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So...When you conceived..

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Re: So...When you conceived..

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  • We've been trying since November and had a loss in Jan. i was using Opks. Got a plus on a Thursday morning, made dh have sex with me before we went to work. Next day was our 2 yr anni and when ff gave crosshairs (confirmed a few days later). Didn't bd on our anniversary, did on the Sat night. Found out I was pg beforey bros wedding (and only tested in case so I'd know if I could drink). Looks like from the O date this baby is an anniversary baby. 
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  • imagekelly321:
    imageAngel0423:
    imageShayliz:

    I was in the middle of a cancelled inject/IUI cycle because I only responded with my left ovary and I do not have a left tube.

    The interesting part is that we've confirmed multiple times that I only ovulated from my left - so the egg released from my left ovary but made its way down my right fallopian tube and was fertilized and implanted. 

    The crazy interesting part was this happened to me in October. I ovulated from the right but the egg wound up in my left tube which was my ectopic and the loss of my left tube. 

    What you re describing is anatomically impossible as ovaries only release an egg into their respective Fallopian tube and these tubes being on opposing sides of your uterus do not cross paths. My guess I that your right ovary spontaneously released and egg. Either way congrats to you on your pregnancy. Sorry if that came of snarky, but it just doesn't make sense.  

    Actually, that's not true. If it were, then this: 

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdominal_pregnancy

    https://www.ajog.org/article/S0002-9378%2811%2902162-4/abstract

    wouldn't be possible. There is a small opening between the ovaries and the fallopian tubes which allows for the possibility of eggs "escaping" and going elsewhere.

     

    Improbable and impossible are not the same thing. Stranger things have happened, so it's not impossible that a left egg got in the right tube. I'm pretty sure they checked for a cyst on Shay after the fact.

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  • imagedande2129:
    imageAngel0423:
    imagekelly321:
    imageAngel0423:
    imageShayliz:

    I was in the middle of a cancelled inject/IUI cycle because I only responded with my left ovary and I do not have a left tube.

    The interesting part is that we've confirmed multiple times that I only ovulated from my left - so the egg released from my left ovary but made its way down my right fallopian tube and was fertilized and implanted. 

    The crazy interesting part was this happened to me in October. I ovulated from the right but the egg wound up in my left tube which was my ectopic and the loss of my left tube. 

    What you re describing is anatomically impossible as ovaries only release an egg into their respective Fallopian tube and these tubes being on opposing sides of your uterus do not cross paths. My guess I that your right ovary spontaneously released and egg. Either way congrats to you on your pregnancy. Sorry if that came of snarky, but it just doesn't make sense.  

    Actually, that's not true. If it were, then this: 

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdominal_pregnancy

    https://www.ajog.org/article/S0002-9378%2811%2902162-4/abstract

    wouldn't be possible. There is a small opening between the ovaries and the fallopian tubes which allows for the possibility of eggs "escaping" and going elsewhere.

    Those are both sad scenarios. Neither resulting in the eggs successfully entering the opposing Fallopian tube and leading to a successful pregnancy. If an egg gets out and transplants somewhere else that is scary, but not resulting in a normal healthy pregnancy.  

    Snap! 

    Snap?

    Anyway, you're right that neither of the situations I linked to lead to a healthy pregnancy because it's talking about implantation outside of the uterus. What I was pointing out was that your statement that ovaries only put out eggs to the fallopian tube on their side is incorrect. Eggs can stray to lots of strange places in the abdominal cavity - the spleen, the liver, etc, so I don't understand why it's less likely that one would find its way to the other fallopian tube. Shay's first implanted in her tube, so that wasn't a healthy pregnancy, either. She's been on pretty close monitoring for her cycles, so the fact that only the follicles on the left side were developing and none on the right seem to indicate that that's the side she ovulated on. Can you link studies that show spontaneous ovulation from undeveloped follicles leading to a healthy pregnancy that you're claiming is more likely?

    Edit ::whispers:: Thanks, Chancie, I was starting to feel a little alone over here!


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  • imageAngel0423:
    imagekelly321:
    imageAngel0423:
    imageShayliz:

    I was in the middle of a cancelled inject/IUI cycle because I only responded with my left ovary and I do not have a left tube.

    The interesting part is that we've confirmed multiple times that I only ovulated from my left - so the egg released from my left ovary but made its way down my right fallopian tube and was fertilized and implanted. 

    The crazy interesting part was this happened to me in October. I ovulated from the right but the egg wound up in my left tube which was my ectopic and the loss of my left tube. 

