Naturalblonde - Im curious, yes this is a call out!

MrsRucinski85

So I hate to be a bish and all but I was looking at prior posts and couldnt help but notice the FFFC from the other day and your post in it...


"People who don't vaccinate are just as morally reprehensible as people who delay vaccines or "make up their own schedule."
 Dec 11 moms already TTC get the side eye from me. I just want to get to know this first baby, love her, relish her early milestones, before thinking about having another.
People wanting 3+ kids also get the side eye. 
$1k on cloth diapers is not sane."

Im really curious... is there a reason why you give the side eye to these kind of people - moms of 3+ kids and those who are active TTC?
I know its flame free and this is by no means me flaming you... I guess its more of an "Im really just curious why you feel the way you do" post.


ETA: The more I think about you and your post, the more I wonder... who the heck are you? And where did you come from? I dont think Ive ever seen you post in the Dec board. Are you just trolling our board? Or are you a lurker who decided for her first post to post some stupid sh!t (yes thats my opinion) Either way I appropriately changed the subject line to read that this is a call out 

steph0501

I wondered the same when I read it, especially the 3 plus kids.  I think 3 kids is pretty normal for most families.

NoodleM

I don't get how it's anyones place to judge how many kids a family chooses to have. If they can afford it and have the love to share, why not?

And I think the investment in cloth diapers is worth it for the use you get out of them and how much you help the environment in the end.

hlc820

Somehow I missed that gem

Moozilla11

She seems to not be around very often and I almost posted something directed towards those who are against those of us TTC already and why I want a 3rd. But I figured it would be a waste of time lol.

I do wonder why she is so against it all though. 

lageorgiapaperie

I've seen her around before.

We do an alternative vaccine schedule, sorry!

 Also, what about people that have twins? How do they get to know their babies well enough?

Andplusalso, I used to want 3 kids, I think that would be a great number. But with all my complications 2 is what we're looking to have now. So, thank goodness for high risk pregnancies!

 

NaturalBlond

Yes, me and my December 2011 baby girl are trolling the December 2011 Bump board.

 It's a thread where people are supposed to post their flammable opinions, is it not? And I think that's what I did. I don't know what more to say, at least not one handed while nursing.

 (Your baby is adorable btw). 

NaturalBlond

NoodleM:

I don't get how it's anyones place to judge how many kids a family chooses to have. If they can afford it and have the love to share, why not?

And I think the investment in cloth diapers is worth it for the use you get out of them and how much you help the environment in the end.

 Erm yeah, I CD. You don't need to spend $1k. 

hisbeautyalways

NaturalBlond:

NoodleM:

I don't get how it's anyones place to judge how many kids a family chooses to have. If they can afford it and have the love to share, why not?

And I think the investment in cloth diapers is worth it for the use you get out of them and how much you help the environment in the end.

 Erm yeah, I CD. You don't need to spend $1k. 

 

You  don't have to. You don't have to spend more than $50 even. However, you spend what you want. I spent over $600 so far, and will end up buying more... especially as I plan on having 3+ kids. Probably all rather close in age, so I'll diaper more than one at a time, and apparently I won't get to know them very well in your opinion.

 Oh, and I'm delaying vax/doing an alternate schedule.

MrsT2008

NaturalBlond:

Yes, me and my December 2011 baby girl are trolling the December 2011 Bump board.

 It's a thread where people are supposed to post their flammable opinions, is it not? And I think that's what I did. I don't know what more to say, at least not one handed while nursing.

 (Your baby is adorable btw). 

The OP specifically said she wasn't flaming but was actually curious

MrsRucinski85

NaturalBlond:

Yes, me and my December 2011 baby girl are trolling the December 2011 Bump board.
It's a thread where people are supposed to post their flammable opinions, is it not? And I think that's what I did. I don't know what more to say, at least not one handed while nursing.
 (Your baby is adorable btw). 

You'er not a troll ok I guess I just havent seen you around here at all and since I basically live on this board I thought I would have at least seen your sn around here once or twice. And well lets face it, we dont get too much drama around here so I thought maybe it would be a good place for a troll to come in and start stuff...
And in my experience, people who dont have siggy pics, or tickers, or something like that usually are trolls. I know its not a requirement... just saying from my experience...


Youre right, it is to post flameable opinions, Im just wondering like why you feel that way? No offense meant here at all, just trying to figure out why you feel the way you do... Did you have a bad experience with a family with more than 3 kids? Or were you from a larger family and felt you didnt get enough attention?
Im honestly just curious how you came to your confession. Bc to me, it just seems like an odd confession. Odd like how did you come up with the number and odd as in why you feel that way.



