we got used to the idea. And then I had a second tri loss and am still carrying my baby c until I deliver. I felt like *** that I'd ever had those feelings of not wholly and completely wanting this pregnancy. But they were still feelings I had and I'm thankful I had these boards to talk them out since no one IRL really understood. 

You may have noticed that I did not post anything on your board because I don't belong over there. No need for you to come over here.

 

Ive supported many of you, in fact maybe even you during your struggles.  And note your siggy says PAIF/SAIF welcome. But duly noted. 

McIrish and everyone on IVF is entitled to their own opinion here- this is a board created for them. Anyone who lurks over here at all knows this is their safe haven! She didn't come to your board shoving her opinion down your throat, which is exactly what you are doing to her by coming over here and reiterating what you already said on the board you do belong on. Furthermore, PAIF/SAIF IMO applies to people in that category who are lending support, not continuing a disagreement from another board on IFV, which has the right to react to that ridiculous PAIF post any way they want!! 

 

She called me out. I'm entitled to defend myself. If you don't like it y'all know where the off button is on your Internet browser.  And IMO if you don't want people to disagree with you then you don't post your opinions on the Internet.  

I don't even know you and I posted on MY board to other IFV. Seriously, the OP's post today REALLY set me off since she is complaining about not wanting another baby as I am about to fail my FOURTH and FINAL IVF. I am NEVER getting a baby.   As JME said, PAIF welcome does not mean come over here and yell at me.  This was a conversation for IFV girls which is something you clearly don't understand. Please just stop.

mystic_J

GypsyEsq:

jme515:

GypsyEsq:

Mrs.McIrish:

GypsyEsq:

amethystgrrl:

MandaS08:

Mrs.McIrish:

This is probably flameworthy but those defending her did 1 "perfect" IVF or go KU on an IUI.  Hardly IF imo....  Of course they aren't horrified by this poster...

I don't think its flameworthy-you (and me) just have a very different perspective!

 I was thinking the same thing.... very different perspectives. And that's why I'm grateful for IFV. 

Im defending her. And it's fine if you think I'm not IF. I know my Dx. And my loss history. And moreover know that shes not the first IFer with a surprise pregnancy to feel that way. She may be a lying liar who lies for fun. But she may also be telling the truth and there's really nothing she's saying that makes me side eye her. This current pregnancy of mine was very much wanted. But when we first found out it was triplets we were terrified. And yes, money was a huge concern. And then we got used to the idea. And then I had a second tri loss and am still carrying my baby c until I deliver. I felt like *** that I'd ever had those feelings of not wholly and completely wanting this pregnancy. But they were still feelings I had and I'm thankful I had these boards to talk them out since no one IRL really understood. 

You may have noticed that I did not post anything on your board because I don't belong over there. No need for you to come over here.

 

Ive supported many of you, in fact maybe even you during your struggles.  And note your siggy says PAIF/SAIF welcome. But duly noted. 

McIrish and everyone on IVF is entitled to their own opinion here- this is a board created for them. Anyone who lurks over here at all knows this is their safe haven! She didn't come to your board shoving her opinion down your throat, which is exactly what you are doing to her by coming over here and reiterating what you already said on the board you do belong on. Furthermore, PAIF/SAIF IMO applies to people in that category who are lending support, not continuing a disagreement from another board on IFV, which has the right to react to that ridiculous PAIF post any way they want!! 

 

She called me out. I'm entitled to defend myself. If you don't like it y'all know where the off button is on your Internet browser.  And IMO if you don't want people to disagree with you then you don't post your opinions on the Internet.  

So you thought you'd come on IFV, defend yourself and change everyone's mind on here, who clearly agree with her? Effing brilliant! 

GypsyEsq

McIrish, you're right. I should not have inserted my perspective into this. I'm sorry that this post and the one on PAIF set you off. But I do not understand the point of pain Olympics when it comes to IF. And you did say you didn't consider those supporting the OP to even be IF. Well that was me. And I answered because I am IF. Maybe not as much as you if there's some yardstick used to make that argument  but I can't conceive without medical help. Period. Undeniably thought I am not in your shoes and should not have presumed to have anything to add here. I apologize. And I hope that this IVF does work for you. Really I do. I'll happily delete my comments when I get home. 

Mrs.McIrish

GypsyEsq:

McIrish, you're right. I should not have inserted my perspective into this. I'm sorry that this post and the one on PAIF set you off. But I do not understand the point of pain Olympics when it comes to IF. And you did say you didn't consider those supporting the OP to even be IF. Well that was me. And I answered because I am IF. Maybe not as much as you if there's some yardstick used to make that argument  but I can't conceive without medical help. Period. Undeniably thought I am not in your shoes and should not have presumed to have anything to add here. I apologize. And I hope that this IVF does work for you. Really I do. I'll happily delete my comments when I get home. 

