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Update and a natural m/c Q (loss ment.)

So I've been a total Lurky Lurkerson all week...it's just too much right now. But I thought I'd write and tell you guys how things are going.

My OB wanted to view the u/s personally before agreeing with the peri's m/c diagnosis (which was made on Tuesday).  She took her sweet ass time, and her nurse called Thursday at 4:45 and said, "well, she's says it's more than likely abnormal, but because your betas went up, she wants you to repeat the u/s in 10 days to know for sure."  I was beside myself.  All this waiting for 3 weeks, and they want me to wait almost 2 more?  Even after a specialist confirmed the loss and my OB said it was most likely accurate? My heart couldn't take any more false hope.

Well, finally some mercy.  Apparently my body realized I just couldn't do it anymore, nor could I go through another D&C.  I woke up to full-on bleeding this morning.  I'm now just spotting, but the process has very obviously begun.  I'm equal parts relieved and sad.  I finally got the answer I needed, it just wasn't the answer I wanted.

Now, my question:  what can I expect?  I'm frightened by this process.  Pain?  Amount of bleeding?  I know the "go to the ER if you soak through a pad an hour" thing...but beyond that; what am in for, and for how long?

ETA:  Do I mark this as CD1 in FF, even though right now I'm just spotting?

Thanks, friends.  I hope you all have a lovely holiday weekend.

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  • I'm so sorry to hear this isn't going to be happy news for you. I was keeping my fingers crossed for you. 

    I'm equal parts relieved and sad.

    I can absolutely see how this is how you feel. I would not want to be in limbo for another 3 weeks. For me I had bad cramping for days...like more than regular AF cramping and what started as spotting quickly picked up to heavy bleeding and I bled for about 8-9 days and then spotted off an on for a bit. I was 6 weeks when that m/c happened. For me the spotting started before the cramping. By comparison, the CP I had in March the cramping started before the bleeding.

    I think it would be easiest to mark today as CD1 but note that you weren't full-on bleeding. I marked the first day I started bleeidng as CD1 even though my Dr. told me my body wouldn't recognize it's ready to work on new ovulation until my hcg dropped significantly. It took me about 31 days to ovulate after I started bleeding.

    Hope this helps and again, I"m sorry.

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  • So so sorry :( 

    I was about 6 weeks when I MCed naturally.  I bled for about 9 days. Really didn't have any pain, some pretty intense cramps the first few days but that was about it.  I know every MC is different though.

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  • I'm sorry for your loss, and the stress of having to wait.
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  • {{huge hugs}} im sorry to see youre back!

    Beta hell is awful and i totally understand your statement. 

  • With my natural miscarriage, I spotted for a week, then all hell broke loose and I basically passed everything over the course of a very rough 3 hours. The worst cramps of my life, tons of clots (and the gestational sac, which was about the size of my palm). I'm not trying to scare you, and of course everybody's different... but I basically just spent those 3 hours sitting on the toilet, sobbing and pushing out clots. A pad would have been no good.

    I know that's not very encouraging, but I'm being completely honest. The worst was over after those 3 hours. Then, I bled (like a period) for another week--occasionally passing a large, painful clot, followed by another freaking week of spotting.

    I hope this is over soon for you. This has been dragging on for you way too long now. :( 

    If you had red bleeding today, I'd call it CD1.

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    I am so sorry that you're going through this again Sad  I have had two losses at 6 weeks, with the first I was in a lot of pain and went to the ER for heavy bleeding, after the initial first two days it was really like a long period, maybe 10 days or so.  With the second I had spotting that gradually got as heavy as a period and I never had pain worse then a normal menstrual cramp.  It also only lasted about a week, it was much milder than the first one.

    I would suggest getting a heating pad out, that really helped me a lot and hot showers.  (( Hugs )), again I'm so sorry.


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  • I'm so sorry for your loss. I can see where there is some relief in knowing your body recognized what was happening and took action. And you avoid medical interventions hopefully. 

    After my m/c, my RE said that once HCG gets to zero or near zero, the normal cycles will start back up again, probably ovulate and then AF will show up 2-4 weeks after that. Hopefully they will monitor your HCG levels so you know what's going on. 

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    I'm so sorry kpowers! What a horrible experience.