And if that last part was address to me, thank you!

alexvause

Team Natural blonde. 

 

tosh24

I'd like to know what you know about delaying vaccines/alternate schedules, or if you're just talking out of your a$$ like you have a clue?

Almost every person I've come across that has done an alternate schedule (myself included) follows Dr. Sears' recommendations (a world-renowned pediatrician who supports an alternate vax schedule? Gasp!). The basic idea is that you split up the vaccines given at each appointment so that the child only gets a couple at a time, rather than the 3 or 4 that are usually given. So, instead of going at 2, 4, and 6 months, you go every month from 2 months until about 7 months and just get one combo vax at a time. So, both of our children are getting one combo vaccine at the same time (at 2, 4, and 6 months) but my child is getting the second combo vax on the alternate months as well (3, 5, and 7) whereas yours is getting them all at the same time.

I guess the fact that my child's vaccine schedule is delayed by a whopping 30 days compared to your child's routine schedule makes me an irresponsible parent. In the future, it would be a wise decision to actually know what you're talking about before spouting off opinions. Being educated about an issue and having an opinion on it and being able to support that opinion with facts, research, and intelligence is one thing...throwing your uneducated opinions around just makes you ignorant (and look pretty SMRT). 

KansasFarmMomma

Well damn, I guess I hit the trifecta.

I've delayed vaccinating by 30 days, I am already pregnant, we definitely want more than 3 kids, and I cloth diaper although I only spent $300 total on them(so I guess that doesn't count)

Mass-girl-at-heart

I delayed vax too, after seeing my first at 4 months old strapped to a table for a CT scan after a seizure not knowing what caused it I want to be sure this kid's vax a split up.  The good news is that I don't let internet strangers have a say in how I raise my kids.

CountingUp

We delayed too.

NaturalBlond

tosh24:

I'd like to know what you know about delaying vaccines/alternate schedules, or if you're just talking out of your a$$ like you have a clue?

Almost every person I've come across that has done an alternate schedule (myself included) follows Dr. Sears' recommendations (a world-renowned pediatrician who supports an alternate vax schedule? Gasp!). The basic idea is that you split up the vaccines given at each appointment so that the child only gets a couple at a time, rather than the 3 or 4 that are usually given. So, instead of going at 2, 4, and 6 months, you go every month from 2 months until about 7 months and just get one combo vax at a time. So, both of our children are getting one combo vaccine at the same time (at 2, 4, and 6 months) but my child is getting the second combo vax on the alternate months as well (3, 5, and 7) whereas yours is getting them all at the same time.

I guess the fact that my child's vaccine schedule is delayed by a whopping 30 days compared to your child's routine schedule makes me an irresponsible parent. In the future, it would be a wise decision to actually know what you're talking about before spouting off opinions. Being educated about an issue and having an opinion on it and being able to support that opinion with facts, research, and intelligence is one thing...throwing your uneducated opinions around just makes you ignorant (and look pretty SMRT). 

I first read this and felt mad. For like a second. Then I just felt sad for you. Not because you follow some quack and you put your child and my child at risk. I feel sad for you because you are about to look really silly.

I actually did quite a bit of research on alternative vaccination schedules when I was pregnant. Because I don't make any decision about my child's health w/out using research, science, and logic. Here's what I found:

https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/123/1/e164.full

https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/cashing-in-on-fear-the-danger-of-dr-sears/

https://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/08/delayed-vaccine-schedule-dangerous.html

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/vaccines/

https://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704113504575264421687548864.html

This was more than enough to convince me that putting my child's life in the hands of your beloved Dr. Sears was a risk I wasn't willing to take. You said it yourself. Dr. Sears is a PEDIATRICIAN. And this means he's NOT an epidemiologist. He doesn't study the spread of infectious diseases. Relying on his schedule is like going to your family doctor to get advice on what treatment you should take to cure your cancer. Furthermore, his schedule is untested and unstudied. It's just one man's thoughts placed in a book that, shocker, he's more than happy to SELL to you.

Talking out of one's ass indeed!

 

tosh24:

In the future, it would be a wise decision to actually know what you're talking about before spouting off opinions. Being educated about an issue and having an opinion on it and being able to support that opinion with facts, research, and intelligence is one thing...throwing your uneducated opinions around just makes you ignorant (and look pretty SMRT).