    What you re describing is anatomically impossible as ovaries only release an egg into their respective Fallopian tube and these tubes being on opposing sides of your uterus do not cross paths. My guess I that your right ovary spontaneously released and egg. Either way congrats to you on your pregnancy. Sorry if that came of snarky, but it just doesn't make sense.  

    Actually, that's not true. If it were, then this: 

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdominal_pregnancy

    https://www.ajog.org/article/S0002-9378%2811%2902162-4/abstract

    wouldn't be possible. There is a small opening between the ovaries and the fallopian tubes which allows for the possibility of eggs "escaping" and going elsewhere.

    Those are both sad scenarios. Neither resulting in the eggs successfully entering the opposing Fallopian tube and leading to a successful pregnancy. If an egg gets out and transplants somewhere else that is scary, but not resulting in a normal healthy pregnancy.  

    Do you mind me asking what you do for a living?  You seems so all-knowing.

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  • imagethekikimonster:
    imageAngel0423:
    imagekelly321:
    imageAngel0423:
    imageShayliz:

    I was in the middle of a cancelled inject/IUI cycle because I only responded with my left ovary and I do not have a left tube.

    The interesting part is that we've confirmed multiple times that I only ovulated from my left - so the egg released from my left ovary but made its way down my right fallopian tube and was fertilized and implanted. 

    The crazy interesting part was this happened to me in October. I ovulated from the right but the egg wound up in my left tube which was my ectopic and the loss of my left tube. 

    What you re describing is anatomically impossible as ovaries only release an egg into their respective Fallopian tube and these tubes being on opposing sides of your uterus do not cross paths. My guess I that your right ovary spontaneously released and egg. Either way congrats to you on your pregnancy. Sorry if that came of snarky, but it just doesn't make sense.  

    Actually, that's not true. If it were, then this: 

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdominal_pregnancy

    https://www.ajog.org/article/S0002-9378%2811%2902162-4/abstract

    wouldn't be possible. There is a small opening between the ovaries and the fallopian tubes which allows for the possibility of eggs "escaping" and going elsewhere.

    Those are both sad scenarios. Neither resulting in the eggs successfully entering the opposing Fallopian tube and leading to a successful pregnancy. If an egg gets out and transplants somewhere else that is scary, but not resulting in a normal healthy pregnancy.  

    Good thing you are here to question what Shay's doctors and medical science have already proved possible. You are a moron.

    While shays doctor informed her that her opposing ovary was not ovulating at that time did he actually state that her egg migrated through the fat and tissue in her pelvic cavity and entered her opposing tube to successfully implant. I'd like to  know. I take it that her explanation is her assumption as she knows her left Fallopian tube is absent/ not functional. It is far more likely that she spontaneously ovulated on the right. But whatever makes your world turn!

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    imageTheAnne:
    imageTheOtherHole:
    imageAngel0423:
    imagekelly321:
    imageAngel0423:
    imageShayliz:

    I was in the middle of a cancelled inject/IUI cycle because I only responded with my left ovary and I do not have a left tube.

    The interesting part is that we've confirmed multiple times that I only ovulated from my left - so the egg released from my left ovary but made its way down my right fallopian tube and was fertilized and implanted. 

    The crazy interesting part was this happened to me in October. I ovulated from the right but the egg wound up in my left tube which was my ectopic and the loss of my left tube. 

    What you re describing is anatomically impossible as ovaries only release an egg into their respective Fallopian tube and these tubes being on opposing sides of your uterus do not cross paths. My guess I that your right ovary spontaneously released and egg. Either way congrats to you on your pregnancy. Sorry if that came of snarky, but it just doesn't make sense.  

    Actually, that's not true. If it were, then this: 

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdominal_pregnancy

    https://www.ajog.org/article/S0002-9378%2811%2902162-4/abstract

    wouldn't be possible. There is a small opening between the ovaries and the fallopian tubes which allows for the possibility of eggs "escaping" and going elsewhere.

    Those are both sad scenarios. Neither resulting in the eggs successfully entering the opposing Fallopian tube and leading to a successful pregnancy. If an egg gets out and transplants somewhere else that is scary, but not resulting in a normal healthy pregnancy.  

    Do you mind me asking what you do for a living?  You seems so all-knowing.

    I am chosing not to edit down this quote to be as equally annoying as the arguments that being made that this didn't happen.

    You do realize that doctors CAN tell which ovary is the one that ovulated after the fact, right?  It's not just a guess or assumption.  So if they KNOW which ovary released the egg and they KNOW that one tube does not exist, then the egg had to have gone through the other tube or else there would be no baby growing in her uterus right now, which there is.