Thank you for your apology.  Unfortunately there are those of us who can't conceive even with lots of medical attention. It is a reality that some of us are "beyond IF"  which is an entirely different animal than limited treatment or treatment with ultimate sucess.  We all have our own opinion and now you know why I could not deal with the OP's post this morning. I would give my left arm for it.

eponine7682

No flames here hun! I read this on my phone earlier today and was side-eyeing the heck out of it. I couldn't wait to get back home so I could reply. Finally did but by the time I got there I think she realized how her post was coming across as insensitive so I wasn't as harsh as I originally was going to be, lol.  

vanessagorc

I'll tell u why nobody has pounced on her...half of the people over there DO NOT belong on PAIF!  We have been fighting for a board description and a mod FOREVER.

may2806

Mrs.McIrish:

GypsyEsq:

McIrish, you're right. I should not have inserted my perspective into this. I'm sorry that this post and the one on PAIF set you off. But I do not understand the point of pain Olympics when it comes to IF. And you did say you didn't consider those supporting the OP to even be IF. Well that was me. And I answered because I am IF. Maybe not as much as you if there's some yardstick used to make that argument  but I can't conceive without medical help. Period. Undeniably thought I am not in your shoes and should not have presumed to have anything to add here. I apologize. And I hope that this IVF does work for you. Really I do. I'll happily delete my comments when I get home. 

Thank you for your apology.  Unfortunately there are those of us who can't conceive even with lots of medical attention. It is a reality that some of us are "beyond IF"  which is an entirely different animal than limited treatment or treatment with ultimate sucess.  We all have our own opinion and now you know why I could not deal with the OP's post this morning. I would give my left arm for it.

 

I completely agree. I've stayed out of this thread but I just wanted to comment on the point of the IFV board - it is for people who are way past IUIs and 1 IVF, and PAIF/SAIF welcome means that people who've been on this journey too, who we know and trust, are welcome here. I've heard the 'no point to pain Olympics' argument before, and while it's not to say that those with loss/IF to any degree haven't struggled somewhat, there is a whole other categories for IF veterans, women who've struggled for YEARS and multiple failed treatments, multiple losses, and I truly believe what we have gone through just does not compare. I can't relate to regular IFers anymore, and that is because my experience is ultimately different than theirs. That's why this board was created. It is our safe haven and the place for those who "get" us and what we have been through.  

Aegis2005

vanessagorc:

I'll tell u why nobody has pounced on her...half of the people over there DO NOT belong on PAIF!  We have been fighting for a board description and a mod FOREVER.

Amen.  The "I was going to take clomid, but got a surprise BFP" is NOT PAIF - and it seems like there's quite a few people that fall into that (or similar) categories. 

blueberries8

I think that chick is totally for real and I actually do have some sympathy for people who are unexpectedly blindsided with a pregnancy and then a child who they do not feel they have the resources to support...it's a legit problem. But yowza, PAIF is not  the correct forum to vent about that, especially if you have no preexisting relationship with the community.

As far as who really belongs on IFV and on PAIF...it is a really dicey issue always bound to hurt feelings.I feel like everyone is differently equipped to deal with this hard journey...some people are in a very dark place after a relatively short treatment or loss history so I try not to judge and of course what they have experienced is objectively bad even if it is not a bona fide horror story.

On the other hand I have a visceral reaction to people telling me that they totally understand me or "know what it's like" bc of their first tri m/c or their 1 IVF...tricky.

Mayan2011

Aegis2005:

vanessagorc:

I'll tell u why nobody has pounced on her...half of the people over there DO NOT belong on PAIF!  We have been fighting for a board description and a mod FOREVER.

Amen.  The "I was going to take clomid, but got a surprise BFP" is NOT PAIF - and it seems like there's quite a few people that fall into that (or similar) categories. 

blueberries8

Aegis2005:

vanessagorc:

I'll tell u why nobody has pounced on her...half of the people over there DO NOT belong on PAIF!  We have been fighting for a board description and a mod FOREVER.

Amen.  The "I was going to take clomid, but got a surprise BFP" is NOT PAIF - and it seems like there's quite a few people that fall into that (or similar) categories. 

I actually fail to see the "surprise" element in that bfp  

vanessagorc

blueberries8:

Aegis2005:

vanessagorc:

I'll tell u why nobody has pounced on her...half of the people over there DO NOT belong on PAIF!  We have been fighting for a board description and a mod FOREVER.

Amen.  The "I was going to take clomid, but got a surprise BFP" is NOT PAIF - and it seems like there's quite a few people that fall into that (or similar) categories. 

I actually fail to see the "surprise" element in that bfp  

As do I, I call that "just getting pregnant". My dh had 13 sperm in his entire sample last Ivf.  If I show up pregnant next yr....that would be a big a$$ surprise!  

reb259

vanessagorc:

I'll tell u why nobody has pounced on her...half of the people over there DO NOT belong on PAIF!  We have been fighting for a board description and a mod FOREVER.

Mrkyrain

vanessagorc:

I'll tell u why nobody has pounced on her...half of the people over there DO NOT belong on PAIF!  We have been fighting for a board description and a mod FOREVER.

I am just seeing this but wanted to still post. This is exactly true and why I can't really make PAIF my home. I really haven't been posting much because I don't feel like I have a home anymore. I will forever be a IFV in my heart. Love you ladies.

Mrs.McIrish

The post was DD over there.. Now I look crazy:-)