Touche Einstein.

NaturalBlond

MrsRucinski85:

NaturalBlond:

Yes, me and my December 2011 baby girl are trolling the December 2011 Bump board.
It's a thread where people are supposed to post their flammable opinions, is it not? And I think that's what I did. I don't know what more to say, at least not one handed while nursing.
 (Your baby is adorable btw). 

You'er not a troll ok I guess I just havent seen you around here at all and since I basically live on this board I thought I would have at least seen your sn around here once or twice. And well lets face it, we dont get too much drama around here so I thought maybe it would be a good place for a troll to come in and start stuff...
And in my experience, people who dont have siggy pics, or tickers, or something like that usually are trolls. I know its not a requirement... just saying from my experience...


Youre right, it is to post flameable opinions, Im just wondering like why you feel that way? No offense meant here at all, just trying to figure out why you feel the way you do... Did you have a bad experience with a family with more than 3 kids? Or were you from a larger family and felt you didnt get enough attention?
Im honestly just curious how you came to your confession. Bc to me, it just seems like an odd confession. Odd like how did you come up with the number and odd as in why you feel that way.



And if that last part was address to me, thank you!

Well like I said in that thread, I want to get to know my baby, celebrate her, relish in her early milestones, before bringing another child into the mix. These feelings are so fundamental to me that I find it very foreign that there are other people out there with munchkins my munchkins age that already want to be pregnant again. Didn't we just give birth? Sickness or infertility issues notwithstanding, it's bizarre.

As for the 3+ families comment. I come from a family of three girls. I loved it. But I don't know anyone who wants three kids anymore. Most cap at two. In fact, many of my friends just want one.

Whatever. I'm not queen of the bump and therefore you may do whatever you want. Go forth and multiply like bunnies.

Yes, your kid is adorbs.

tosh24

NaturalBlond:

tosh24:

I'd like to know what you know about delaying vaccines/alternate schedules, or if you're just talking out of your a$$ like you have a clue?

Almost every person I've come across that has done an alternate schedule (myself included) follows Dr. Sears' recommendations (a world-renowned pediatrician who supports an alternate vax schedule? Gasp!). The basic idea is that you split up the vaccines given at each appointment so that the child only gets a couple at a time, rather than the 3 or 4 that are usually given. So, instead of going at 2, 4, and 6 months, you go every month from 2 months until about 7 months and just get one combo vax at a time. So, both of our children are getting one combo vaccine at the same time (at 2, 4, and 6 months) but my child is getting the second combo vax on the alternate months as well (3, 5, and 7) whereas yours is getting them all at the same time.

I guess the fact that my child's vaccine schedule is delayed by a whopping 30 days compared to your child's routine schedule makes me an irresponsible parent. In the future, it would be a wise decision to actually know what you're talking about before spouting off opinions. Being educated about an issue and having an opinion on it and being able to support that opinion with facts, research, and intelligence is one thing...throwing your uneducated opinions around just makes you ignorant (and look pretty SMRT). 

I first read this and felt mad. For like a second. Then I just felt sad for you. Not because you follow some quack and you put your child and my child at risk. I feel sad for you because you are about to look really silly.

I actually did quite a bit of research on alternative vaccination schedules when I was pregnant. Because I don't make any decision about my child's health w/out using research, science, and logic. Here's what I found:

https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/123/1/e164.full

https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/cashing-in-on-fear-the-danger-of-dr-sears/

https://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/08/delayed-vaccine-schedule-dangerous.html

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/vaccines/

https://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704113504575264421687548864.html

This was more than enough to convince me that putting my child's life in the hands of your beloved Dr. Sears was a risk I wasn't willing to take. You said it yourself. Dr. Sears is a PEDIATRICIAN. And this means he's NOT an epidemiologist. He doesn't study the spread of infectious diseases. Relying on his schedule is like going to your family doctor to get advice on what treatment you should take to cure your cancer. Furthermore, his schedule is untested and unstudied. It's just one man's thoughts placed in a book that, shocker, he's more than happy to SELL to you.

Talking out of one's ass indeed!

 

tosh24:

In the future, it would be a wise decision to actually know what you're talking about before spouting off opinions. Being educated about an issue and having an opinion on it and being able to support that opinion with facts, research, and intelligence is one thing...throwing your uneducated opinions around just makes you ignorant (and look pretty SMRT).

Touche Einstein.