     

    All of this... and
    to quote your original reply : "not to be snarky..." but, based on your intense commitment to sticking to your original urge to disprove Shay's situation, I have to ask, how many ovaries you've had the experience of monitoring through their complete cycles?

    Both Shay, and her doctors, realize the incredible unlikelihood of this to occur, but that does not mean that it did not happen.  And your opinion that it is impossible doesn't make it so. 



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  • We were NOT trying! It was 3 months after our wedding and we were just proving to ourselves that marriage does not equal less sex--we were getting after it 5-6 nights/days a week. And I was on bcp.

    We're excited to be parents before our first anniversary. Cheers to proving to ourselves that being married with children doesn't equal less sex! ;)

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  • It was our first month trying (didn't temp, but was paying attention to cervical mucus) and we said sex everyday for a week. It worked for us! We never thought it would happen so fast. We feel very blessed.
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  • imageAngel0423:

    While shays doctor informed her that her opposing ovary was not ovulating at that time did he actually state that her egg migrated through the fat and tissue in her pelvic cavity and entered her opposing tube to successfully implant. I'd like to  know. I take it that her explanation is her assumption as she knows her left Fallopian tube is absent/ not functional. It is far more likely that she spontaneously ovulated on the right. But whatever makes your world turn!

     

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    You clearly have no idea what's going on here and are just talking out of your a$$. You look like a total idiot, but whatever makes your world turn!Indifferent


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  • imageMSUMamaof2:
    I threw my back out a month ago and was laid up for a week.  Needless to say, we weren't tearing down our house having sex.  I always ovulate on cycle day 15 and did again this cycle.  DH and I only had sex this month on cycle day 21 and I got pregnant. I must have O'ed twice this month.  We didn't use anything, so that's our fault, I guess!  I was also in the process of scheduling a surgery date for bariatric surgery, so double shocker.  We're rolling with it, though.  This will be our third and last baby, so I'm just trying to soak up all the pregnancy fun.  

    You do know you only ovulate once in a cycle right? Pretty sure you don't always O on CD15.  

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  • imageTheAnne:

    I am chosing not to edit down this quote to be as equally annoying as the arguments that being made that this didn't happen.

    You do realize that doctors CAN tell which ovary is the one that ovulated after the fact, right?  It's not just a guess or assumption.  So if they KNOW which ovary released the egg and they KNOW that one tube does not exist, then the egg had to have gone through the other tube or else there would be no baby growing in her uterus right now, which there is.

    I knew I was forgetting something important in my arguments :-) 

    And as others have said, Angel, it's not that we don't realize it's highly improbable. That's why everyone is saying it's such an amazing story to have lost a tube, ovulated on the side of the lost tube and therefore had the cycle cancelled, only to end up getting pregnant. But if the doctors were monitoring which side the follicles were developing and then they found the corpus luteum there after she realized she was pregnant, I don't really see what there is to debate.


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  • DH just returned from deployment and we went home to spend time with our families. I had just quit taking the pill, had my normal period. We stayed in a hotel on our way back home and well....the rest is history. We were just playing the "see what happens" game. Honestly, we did NOT expect it to happen so soon.
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    imageMSUMamaof2:
    I threw my back out a month ago and was laid up for a week.  Needless to say, we weren't tearing down our house having sex.  I always ovulate on cycle day 15 and did again this cycle.  DH and I only had sex this month on cycle day 21 and I got pregnant. I must have O'ed twice this month.  We didn't use anything, so that's our fault, I guess!  I was also in the process of scheduling a surgery date for bariatric surgery, so double shocker.  We're rolling with it, though.  This will be our third and last baby, so I'm just trying to soak up all the pregnancy fun.  

    You do know you only ovulate once in a cycle right? Pretty sure you don't always O on CD15.  

    You actually can ovulate twice in one month, hence fraternal twins.  And you are right - not every woman ovulates every month on CD15 - but, I think MSUMama was referring to herself.  Most women don't ovulate on the same day every month, but some do. 

    My BFP was our 4th month TTC.  No funny story!  I'm excited though because my EDD is only 9 days before DD's 2nd birthday, so their birthdays will be very close.

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  • I was on the pill for 5 years, I went off in April due to a long cycle of antibiotics (against malaria since I was in Haiti) - we used protection until mid may (also due to antibiotics) but decided to TTC after the meds were out of my system. I completely expected it to take 6-12 months... but I only managed one AF between the pill and my BFP.

