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UPDATE: Upsetting 2nd U/S today and large yolk sac... D&C scheduled.

Today was my second ultrasound. We saw the baby and heartbeat but my RE said that the yolk sac is large which usually signifies a genetic issue with the baby. He also was not happy with the heartbeat (didn't tell me what it was). He said he didn't think this pregnancy would last much longer and that he wanted to schedule a D&C for next Thursday. I was in shock and asked some questions but have since written down many more to ask. I told him I'd like to have another ultrasound before the D&C to make sure.

I have another ultrasound on Monday.

This will be my 5th miscarriage. 3rd in a row. :( I thought for sure this would be a good pregnancy. I have felt exacly like I did with my son. SO tired, hungry, emotional, bloated, etc...

What would you ask your doctor? Any thoughts?

 Update- I called my doctor's office to ask what the fetal heart rate was and the size of the yolk sac. The nurse called me back and said he does not measure the fetal heart rate but just listens to it and that he doesn't measure the yolk sac. SERIOUSLY!?! Those things make a difference and mean something! I'm going to ask him to tell me the heart rate on Monday and ask to be refered to a MFM specialist. I don't like how this doctor relies so heavily on his "gut" feelings and that he wants to schedule a D&C with the heart beating. This is so frustrating! He is supposed to be the leading fertility specialist in my state and I feel like I am just a lab experiment to him! :(

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Re: UPDATE: Upsetting 2nd U/S today and large yolk sac... D&C scheduled.

  • I'm sorry I don't have experience with this problem, but personally, I don't know that I would schedule a D&C until there was no HB, or there was a definitive answer as to what was probably wrong.  I would definitely call tomorrow to find out what the HB was, because it would drive me nuts not knowing.  

    I would ask the Dr. what kind of genetic issue he thought it was, and what would happen if you let it go a bit longer to see if things straighten themselves out. 

    Good luck with your u/s on Monday, here's hoping the HB is stronger and the yolk sac isn't so large. 

    ETA:  I also agree with possibly getting a 2nd opinion.  It certainly can't hurt. 


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  • So sorry to hear that. I hope the Monday u/s shows something different!
  • I would definitely ask for more answers and then get a second opinion. Go to a different OB and see what they say. I would not be ok with a D&C being scheduled when you have a healthy HB. A HB is a HB. ((hugs)) and hope you get much better info. 

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    I'm sorry I don't have experience with this problem, but personally, I don't know that I would schedule a D&C until there was no HB, or there was a definitive answer as to what was probably wrong.  I would definitely call tomorrow to find out what the HB was, because it would drive me nuts not knowing.  

    I would ask the Dr. what kind of genetic issue he thought it was, and what would happen if you let it go a bit longer to see if things straighten themselves out. 

    Good luck with your u/s on Monday, here's hoping the HB is stronger and the yolk sac isn't so large. 

    ETA:  I also agree with possibly getting a 2nd opinion.  It certainly can't hurt. 

    All of the above.  I would try and get a second opinion.  I would ask your doctor what he thought the issue was and how it will affect the baby.  Definitely get a check on the heartbeat.  Hope everything turns out okay!  ((Hugs)) 

  • Thanks Ladies-

    I will be making a phone call to his office tomorrow. There were so many questions I had but when he gave me the "I'm so sorry look" and started explaining about the yolk sac, I was a sobbing mess. :(

    DH and I talked/cried it out on the way home and came up with a list of questions to ask.

     

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  • :( so sorry to hear.  Hoping things look better Monday :(
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    I'm sorry I don't have experience with this problem, but personally, I don't know that I would schedule a D&C until there was no HB, or there was a definitive answer as to what was probably wrong.  I would definitely call tomorrow to find out what the HB was, because it would drive me nuts not knowing.  

    I would ask the Dr. what kind of genetic issue he thought it was, and what would happen if you let it go a bit longer to see if things straighten themselves out. 

    Good luck with your u/s on Monday, here's hoping the HB is stronger and the yolk sac isn't so large. 

    ETA:  I also agree with possibly getting a 2nd opinion.  It certainly can't hurt. 

    All of the above.  I would try and get a second opinion.  I would ask your doctor what he thought the issue was and how it will affect the baby.  Definitely get a check on the heartbeat.  Hope everything turns out okay!  ((Hugs)) 

    I agree with all of this.  Praying for some good news for you.  

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  • I agree with many of the other pp...I  would not schedule a d & c until you have another ultrasound and if there is still a heartbeat, maybe get a second opinion before making a decision. Many thought and prayers go out to you. I'm sorry you have to go through this. 
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  • Personally, if I had a heartbeat, not only would I schedule another ultrasound, I would also think really hard about getting a second opinion. When he says "usually signifies" a genetic issue, to me that is pretty vague and I wouldn't in conscience be able to terminate the pregnancy on that.

    I am so sorry you are having to go through this. 

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  • I am so sorry :( I agree with all of the PP though... I would ask your questions asap, definitely do your u/s on Monday, and possibly go see another dr. for a second opinion. I would not give up until there is no HB. Even though MOST of the time a large yolk sac means a genetic issue, doesn't mean it's DEFINITELY what this case is. 

    I'm sending many T&Ps your way, and hope you get all the answers you need!!  