LOL....oh, please. Don't feel bad for me. I do not feel at all silly because the "research" you posted is a bunch of biased, alarmist articles with only one based on a legitimate peer-reviewed research paper. That one article however, states exactly this: 

 "This study suggests that delaying vaccines does not give infants any advantage in terms of brain development," Dr. Smith said. Published online Monday in the medical journal Pediatrics, the study is believed to be the first to address the issue of delayed vaccination."

1) My reasoning for delaying vaccines has nothing to do with some supposed brain development advantage

2) The study is believed to be the FIRST to address the issue of delayed vaccines.

So, what you're saying is that you based your opinion on a bunch of other "research" that in itself did not draw conclusions from good ol' scientific theory, considering there has only been one legitimate research article on the issue of delayed vaccination. Look who's brilliant now! Try handing in a position paper in university about delayed vaccination using your articles and the prof would rip you to shreds.  

Nowhere did I say that there was concrete evidence that getting all vaccines on schedule was going to do serious harm to an infant. There has been no proof that vaccinating on schedule overloads an infant's system, and there has been no proof that it doesn't (and I'm not talking about the MMR-autism link...that was debunked a long time ago and I never bought into it anyway. I don't blindly follow the outcome of single, non-replicable, research projects). Until such proof exists, I will space out the vaccines because I tend to err on the side of caution when it comes to chemical exposure (with all things, not just immunizations). As a biologist myself, I fully vaccinate and I support fully vaccinating for everyone. I think it's irresponsible not to. I hardly believe that fully vaccinating my child within 30 days of you fully vaccinating your child is putting the population at risk. I'd like you to find me some REAL research that says otherwise (not the crap you linked above).

And if you really knew what you were talking about, you would have used that attempt at wit to refer to me as, say, Wade Hampton Frost, a pioneer epidemiologist with unmistakable contribution to the study of infectious disease and public health, rather than referring to me as Einstein, a theoretical physicist. But that's alright - it is painfully obvious that you're not very science-minded, contrary to what you might believe. 

 

robynlynn83

So, because you don't know people who want 3+ kids, it gets a sideeye? Makes total sense.

robynlynn83

tosh24:

NaturalBlond:

tosh24:

I'd like to know what you know about delaying vaccines/alternate schedules, or if you're just talking out of your a$$ like you have a clue?

Almost every person I've come across that has done an alternate schedule (myself included) follows Dr. Sears' recommendations (a world-renowned pediatrician who supports an alternate vax schedule? Gasp!). The basic idea is that you split up the vaccines given at each appointment so that the child only gets a couple at a time, rather than the 3 or 4 that are usually given. So, instead of going at 2, 4, and 6 months, you go every month from 2 months until about 7 months and just get one combo vax at a time. So, both of our children are getting one combo vaccine at the same time (at 2, 4, and 6 months) but my child is getting the second combo vax on the alternate months as well (3, 5, and 7) whereas yours is getting them all at the same time.

I guess the fact that my child's vaccine schedule is delayed by a whopping 30 days compared to your child's routine schedule makes me an irresponsible parent. In the future, it would be a wise decision to actually know what you're talking about before spouting off opinions. Being educated about an issue and having an opinion on it and being able to support that opinion with facts, research, and intelligence is one thing...throwing your uneducated opinions around just makes you ignorant (and look pretty SMRT). 

I first read this and felt mad. For like a second. Then I just felt sad for you. Not because you follow some quack and you put your child and my child at risk. I feel sad for you because you are about to look really silly.

I actually did quite a bit of research on alternative vaccination schedules when I was pregnant. Because I don't make any decision about my child's health w/out using research, science, and logic. Here's what I found:

https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/123/1/e164.full

https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/cashing-in-on-fear-the-danger-of-dr-sears/

https://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/08/delayed-vaccine-schedule-dangerous.html

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/vaccines/

https://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704113504575264421687548864.html

This was more than enough to convince me that putting my child's life in the hands of your beloved Dr. Sears was a risk I wasn't willing to take. You said it yourself. Dr. Sears is a PEDIATRICIAN. And this means he's NOT an epidemiologist. He doesn't study the spread of infectious diseases. Relying on his schedule is like going to your family doctor to get advice on what treatment you should take to cure your cancer. Furthermore, his schedule is untested and unstudied. It's just one man's thoughts placed in a book that, shocker, he's more than happy to SELL to you.

Talking out of one's ass indeed!