    So depending on whether I ovulated at 14 or 21 days (last cycle - first normal was 35 days) We either conceived on a weekend when we went up north and had TONS of stress... or a relaxing weekend with some birthday parties and fun times... It's hard to tell because I am not positive when I O'd... (my temps were a bit jumpy)

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  • My circumstances: I was on the birth control pill. So that was a shock. I definitely wasn't trying. I didn't tell my boyfriend for 2 weeks because I was terrified of how he would react (I was pregnant once before and the father reacted very badly, and I terminated the pregnancy). Luckily he was really excited, and I don't know why I was so surprised. Where were we? My boyfriend's apartment.
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  • Sorry, had to get back to work so I couldn't get back to this. I see that I am the big bad wolf right now, and that's fine. But I'm just not the type of person to let someone walk around with a booger hanging from their nose or food in your teeth. What she described did not sound plausible to me and I shared my reasoning. People very commonly misunderstand medical diagnoses and I figured it's be better to have an Internet stranger correct a potential mistake than for her to be challenged by someone in real life.  Shay hasn't come back to say I'm wrong, but I guess it's nice of you guys to very strongly stick up for her. If she says that her doctor says that is how she actually conceived, then hey. Fine with me. I'm not out to hurt feelings, she's obviously pregnant no matter how it happened and I congratulated her on that. For those who asked I have a bachelors in health science, minor in anatomy, and a doctorate in physical therapy. I am not an OB, nor do I claim to be. 
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  • imageAngel0423:
    Sorry, had to get back to work so I couldn't get back to this. I see that I am the big bad wolf right now, and that's fine. But I'm just not the type of person to let someone walk around with a booger hanging from their nose or food in your teeth. What she described did not sound plausible to me and I shared my reasoning. People very commonly misunderstand medical diagnoses and I figured it's be better to have an Internet stranger correct a potential mistake than for her to be challenged by someone in real life.  Shay hasn't come back to say I'm wrong, but I guess it's nice of you guys to very strongly stick up for her. If she says that her doctor says that is how she actually conceived, then hey. Fine with me. I'm not out to hurt feelings, she's obviously pregnant no matter how it happened and I congratulated her on that. For those who asked I have a bachelors in health science, minor in anatomy, and a doctorate in physical therapy. I am not an OB, nor do I claim to be. 

    Actually, I did come back to say you are wrong. https://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/66915901.aspx 

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    imageAngel0423:
    Sorry, had to get back to work so I couldn't get back to this. I see that I am the big bad wolf right now, and that's fine. But I'm just not the type of person to let someone walk around with a booger hanging from their nose or food in your teeth. What she described did not sound plausible to me and I shared my reasoning. People very commonly misunderstand medical diagnoses and I figured it's be better to have an Internet stranger correct a potential mistake than for her to be challenged by someone in real life.  Shay hasn't come back to say I'm wrong, but I guess it's nice of you guys to very strongly stick up for her. If she says that her doctor says that is how she actually conceived, then hey. Fine with me. I'm not out to hurt feelings, she's obviously pregnant no matter how it happened and I congratulated her on that. For those who asked I have a bachelors in health science, minor in anatomy, and a doctorate in physical therapy. I am not an OB, nor do I claim to be. 

    Actually, I did come back to say you are wrong. https://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/66915901.aspx 

     

    And when I saw that I posted there too... Actually.  

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  • imageAngel0423:
    imageShayliz:

    imageAngel0423:
    Sorry, had to get back to work so I couldn't get back to this. I see that I am the big bad wolf right now, and that's fine. But I'm just not the type of person to let someone walk around with a booger hanging from their nose or food in your teeth. What she described did not sound plausible to me and I shared my reasoning. People very commonly misunderstand medical diagnoses and I figured it's be better to have an Internet stranger correct a potential mistake than for her to be challenged by someone in real life.  Shay hasn't come back to say I'm wrong, but I guess it's nice of you guys to very strongly stick up for her. If she says that her doctor says that is how she actually conceived, then hey. Fine with me. I'm not out to hurt feelings, she's obviously pregnant no matter how it happened and I congratulated her on that. For those who asked I have a bachelors in health science, minor in anatomy, and a doctorate in physical therapy. I am not an OB, nor do I claim to be. 

    Actually, I did come back to say you are wrong. https://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/66915901.aspx 

     

    And when I saw that I posted there too... Actually.  

    No one likes a know it all.  And, Actually, you sure are acting like a cvunt.