    *Sensitive story below, warning*

    Natural mc's can be very unpredictable. Mine was fast and VERY painful. It took four hours from the moment I started bleeding red (was spotting brown for a day) until I had passed the sac. The pain felt like true contractions. I went to the ER for drugs (morphine, what a sweet relief) and peace of mind to get an emergency ultrasound, which only confirmed what I already knew. The hospital was so effing slow about everything, I got the ultrasound after being their for hours and everything that could have been visible had already passed. Therefore I have no pictures of Bunny, nor do I have any pictures of me pregnant with her. The sac got stuck in my cervix, so the doctor removed it with little forceps and suction (uncomfortable, but not painful). I was discharged and went home for a shower and a quick nap, then on to the OB's office for another ultrasound which again confirmed the loss. However I was also told that my lining looked great and I would pass all of it over the next several days. She was right. The next ten days I had a heavy period with intense cramps that came and went. The whole process took ten days from pre-spotting to post-spotting, and the bleeding did slow down between passing the sac and passing all of that lining (the time between the ER and my OB's office on that fateful day). I got my first AF post-loss 29 days later. So, that's my story.

    I've since learned that there are no two m/c's alike. Some natural m/c's take much longer, but are less painful. My advice to you is, DO NOT be afraid to take pain meds! I've said it before, but there's no reason to add insult to injury. This experience SUCKS, don't make yourself suffer through physical pain too. Personally, I am proud that my body recognized the need to miscarry, as traumatic as it was. I hated the feeling of having no control and feeling everything just fall out of me. I started the process praying that she would stay in me. On the way to the ER I prayed that it would be fast.

    I'm sorry kpowers, I don't really know what you can expect. Just take good care of yourself, whatever that means! (((Hugs))). You can PM me if you want to chat more.

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  • I have been thinking about you and praying for you all week. 
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  •  I'm so sorry your in this position.

    I totally get it. My fear had gotten to the point where a natural miscarriage was actually a relief - both emotionally and physically. For my 6w loss it was Just like a period, with the exception of the first day it was actually lighter than normal. 

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  • I am so so sorry this is happening to you.

    I was also 6wk/6days.  When I called my OB she said to go to the ER and I wish I hadn't.  I started brown spotting/mild cramps on a Friday afternoon, within a couple hours it was period red and more severe cramps.  She sent me to the ER, where they did a pelvic and an U/S (and transvaginal U/S).  There was nothing there.  The reason I wished that I hadn't gone was because they made me feel like I was crazy, like it was just a late period.  Even though my HCG was 55 (and I knew they should have been in the thousands).  So if you do have to go to the ER, it might not be as bad as my experience, hopefully they're human.

    By about 2 in the morning, I had crazy severe cramps.  I took a hot bath to try to get it to hurt less.  A heating pad would have helped but I couldn't find it.  I was afraid to take anything since the ER wouldn't give me a definitive answer and I didn't want to hurt the baby.  The next morning I passed a clot the size of a prune with a beige spot about the size of an tomato seed.  Didn't want to look any closer.  I kept it wrapped up on the back of the toilet for awhile because I felt like I was flushing my baby down the toilet.  Then I said goodbye.

    Still had cramps on Saturday, by this point I took Pamprin because I had accepted my fate.  Sunday was a light/mild cramping, didn't feel the need to take anything.  Period lasted a full week, was never what I would call heavy.  HCG's took about 2-3 weeks to get to zero.  I still haven't had AF yet, but I would call today CD1 for you :(

    Again, I am so so sorry.  I agree with PP that said don't hesitate to take something for the pain.  That's what I would have done different, plus not go to the sh*tty ER.  God, I am so sorry.

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     The reason I wished that I hadn't gone was because they made me feel like I was crazy, like it was just a late period.  

    That's terrible! I'm so sorry! I just added them to my hit list.

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    kpowers, I just wanted to add that I was told no baths, hot tubs, or anything up the vag for 2 weeks. I believe it's the same for a D&C. You're very prone to infection right now.

    luvsdogs, I saw in your story that you bathed during your m/c. I'm so happy that it gave you some relief, and so happy that it didn't harm you.

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  • So sorry.... Thinking about you

     

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  • First let me say I am so so sorry you are going through this. Being in that state of limbo is beyond difficult.