 

tosh24:

In the future, it would be a wise decision to actually know what you're talking about before spouting off opinions. Being educated about an issue and having an opinion on it and being able to support that opinion with facts, research, and intelligence is one thing...throwing your uneducated opinions around just makes you ignorant (and look pretty SMRT).

Touche Einstein.

LOL....oh, please. Don't feel bad for me. I do not feel at all silly because the "research" you posted is a bunch of biased, alarmist articles with only one based on a legitimate peer-reviewed research paper. That one article however, states exactly this: 

 "This study suggests that delaying vaccines does not give infants any advantage in terms of brain development," Dr. Smith said. Published online Monday in the medical journal Pediatrics, the study is believed to be the first to address the issue of delayed vaccination."

1) My reasoning for delaying vaccines has nothing to do with some supposed brain development advantage

2) The study is believed to be the FIRST to address the issue of delayed vaccines.

So, what you're saying is that you based your opinion on a bunch of other "research" that in itself did not draw conclusions from good ol' scientific theory, considering there has only been one legitimate research article on the issue of delayed vaccination. Look who's brilliant now! Try handing in a position paper in university about delayed vaccination using your articles and the prof would rip you to shreds.  

Nowhere did I say that there was concrete evidence that getting all vaccines on schedule was going to do serious harm to an infant. There has been no proof that vaccinating on schedule overloads an infant's system, and there has been no proof that it doesn't (and I'm not talking about the MMR-autism link...that was debunked a long time ago and I never bought into it anyway. I don't blindly follow the outcome of single, non-replicable, research projects). Until such proof exists, I will space out the vaccines because I tend to err on the side of caution when it comes to chemical exposure (with all things, not just immunizations). As a biologist myself, I fully vaccinate and I support fully vaccinating for everyone. I think it's irresponsible not to. I hardly believe that fully vaccinating my child within 30 days of you fully vaccinating your child is putting the population at risk. I'd like you to find me some REAL research that says otherwise (not the crap you linked above).

And if you really knew what you were talking about, you would have used that attempt at wit to refer to me as, say, Wade Hampton Frost, a pioneer epidemiologist with unmistakable contribution to the study of infectious disease and public health, rather than referring to me as Einstein, a theoretical physicist. But that's alright - it is painfully obvious that you're not very science-minded, contrary to what you might believe. 

 

Tosh, for the win....

says the vaccination psycho here who thinks people like Mrs.F are nutso for pretending to have a legit reason to not vaccinate thus working against the entire concept of herd immunity and doing those around her a giant disservice...

Oh crap... wrong post.

jesselayne8

I am glad you give us infertiles a break. Maybe I am TTC now out of fear. The fear that it may take longer to conceive #2. It is what it is:)

chantico23

NaturalBlond:

Well like I said in that thread, I want to get to know my baby, celebrate her, relish in her early milestones, before bringing another child into the mix. These feelings are so fundamental to me that I find it very foreign that there are other people out there with munchkins my munchkins age that already want to be pregnant again. Didn't we just give birth? Sickness or infertility issues notwithstanding, it's bizarre.

As for the 3+ families comment. I come from a family of three girls. I loved it. But I don't know anyone who wants three kids anymore. Most cap at two. In fact, many of my friends just want one.

Whatever. I'm not queen of the bump and therefore you may do whatever you want. Go forth and multiply like bunnies.

Yes, your kid is adorbs.

 

You know what I find foreign?   Wanting less than 3 children.  I came from a family of 5 and have always wanted 3 or more kids.  This desire is so a part of my core that I actually catch myself feeling sad for people who have less than 3 children (because my first reaction is to think it must be because they can't have more), and have to remind myself that many people only want one or two.  The difference between you and me is that I do realize that people want things that are different than what I want, and I can be happy when they have what they desire.  Just because you don't understand something doesn't make it wrong.  If you want people to be surrounded by families with less than 3 kids then maybe you should move to China.

haleymay18

NaturalBlond:

Yes, me and my December 2011 baby girl are trolling the December 2011 Bump board.

 It's a thread where people are supposed to post their flammable opinions, is it not? And I think that's what I did. I don't know what more to say, at least not one handed while nursing.

 (Your baby is adorable btw). 