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  • imageChancieMark:
    imageAngel0423:
    imageShayliz:

    imageAngel0423:
    Sorry, had to get back to work so I couldn't get back to this. I see that I am the big bad wolf right now, and that's fine. But I'm just not the type of person to let someone walk around with a booger hanging from their nose or food in your teeth. What she described did not sound plausible to me and I shared my reasoning. People very commonly misunderstand medical diagnoses and I figured it's be better to have an Internet stranger correct a potential mistake than for her to be challenged by someone in real life.  Shay hasn't come back to say I'm wrong, but I guess it's nice of you guys to very strongly stick up for her. If she says that her doctor says that is how she actually conceived, then hey. Fine with me. I'm not out to hurt feelings, she's obviously pregnant no matter how it happened and I congratulated her on that. For those who asked I have a bachelors in health science, minor in anatomy, and a doctorate in physical therapy. I am not an OB, nor do I claim to be. 

    Actually, I did come back to say you are wrong. https://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/66915901.aspx 

     

    And when I saw that I posted there too... Actually.  

    You are really bad at this humility thing, eh? 

    No, you guys are just going to interpret anything I say at this point as b!tchy 

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  • imageAngel0423:
    imageChancieMark:
    imageAngel0423:
    imageShayliz:

    imageAngel0423:
    Sorry, had to get back to work so I couldn't get back to this. I see that I am the big bad wolf right now, and that's fine. But I'm just not the type of person to let someone walk around with a booger hanging from their nose or food in your teeth. What she described did not sound plausible to me and I shared my reasoning. People very commonly misunderstand medical diagnoses and I figured it's be better to have an Internet stranger correct a potential mistake than for her to be challenged by someone in real life.  Shay hasn't come back to say I'm wrong, but I guess it's nice of you guys to very strongly stick up for her. If she says that her doctor says that is how she actually conceived, then hey. Fine with me. I'm not out to hurt feelings, she's obviously pregnant no matter how it happened and I congratulated her on that. For those who asked I have a bachelors in health science, minor in anatomy, and a doctorate in physical therapy. I am not an OB, nor do I claim to be. 

    Actually, I did come back to say you are wrong. https://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/66915901.aspx 

     

    And when I saw that I posted there too... Actually.  

    You are really bad at this humility thing, eh? 

    No, you guys are just going to interpret anything I say at this point as b!tchy 

    No...It's you.

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    imageAngel0423:
    Sorry, had to get back to work so I couldn't get back to this. I see that I am the big bad wolf right now, and that's fine. But I'm just not the type of person to let someone walk around with a booger hanging from their nose or food in your teeth. What she described did not sound plausible to me and I shared my reasoning. People very commonly misunderstand medical diagnoses and I figured it's be better to have an Internet stranger correct a potential mistake than for her to be challenged by someone in real life.  Shay hasn't come back to say I'm wrong, but I guess it's nice of you guys to very strongly stick up for her. If she says that her doctor says that is how she actually conceived, then hey. Fine with me. I'm not out to hurt feelings, she's obviously pregnant no matter how it happened and I congratulated her on that. For those who asked I have a bachelors in health science, minor in anatomy, and a doctorate in physical therapy. I am not an OB, nor do I claim to be. 

     Improbable =/= impossible.

    Well look at you, the internet stranger who knows nothing about Shay or her situation but thinks it polite or even her duty to correct what her doctors have said.  Shay is incredibly well-versed in her own fertility, but hey, I'm sure she would NEVER want to be challenged IRL--thank goodness for ignorant internet strangers! Confused 

    You're just wrong.  Wrong.  Medical science can prove it.  You're not an OB?  Then stop trying to argue with hers (or her RE!)

     

    I get it, you all know her background from other boards. I obviously do not. Her post did not go into detail. I challenged what I thought was wrong. This is a message board full of Internet strangers. We are allowed to disagree, argue, challenge, and debate. I have apologized. I was obviously wrong about Shays situation. There is nothing left for me to say.  

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  • imageAngel0423:

    I get it, you all know her background from other boards. I obviously do not. Her post did not go into detail. I challenged what I thought was wrong. This is a message board full of Internet strangers. We are allowed to disagree, argue, challenge, and debate. I have apologized. I was obviously wrong about Shays situation. There is nothing left for me to say.  

    Actually, there is and I think it would start something like this:

    "Dear Shay,  I was wrong..."

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  • We have been trying since last August (got pg right away, but then lost that two months later and started trying again in January).