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    I'm sorry you didn't have a good ultrasound. I agree with others and would not schedule a D&C just yet. Wait to see what happens on Monday and then you decide what you want to do. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers. 
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  • I am sorry you are having to go through this and hope it all works out for you and your little one.  I would definitely ask all of your questions, have a repeat ultrasound and even get a second opinion.  Why exactly does he feel this way and why didn't he give you specific reasons.  I don't like his lack of clarity and would be very anxious about this as well.  Good for you for being an advocate for yourself and your little one.  Good luck.
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    With a heartbeat, I wouldn't want to schedule a D & C just yet. Praying that everything works out for your next u/s.  Sending many positive thoughts your way!

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  • I so sorry to hear you are having a rough day. I would totally recommend a second opinion. I also have copied a link of women who were told the same thing and ended up with perfectly healthy babies.

     It is truly amazing because the medical sites online give NO HOPE whatsoever for a large yolk sac and yet we've now had several cases of women go on to have a perfectly viable pregnancy. I found this on https://www.misdiagnosedmiscarriage.com/mycommunity/viewtopic.php?t=7244

    "For other women who are looking for hope here is one of Stacy's threads. She went through the same thing and had her perfect little baby

    https://www.misdiagnosedmiscarriage.com/ ... .php?t=768

    Also MsTulip who had her beautiful little girl:

    https://www.misdiagnosedmiscarriage.com/ ... php?t=1031

    Just goes to show, the literature doctors read is not always correct. A large yolk sac does not necessarily mean a miscarriage. We need to get that word out because doctors do convince women to have D&Cs as a result of that diagnosis."

    Good luck. I hope things work out well for you. <HUGS>

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    I'm so sorry, I hope your doctor is wrong!!


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  • My third loss involved a babe with a large yolk sac. Things didn't work out, but what I was told is that a large yolk sac is a bad indicator, but is not definitive. For me, the HR was also <90 and baby wasn't measuring the correct size. I would ask to wait it out. There is no rush to schedule a d&c. Sometimes I think doctors really down play the risks of D&Cs. 

    Im so sorry you are going through this...  there are success stories out there, but no matter the outcome be sure to take care of yourself. 

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  • https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16953856

    Here is a study on large yolk sacs and viability of pregnancy.  They say that a heartbeat is a good sign and that a large yolk sac can be present in a healthy pregnancy.  I definitely would not have a D&C while there was still a HB.  There isn't a rush, so don't ever feel pressured into a D&C.   I hope that your follow up has good news. 

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  • Since I can't add anything that hasn't been stated (you girls are awesome for finding those articles, btw!), I'll just let you know that you are in my thoughts, and would love to know what the ultrasound shows on Monday!

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  • ateachateach member
    I am really sorry about your news. :-( BUT I am not a doctor, but I think something sounds strange about that. I would definitely wait some time and have another scan before going for a D&C. I couldn't get a D&C that early with a beating heart and appropriate growth. I would even consider getting an opinion from another doctor. Good luck!
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  • I'm so sorry you're goog through this. T&P for better news on Monday 
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  • As others have said there is no way I would schedule a D&C because something might be right at this stage.  Sounds like there is also a chance that things are fine.  I'm sorry you're having to go through this stress.  I hope that all goes well and the doctor is wrong.  I would get a second opinion for sure. 
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  • I am so sorry to hear this. Like others have said, I would definitely not schedule a D&C until it was confirmed that there was no longer a heartbeat. I would go for another u/s and if necessary, get a second opinion. I hope your next u/s goes much better!
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  • imagetetiananina:
    I would definitely ask for more answers and then get a second opinion. Go to a different OB and see what they say. I would not be ok with a D&C being scheduled when you have a healthy HB. A HB is a HB. ((hugs)) and hope you get much better info. 
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    I'm sorry I don't have experience with this problem, but personally, I don't know that I would schedule a D&C until there was no HB, or there was a definitive answer as to what was probably wrong.  I would definitely call tomorrow to find out what the HB was, because it would drive me nuts not knowing.  

    I would ask the Dr. what kind of genetic issue he thought it was, and what would happen if you let it go a bit longer to see if things straighten themselves out. 

    Good luck with your u/s on Monday, here's hoping the HB is stronger and the yolk sac isn't so large. 

    ETA:  I also agree with possibly getting a 2nd opinion.  It certainly can't hurt. 

    All of the above.  I would try and get a second opinion.  I would ask your doctor what he thought the issue was and how it will affect the baby.  Definitely get a check on the heartbeat.  Hope everything turns out okay!  ((Hugs)) 

    All of this! Very rarely is a pregnancy textbook - I would get a second opinion especially if he was recommending a d&c with a hb and you are unsure of exactly why other than that is what he thinks. GL to you!

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  • I am so sorry. Sounds like a second opinion is needed in this case. Best wishes.
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    Oh goodness, I am so sorry.  I would definitely want another ultrasound, and maybe a second opinion.

    This. 

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  • I just wanted to come in to echo what everyone else has said - get a second opinion and do not agree to a D&C while there is still a heartbeat unless you KNOW there is a problem. 

    Many doctors seem way too quick to pull the trigger on D&Cs and you are entitled to getting as many answers as you need before consenting to one.

    Hugs.  I know we have a very similar history so I just wanted to say that I'm so so sorry you are going though this stress right now. 

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