No that is called the Unpopular Opinion thread. You posted in the confessions thread, Einstein.

rockychryslerb2010

I might get flamed for this too, but I can understand the point about TTC so soon.  I know there could be legitimate reasons (as she later points out) why TTC right now is right for people, but for me, personally, I can't imagine having number two so soon.  I think I asked a question about this the other week - even if I felt like I was ready, I could not imagine going to my boss that I was pregnant again and would be taking another 13 weeks off in 2013.  I know it really doesn't matter to my boss, and legally FMLA is a yearly benefit(i think).  I am trying to balance career / kids.  My career would be toast if I was out on leave again so quickly.  Besides, I am loving every minute of E's first six months, and I get so little time with him as it is, I'm not ready to have to introduce another baby to the mix.

That being said, I would never side-eye someone for it, because it is a personal family decision that I have no right to judge. 

robynlynn83

I know that some people think having a lot of kids is environmentally irresponsible.  Some people think it is financially unthinkable.  Some think they don't get enough attention...

Funny thing is, I probably have a family with a smaller carbon footprint than 90% of people on this board and the general public... we are green to a near extreme.

We have taken care of our children from day one financially and so that debunks that.

Our kids are well rounded, adjusted kids with plenty of time with their parents--planting the garden, doing chores, playing, etc.  ALSO, with their THREE siblings, they learn how to share and be social nicely.  It really works out fabulously so sideeye all you want but I find it a ridiculous thought to "sideeye" people with larger families.

iluvmylab

haleymay18:

NaturalBlond:

Yes, me and my December 2011 baby girl are trolling the December 2011 Bump board.

 It's a thread where people are supposed to post their flammable opinions, is it not? And I think that's what I did. I don't know what more to say, at least not one handed while nursing.

 (Your baby is adorable btw). 

No that is called the Unpopular Opinion thread. You posted in the confessions thread, Einstein.

I think it's the opposite.  Unpopular opinions get flamed, Friday is FFFC- Flame Free Friday Confessions.  But asking her why she feels the way she does isn't flaming IMO.

robynlynn83

iluvmylab:

haleymay18:

NaturalBlond:

Yes, me and my December 2011 baby girl are trolling the December 2011 Bump board.

 It's a thread where people are supposed to post their flammable opinions, is it not? And I think that's what I did. I don't know what more to say, at least not one handed while nursing.

 (Your baby is adorable btw). 

No that is called the Unpopular Opinion thread. You posted in the confessions thread, Einstein.

I think it's the opposite.  Unpopular opinions get flamed, Friday is FFFC- Flame Free Friday Confessions.  But asking her why she feels the way she does isn't flaming IMO.

I think everybody knows that FFFC always get flamed

iluvmylab

robynlynn83:

iluvmylab:

haleymay18:

NaturalBlond:

Yes, me and my December 2011 baby girl are trolling the December 2011 Bump board.

 It's a thread where people are supposed to post their flammable opinions, is it not? And I think that's what I did. I don't know what more to say, at least not one handed while nursing.

 (Your baby is adorable btw). 

No that is called the Unpopular Opinion thread. You posted in the confessions thread, Einstein.

I think it's the opposite.  Unpopular opinions get flamed, Friday is FFFC- Flame Free Friday Confessions.  But asking her why she feels the way she does isn't flaming IMO.

I think everybody knows that FFFC always get flamed

Yeah of course they do!  But I don't reallly think she's getting flamed- until she started up again in the other post anyway.  Oh well, made for good reading at least!

haleymay18

iluvmylab:

haleymay18:

NaturalBlond:

Yes, me and my December 2011 baby girl are trolling the December 2011 Bump board.

 It's a thread where people are supposed to post their flammable opinions, is it not? And I think that's what I did. I don't know what more to say, at least not one handed while nursing.

 (Your baby is adorable btw). 

No that is called the Unpopular Opinion thread. You posted in the confessions thread, Einstein.

I think it's the opposite.  Unpopular opinions get flamed, Friday is FFFC- Flame Free Friday Confessions.  But asking her why she feels the way she does isn't flaming IMO.

Opinions are beliefs, confessions are things you have done that you want to get off your chest. Unless she beats up women who don't vaccinate than she isn't sharing a confession rather an opinion.

 

iluvmylab

haleymay18:

iluvmylab:

haleymay18:

NaturalBlond:

Yes, me and my December 2011 baby girl are trolling the December 2011 Bump board.

 It's a thread where people are supposed to post their flammable opinions, is it not? And I think that's what I did. I don't know what more to say, at least not one handed while nursing.

 (Your baby is adorable btw). 

No that is called the Unpopular Opinion thread. You posted in the confessions thread, Einstein.

I think it's the opposite.  Unpopular opinions get flamed, Friday is FFFC- Flame Free Friday Confessions.  But asking her why she feels the way she does isn't flaming IMO.