    The cycle I got pregnant this time, we had both been sick at the time that I thought I would probably ovulate, so we kept trying through that.  Then I didn't O until 9 days later.  DH was still sick, he had hand-foot-mouth that my DS had had, but again he powered through regardless, poor thing.  Basically, I did all the work, lol. 


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  • After planning all year to start trying in May, we suddenly changed our minds and decided to wait until after my job interview at the end of the month (if I took the job, it would have been impossible to take maternity leave with a May conception date). So we went to Nicaragua for vacation in the beginning of May, very early in my cycle, and ended up getting frisky every day. When we came home we used condoms again through my fertile window, and didn't decide until the end of the month that, you know what? F*** it. We want a baby and its not worth waiting for this potential job. Of course, by then it was too late for this cycle, so I thought we'd just have to wait for the next time around. So I was totally shocked when I got a BFP!! Turns out his little guys survived until I O'd later in the month, which means this baby is the product of our BDing in Nicaragua. Yay for vacation!! Oh yeah, and it turned out the the job was way underpaid and I didn't want it anyway :).
  • I know exactly when we concieved... my SO was in town for my sister's wedding in April (he's staying down south right now helping care for his mom...sweet guy). We were spending some time lounging out by the pool that night and, well... Indifferent We weren't really trying, but we weren't "not trying" if you know what I mean. We had just recently loss one pregnancy to m/c so we are feeling very very blessed (albeit somehwat nervous).
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  • imageGhostMonkey:
    imageCutieBean79:
    imageellephunt:

    imageMSUMamaof2:
    I threw my back out a month ago and was laid up for a week.  Needless to say, we weren't tearing down our house having sex.  I always ovulate on cycle day 15 and did again this cycle.  DH and I only had sex this month on cycle day 21 and I got pregnant. I must have O'ed twice this month.  We didn't use anything, so that's our fault, I guess!  I was also in the process of scheduling a surgery date for bariatric surgery, so double shocker.  We're rolling with it, though.  This will be our third and last baby, so I'm just trying to soak up all the pregnancy fun.  

    You do know you only ovulate once in a cycle right? Pretty sure you don't always O on CD15.  

    You actually can ovulate twice in one month, hence fraternal twins.  And you are right - not every woman ovulates every month on CD15 - but, I think MSUMama was referring to herself.  Most women don't ovulate on the same day every month, but some do. 

    My BFP was our 4th month TTC.  No funny story!  I'm excited though because my EDD is only 9 days before DD's 2nd birthday, so their birthdays will be very close.

    No. Those eggs are released within hours of each other, not a week apart.

    Just because she did ovulate on CD15 in prior months doesn't mean she did this month. Ovaries don't work off calendars and crappy phone apps.

    Almost always true. But there is such as thing as "superfetation" - ovulating and getting pregnant again when you're already pregnant. Extremely rare, but apparently it can happen. Not that I think that's what went on here.


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    Sorry, had to get back to work so I couldn't get back to this. I see that I am the big bad wolf right now, and that's fine. But I'm just not the type of person to let someone walk around with a booger hanging from their nose or food in your teeth. What she described did not sound plausible to me and I shared my reasoning. People very commonly misunderstand medical diagnoses and I figured it's be better to have an Internet stranger correct a potential mistake than for her to be challenged by someone in real life.  Shay hasn't come back to say I'm wrong, but I guess it's nice of you guys to very strongly stick up for her. If she says that her doctor says that is how she actually conceived, then hey. Fine with me. I'm not out to hurt feelings, she's obviously pregnant no matter how it happened and I congratulated her on that. For those who asked I have a bachelors in health science, minor in anatomy, and a doctorate in physical therapy. I am not an OB, nor do I claim to be. 

    ::dies laughing::

    This might be true if said internet stranger had the slightest clue what they are talking about.   My youngest sister can from a left ovary after my mother lost her left tube from an ectopic.  This was 28 years ago and they knew it was possible then.

    There have been numerous ladies undergoing IF treatments with one tube on these boards that have had successful healthy pregnancies from eggs on the missing tube side.


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  • We've been trying since the fall.  But the week I O'ed, I had just ended school for the year.  We definitely took advantage of being home throughout the day during my FW.  We were relaxed and it obviously helped this cycle!

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  • imageGhostMonkey:
    imageCutieBean79:
    imageellephunt:

    imageMSUMamaof2:
    I threw my back out a month ago and was laid up for a week.  Needless to say, we weren't tearing down our house having sex.  I always ovulate on cycle day 15 and did again this cycle.  DH and I only had sex this month on cycle day 21 and I got pregnant. I must have O'ed twice this month.  We didn't use anything, so that's our fault, I guess!  I was also in the process of scheduling a surgery date for bariatric surgery, so double shocker.  We're rolling with it, though.  This will be our third and last baby, so I'm just trying to soak up all the pregnancy fun.  