    I have had 3 natural m/c and each was a little different. My first was at 6 weeks and I experienced cramps a little more intense then a normal AF. The whole process took a few hours and then I bled for another week. My second and third m/c's were at 8 and 9 weeks. My body didn't recognize the losses on its own so I took cytotec with both to get the process going. Both of these losses were much more intense physically ( and emotionally). The cramps were far worse and I was very thankful my dr had prescribed some heavy pain meds. They helped quite a bit as did a heating pad. Again it probably took a few hours for the process to complete once it really got started. My last loss was pretty mentally traumatic for me. I thought I had passed it all but then 4 days later I got severe cramps again and passed more tissue.

    I'll be thinking about you and sending (((huge hugs))) 

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    I am so sorry this has been such an ordeal. ((hugs))
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    I am so so sorry. I know it is not the answer you wanted but I am glad you do not have to live in limbo land. ((hugs))
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  • I'm so sorry. :( I don't have much to add about the m/c process, but wanted to give you some (HUGE HUGS)
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  • I'm so sorry for your loss.  It's a crappy experience.  For me, the day that i miscarried, it felt kind of like a period.  I had been bleeding for a few days, but then i felt a squeezing sensation like my body was trying to push everything out.  I tried to use all of the relaxation techniques i could think of and tried to let my body do what it needed to do.  Then i thought i'd sit on the toilet and everything just kind of plopped out.  Physically, for me, it wasn't really painful at all beyond a normal cycle.  It's just a crappy feeling emotionally of course.  I'd recommend taking advil or something to dull the pain. 

    Again, I'm so sorry.  I just wanted to share my story with you because so many people have had such painful experiences and i don't want you to be too scared and freaked out on the physical side.  I guess everyone's experience is different, and I hope yours isn't too painful. 

    You'll be in my thoughts this weekend.  ((hugs))

     

  • ((((HUGE HUGS)))) I'm so sorry, but glad that you're no longer in limbo.
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  • Ahahahaha, I don't know whether to laugh or cry.  Because the bleeding stopped, OB still wants to wait for a repeat ultrasound on 6/4.  June.  Motherloving.  4th.  More than 2 weeks from today. Ridiculous.  I just want this to be done.

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  • I don't have any personal experience with natural m/c but I just want to jump in and say that I'm thinking of you, and pray for peace and comfort for you and YH during these upcoming days.

  • I don't want to scare you, but my first MC was such a horror story, that it made me opt for a D&C without thinking twice the 2nd time.

    I started spotting on the Thursday (I was 9wks6days). Went to ER with low betas. US confirmed no HB,  but I didn't pass any parts yet, as the whole fetus was still visible.

    On the Friday I was still spotting, but no major changes. On the Saturday I was getting ready to go to ER due to a major increase in bleeding and cramps, and as I was getting ready I felt something..I was passing the gestational sac, at home in my bathroom. It was the size of a large egg.

    So I hysterically put myself together, and back to ER. They confirmed I passed most of it and told me to be back if I get a fever, increased bleeding, or it doesn't subside.

    Over the next 5 days it was reducing.

    Then on Thursday my bleeding suddenly increased again.

    Back to ER, where they told me I was running a fever, and had a full blown infection (lining was 2.5inches). They basically told me that if I waited a day I may have lost all chances of ever having kids, because of how bad it was all of a sudden.

    I was put on 2 very strong antibiotics.

    I got thrush in my mouth because of them.

    The end. 

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  • Oh, kpowers.  I'm so sorry you're stuck in this awful limbo :(  I think the previous posters have probably covered your questions, but I just want to let you know that I pray that whatever happens, it is quick, and as physically painless as possible.  I know I was grateful for that in my experience, the bulk of the pain was to my heart.  I'll be thinking of you.
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  • First I want to say I am so sorry that you have to go through this. I was hoping that we werent hearing from you becuase things were going well. 

    I think everyone has had different experiences.  I bleed like a normal period for about a week then had one really bad day of bleeding and cramping, Followed by another week of period like bleeding then another week of spotting.  The pain and bleeding werent to bad,  but it felt like it lasted forever. All I wanted was for it to stop.  Hopefully yours will go by quickly.  

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