Opinions are beliefs, confessions are things you have done that you want to get off your chest. Unless she beats up women who don't vaccinate than she isn't sharing a confession rather an opinion.

 

I guess she was confessing her feelings.  And LOL at that ^^^

alexvause

I'm surprised more people don't see where natural blonde is coming from. 

A lot of these things are just irresponsible IMO.

Those TTC right away get the side eye from me because it's potentially harmful to both mom and baby-- ideal spacing is at least 18 months between pregnancies. Our bodies are depleted of a ton of nutrients while we are pregnant and it takes awhile for those nutrients to be restored.

Most people that delay vaccines/don't vaccinate  don't do it because of previous complications, they do it because their BFF is or because Dr Sears suggested it. Personally I find that irresponsible. As the pp stated, Epidemiologists are the experts in this area and that is what we will go by. 

As far as the 3+ kids I don't really have a problem with that if you can afford it and give all of your kids the attention they deserve (which isn't the case a lot of the time) 

kwinkle1980

ruby soho:

I'm surprised more people don't see where natural blonde is coming from. 

A lot of these things are just irresponsible IMO.

Those TTC right away get the side eye from me because it's potentially harmful to both mom and baby-- ideal spacing is at least 18 months between pregnancies. Our bodies are depleted of a ton of nutrients while we are pregnant and it takes awhile for those nutrients to be restored.

Most people that delay vaccines/don't vaccinate  don't do it because of previous complications, they do it because their BFF is or because Dr Sears suggested it. Personally I find that irresponsible. As the pp stated, Epidemiologists are the experts in this area and that is what we will go by. 

As far as the 3+ kids I don't really have a problem with that if you can afford it and give all of your kids the attention they deserve (which isn't the case a lot of the time) 

I agree that she doesn't deserve this kind of thread. Her confession was small potatoes compared to mrsfowler's.

haleymay18

kwinkle1980:

ruby soho:

I'm surprised more people don't see where natural blonde is coming from. 

A lot of these things are just irresponsible IMO.

Those TTC right away get the side eye from me because it's potentially harmful to both mom and baby-- ideal spacing is at least 18 months between pregnancies. Our bodies are depleted of a ton of nutrients while we are pregnant and it takes awhile for those nutrients to be restored.

Most people that delay vaccines/don't vaccinate  don't do it because of previous complications, they do it because their BFF is or because Dr Sears suggested it. Personally I find that irresponsible. As the pp stated, Epidemiologists are the experts in this area and that is what we will go by. 

As far as the 3+ kids I don't really have a problem with that if you can afford it and give all of your kids the attention they deserve (which isn't the case a lot of the time) 

I agree that she doesn't deserve this kind of thread. Her confession was small potatoes compared to mrsfowler's.

It wasn't a confession. It was an opinion.

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hisbeautyalways

mtb21:

robynlynn83:

So, because you don't know people who want 3+ kids, it gets a sideeye? Makes total sense.

I guess my thoughts were that she can not afford 3+ kids. Same with the CDs... but luckily for me I can afford to do that. And being called insane on the internet for how I choose to spend money I've earned? That's new. Too bad I just can't get worked up to care about what you think of me.

 

And on the other points... I can't see how a slight delay equals not vaccinating. And as for TTC now, what about people with twins? Are you implying that they can not get to know & love both their kids at the same time? I think your logic is flawed.

 

I would love to have 3+ kids. I would love another baby ASAP. And I agree with MrsR... who are you? Offending all the posters on the board who fit into the categories you outlined was a strange intro IMO.

 

One thing I've thought about is how people say they want that alone time with the first  kid. Your second kid (or ones after that) won't get that. And if you have a big gap, your first child will remember being an only child. I don't find that fair, personally. But... I won't side-eye for it.

HaleyCinTX

NaturalBlond:

MrsRucinski85:

NaturalBlond:

Yes, me and my December 2011 baby girl are trolling the December 2011 Bump board.
It's a thread where people are supposed to post their flammable opinions, is it not? And I think that's what I did. I don't know what more to say, at least not one handed while nursing.
 (Your baby is adorable btw). 

You'er not a troll ok I guess I just havent seen you around here at all and since I basically live on this board I thought I would have at least seen your sn around here once or twice. And well lets face it, we dont get too much drama around here so I thought maybe it would be a good place for a troll to come in and start stuff...
And in my experience, people who dont have siggy pics, or tickers, or something like that usually are trolls. I know its not a requirement... just saying from my experience...