    You do know you only ovulate once in a cycle right? Pretty sure you don't always O on CD15.  

    You actually can ovulate twice in one month, hence fraternal twins.  And you are right - not every woman ovulates every month on CD15 - but, I think MSUMama was referring to herself.  Most women don't ovulate on the same day every month, but some do. 

    My BFP was our 4th month TTC.  No funny story!  I'm excited though because my EDD is only 9 days before DD's 2nd birthday, so their birthdays will be very close.

    No. Those eggs are released within hours of each other, not a week apart.

    Just because she did ovulate on CD15 in prior months doesn't mean she did this month. Ovaries don't work off calendars and crappy phone apps.

     

    ellephunt said ovulation only occurs once a month & I was pointing out that it can happen more than once.  So how is that incorrect? 

    I didn't say she did ovulate on CD15, I am just saying it's possible. 

    Why do you always have a battle to pick? 

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  • imageCutieBean79:

    You actually can ovulate twice in one month, hence fraternal twins.  And you are right - not every woman ovulates every month on CD15 - but, I think MSUMama was referring to herself.  Most women don't ovulate on the same day every month, but some do. 

    Umm....hmmm...You're referring to superfecundation or hyperovulation, but in general that happens as the result of a woman releasing two eggs at once, not at two separate times. The other way fraternal twins can occur is that in the rare case 2 sperm get through. 

    Other cool fact: Because I am a fraternal twin (and fraternal twins come from both sides of my family), I have a 1 in 17 chance of having twins. Fingers crossed that it skips this generation. 

    Oh, I did not wikipedia those answers - I asked my husband who is a paramedic and a respiratory therapist who has worked in the NICU and delivered multiple babies and has that knowledge/training and still has his neonatology book on our bookshelf. We looked it up in the textbook.  

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  • imageCutieBean79:
    imageGhostMonkey:
    imageCutieBean79:
    imageellephunt:

    imageMSUMamaof2:
    I threw my back out a month ago and was laid up for a week.  Needless to say, we weren't tearing down our house having sex.  I always ovulate on cycle day 15 and did again this cycle.  DH and I only had sex this month on cycle day 21 and I got pregnant. I must have O'ed twice this month.  We didn't use anything, so that's our fault, I guess!  I was also in the process of scheduling a surgery date for bariatric surgery, so double shocker.  We're rolling with it, though.  This will be our third and last baby, so I'm just trying to soak up all the pregnancy fun.  

    You do know you only ovulate once in a cycle right? Pretty sure you don't always O on CD15.  

    You actually can ovulate twice in one month, hence fraternal twins.  And you are right - not every woman ovulates every month on CD15 - but, I think MSUMama was referring to herself.  Most women don't ovulate on the same day every month, but some do. 

    My BFP was our 4th month TTC.  No funny story!  I'm excited though because my EDD is only 9 days before DD's 2nd birthday, so their birthdays will be very close.

    No. Those eggs are released within hours of each other, not a week apart.

    Just because she did ovulate on CD15 in prior months doesn't mean she did this month. Ovaries don't work off calendars and crappy phone apps.

     

    ellephunt said ovulation only occurs once a month & I was pointing out that it can happen more than once.  So how is that incorrect? 

    I didn't say she did ovulate on CD15, I am just saying it's possible. 

    Why do you always have a battle to pick? 

    Ovulation only occurs once a month.Ellephunt did not say that you can only ovulate one egg during ovulation.  A woman may ovulate multiple follicles during that ovulation, but it occurs at the same time window. You cannot ovulate on CD15 and then ovulate again CD22 or whatever. 

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  • imageShayliz:
    imageCutieBean79:
    imageGhostMonkey:
    imageCutieBean79:
    imageellephunt:

    imageMSUMamaof2:
    I threw my back out a month ago and was laid up for a week.  Needless to say, we weren't tearing down our house having sex.  I always ovulate on cycle day 15 and did again this cycle.  DH and I only had sex this month on cycle day 21 and I got pregnant. I must have O'ed twice this month.  We didn't use anything, so that's our fault, I guess!  I was also in the process of scheduling a surgery date for bariatric surgery, so double shocker.  We're rolling with it, though.  This will be our third and last baby, so I'm just trying to soak up all the pregnancy fun.  

    You do know you only ovulate once in a cycle right? Pretty sure you don't always O on CD15.  

    You actually can ovulate twice in one month, hence fraternal twins.  And you are right - not every woman ovulates every month on CD15 - but, I think MSUMama was referring to herself.  Most women don't ovulate on the same day every month, but some do. 

    My BFP was our 4th month TTC.  No funny story!  I'm excited though because my EDD is only 9 days before DD's 2nd birthday, so their birthdays will be very close.

    No. Those eggs are released within hours of each other, not a week apart.

    Just because she did ovulate on CD15 in prior months doesn't mean she did this month. Ovaries don't work off calendars and crappy phone apps.

     

    ellephunt said ovulation only occurs once a month & I was pointing out that it can happen more than once.  So how is that incorrect? 

    I didn't say she did ovulate on CD15, I am just saying it's possible. 

    Why do you always have a battle to pick? 

    Ovulation only occurs once a month.Ellephunt did not say that you can only ovulate one egg during ovulation.  A woman may ovulate multiple follicles during that ovulation, but it occurs at the same time window. You cannot ovulate on CD15 and then ovulate again CD22 or whatever. 

    Agreed.  I didn't mean to imply otherwise.

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  • imagephdwyfe2013:
    imageCutieBean79:

    You actually can ovulate twice in one month, hence fraternal twins.  And you are right - not every woman ovulates every month on CD15 - but, I think MSUMama was referring to herself.  Most women don't ovulate on the same day every month, but some do. 

    Umm....hmmm...You're referring to superfecundation or hyperovulation, but in general that happens as the result of a woman releasing two eggs at once, not at two separate times. The other way fraternal twins can occur is that in the rare case 2 sperm get through. 

    Other cool fact: Because I am a fraternal twin (and fraternal twins come from both sides of my family), I have a 1 in 17 chance of having twins. Fingers crossed that it skips this generation. 

    Oh, I did not wikipedia those answers - I asked my husband who is a paramedic and a respiratory therapist who has worked in the NICU and delivered multiple babies and has that knowledge/training and still has his neonatology book on our bookshelf. We looked it up in the textbook.  

    Yea, I didn't mean to imply that ovulation of more than one egg occurs so far apart, but I wanted to pinpoint that it is possible to release more than one egg during one cycle (albeit close together).  FX for you...carrying twins scares me!

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  • My boyfriend of 3 years was coming home to meet my parents on Dec. 29th, 2012. After a nice night out with friends, we couldn't resist each other the next morning. Not having any protection around because we said no sex in my parents house (and changed our minds), we agreed to go get Plan B and breakfast right afterwards. Not 2 hours had passed when I took Plan B on the morning of Dec 30th, 2012. Coincidentally, 2 days later I challenged myself to give up drinking until St. Patrick's Day because I was trying to lose 10 pounds I gained in the fall. I also started taking prenatal vitamins daily for the extra iron and DHA because anemia and Alzheimer's runs in my family. January 24th, I found out I was pregnant, very much to my surprise! Plan B didn't work! The fertilized egg had already implanted itself in my uterus within 2 hours!

    We were not trying and apparently are a super fertile couple, as 1 try was all it took. We believe 300% our little boy was meant to be here, just too many coincidences: Plan B failing, I gave up drinking, and was already taking a prenatal. We were ready to take the next step in our relationship and we got a next step all right. It has been a great ride so far. Only 2.5 months left!

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    Oooh these are great!

    Me?  I blame the Fifty Shades of Gray! :)

     

     

    THIS EXACTLY! And the fact that DH was going to be leaving for 5 months (only to come home on the wknds starting june 10th) So we were having a lot of sex. We knew we wanted to start trying for #2 soon, I had gone off BC in april and was shocked to find out how fast we got pregnant this time! It took 4 months with DD #1.... I'm happy either way!

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  • We conceived about a week before our wedding :) We had planned to wait until later this year to start trying for one. A week or so after the honeymoon....surprise! Missed my period and had a positive test :) I guess God knew what he was doing :))))
  • We weren't officially trying even though I was off BC. We were going to wait until the end of the summer. We had been very busy and hadn't been intimate in over a week. Our parents were in town for Father's day so we went at it on the floor since the bed it so squeaky. lol The next day I looked at my ovulation chart and realized that the day before had been the last day of ovulation for me. What are the chances... lol
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  • We were not trying.  As a matter of fact, this was the one and ONLY time in the 7 on/off years of us being together that we had completely unprotected sex.  However, as the old line goes, it only takes once. And now we are expecting a surprise baby boy that we are very excited to meet. :-)

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