Youre right, it is to post flameable opinions, Im just wondering like why you feel that way? No offense meant here at all, just trying to figure out why you feel the way you do... Did you have a bad experience with a family with more than 3 kids? Or were you from a larger family and felt you didnt get enough attention?
Im honestly just curious how you came to your confession. Bc to me, it just seems like an odd confession. Odd like how did you come up with the number and odd as in why you feel that way.



And if that last part was address to me, thank you!

Well like I said in that thread, I want to get to know my baby, celebrate her, relish in her early milestones, before bringing another child into the mix. These feelings are so fundamental to me that I find it very foreign that there are other people out there with munchkins my munchkins age that already want to be pregnant again. Didn't we just give birth? Sickness or infertility issues notwithstanding, it's bizarre.

As for the 3+ families comment. I come from a family of three girls. I loved it. But I don't know anyone who wants three kids anymore. Most cap at two. In fact, many of my friends just want one.

Whatever. I'm not queen of the bump and therefore you may do whatever you want. Go forth and multiply like bunnies.

Yes, your kid is adorbs.

NaturalBlonde I feel the same way about having baby #2... I want to wait awhile (if I am blessed with another baby) before I get pregnant again. I just brought my child into this worrld 6 months ago, and we have so much to learn about each other. I want to be able to devote my complete attention to him while he is going through these first moments of his life. Granted, I am no spring chick so I can't wait too long for baby #2, but golly gee my C-section scar hasn't even healed completely, I couldn't imagine my belly starting to grow again

Moozilla11

hisbeautyalways:

mtb21:

robynlynn83:

So, because you don't know people who want 3+ kids, it gets a sideeye? Makes total sense.

I guess my thoughts were that she can not afford 3+ kids. Same with the CDs... but luckily for me I can afford to do that. And being called insane on the internet for how I choose to spend money I've earned? That's new. Too bad I just can't get worked up to care about what you think of me.

 

And on the other points... I can't see how a slight delay equals not vaccinating. And as for TTC now, what about people with twins? Are you implying that they can not get to know & love both their kids at the same time? I think your logic is flawed.

 

I would love to have 3+ kids. I would love another baby ASAP. And I agree with MrsR... who are you? Offending all the posters on the board who fit into the categories you outlined was a strange intro IMO.

 

One thing I've thought about is how people say they want that alone time with the first  kid. Your second kid (or ones after that) won't get that. And if you have a big gap, your first child will remember being an only child. I don't find that fair, personally. But... I won't side-eye for it.

Totally agree with this.

But the main reason why we are TTC 'already' is for medical reasons. We were told that we will probably have a hard time getting pregnant again due to a lot of internal scaring. As well as a few other things but will spare the details.

Also I grew up in a huge family. 4 sisters and 3 brothers. I loved it. am I going to go have 8 babies? No. Am I going to have more than 3? Who knows. But I really do not plan on having more than 3 or 4. 

KansasFarmMomma

AndieD6709:

jesselayne8:

I am glad you give us infertiles a break. Maybe I am TTC now out of fear. The fear that it may take longer to conceive #2. It is what it is:)

Just wanted you to know you aren't the only one Jesse. Though in our case it's #3. (I should probablly say though at this point we're just not preventing and not "actively" trying.) Both DH and I wanted to see what my body would do post baby.

 This is why we started so early. It took us 13 months to get pregnant with DS so while we were trying for #2, we certainly didn't expect it to happen so soon. With #3, we will wait until #2 is a year old knowing now that we CAN get pregnant right away.

ChelseaP1985

kwinkle1980:

ruby soho:

I'm surprised more people don't see where natural blonde is coming from. 

A lot of these things are just irresponsible IMO.

Those TTC right away get the side eye from me because it's potentially harmful to both mom and baby-- ideal spacing is at least 18 months between pregnancies. Our bodies are depleted of a ton of nutrients while we are pregnant and it takes awhile for those nutrients to be restored.

Most people that delay vaccines/don't vaccinate  don't do it because of previous complications, they do it because their BFF is or because Dr Sears suggested it. Personally I find that irresponsible. As the pp stated, Epidemiologists are the experts in this area and that is what we will go by. 

As far as the 3+ kids I don't really have a problem with that if you can afford it and give all of your kids the attention they deserve (which isn't the case a lot of the time) 

I agree that she doesn't deserve this kind of thread. Her confession was small potatoes compared to mrsfowler's.

All of this.