FFFC

Kimmy9j

Little&BigPea:

mainemommy:

<--- has been to NA, AA, & substance abuse counseling in 3 states. Lives in a town where 50% of my schoolmates are addicts & for sure knows more drug addicts & alcoholics than my ex. 

Stop being a pretentious know it all.  You do not actually know M&M in real life and neither do you know her EX.  Stop lumping everybody into your prejudices.  Not all ex-addicts are worthless, which you seem to be implying.

 La dee F-ing DA.

Her Ex aside.  Its on M&M to do what is best for herself and her children, she has shown she is a very capable stong woman and great Mom.   

katie4253

mainemommy:

<--- has been to NA, AA, & substance abuse counseling in 3 states. Lives in a town where 50% of my schoolmates are addicts & for sure knows more drug addicts & alcoholics than my ex. 

Why have you been to NA, AA, and substance abuse counseling?   Unless you are an addict, you really shouldn't have gone to those places.

My mom's been in recovery since I was 4 and I spent a lot of time in the support side of addiction, which is alakid, alateen, and alanon.  Those are the support organizations (the organizations you go to when you are involved in some way with an addict).  

 I am not going to make any comments or judgements about MM.  She is an adult and will have figure out her own life.  But, this statement struck me. 

FrankieandTyler

congrats M&M!! a very happy and healthy 9 months to you!! do you know your due date or anything yet?? my brother and i are 18 months apart and we are the best of friends!! instant playmates!

mainemommy

Little&BigPea:

mainemommy:

<--- has been to NA, AA, & substance abuse counseling in 3 states. Lives in a town where 50% of my schoolmates are addicts & for sure knows more drug addicts & alcoholics than my ex. 

Stop being a pretentious know it all.  You do not actually know M&M in real life and neither do you know her EX.  Stop lumping everybody into your prejudices.  Not all ex-addicts are worthless, which you seem to be implying.

Not even a few months after she kicked him out because of his drug addiction being more important than her & their child she's sleeping with him? Honest truth Id have more respect for her if this child was a result of a 1 night stand. 

LnR70707

Holy hot mess.  Jan 2013 isn't even a board yet and it already has guaranteed drama.

jmo866

mainemommy:

<--- has been to NA, AA, & substance abuse counseling in 3 states. Lives in a town where 50% of my schoolmates are addicts & for sure knows more drug addicts & alcoholics than my ex. 

Don't project your life experiences on someone else. It is entirely possible for someone to be a reformed drug addict and go on to live happy and healthy lives. Just because that may not have been the case in your situation, doesn't mean it's so for everyone. Just as butt kissing is not going to help her situation, neither is nay saying a pregnancy that has already occurred. Is she supposed to go back into her time machine and un-have sex with him? Or un-impregnate herself? Just say congrats and move along. I am sure you have good intentions, but it's not coming across that way.

M&M I have already said it, but congrats again!

CocoBrynne

L&R70707:

Holy hot mess.  Jan 2013 isn't even a board yet and it already has guaranteed drama.

Word.  Where's my popcorn?

I wonder what type of response this post would get on the single parents board?

XSailoretteX

Kimmy9j:

Little&BigPea:

mainemommy:

<--- has been to NA, AA, & substance abuse counseling in 3 states. Lives in a town where 50% of my schoolmates are addicts & for sure knows more drug addicts & alcoholics than my ex. 

Stop being a pretentious know it all.  You do not actually know M&M in real life and neither do you know her EX.  Stop lumping everybody into your prejudices.  Not all ex-addicts are worthless, which you seem to be implying.

 La dee F-ing DA.

Her Ex aside.  Its on M&M to do what is best for herself and her children, she has shown she is a very capable stong woman and great Mom.   

I am still trying to figure out how the pregnancy of a healthy, capable, and completely self-sufficient adult has brought out a call for a good ol' fashioned stoning.

"Not every pregnancy should be celebrated"? What's between the lines there? That next week we should do a clicky on the abortion or just that we shouldn't feel bad about dosing out a little shame?

Yep, she has shared that her ex has had issue in the past with drug abuse. I don't think the failing to beat that dead horse a couple more times qualifies as kissing anyone's butt. She's accepted what Mason's father is capable of adding to the situation as acceptable and is happy with her current situation.

Until someone points out where a child could be harmed or that she's asking me (personally or as a member of society) for anything whatsoever, I'm going to err on the side of supporting a woman in making her own life choices. Daamnit.

CocoBrynne

XSailoretteX:

Kimmy9j:

Little&BigPea:

mainemommy:

<--- has been to NA, AA, & substance abuse counseling in 3 states. Lives in a town where 50% of my schoolmates are addicts & for sure knows more drug addicts & alcoholics than my ex. 

Stop being a pretentious know it all.  You do not actually know M&M in real life and neither do you know her EX.  Stop lumping everybody into your prejudices.  Not all ex-addicts are worthless, which you seem to be implying.

 La dee F-ing DA.

Her Ex aside.  Its on M&M to do what is best for herself and her children, she has shown she is a very capable stong woman and great Mom.   

I am still trying to figure out how the pregnancy of a healthy, capable, and completely self-sufficient adult has brought out a call for a good ol' fashioned stoning.

"Not every pregnancy should be celebrated"? What's between the lines there? That next week we should do a clicky on the abortion or just that we shouldn't feel bad about dosing out a little shame?

Yep, she has shared that her ex has had issue in the past with drug abuse. I don't think the failing to beat that dead horse a couple more times qualifies as kissing anyone's butt. She's accepted what Mason's father is capable of adding to the situation as acceptable and is happy with her current situation.

Until someone points out where a child could be harmed or that she's asking me (personally or as a member of society) for anything whatsoever, I'm going to err on the side of supporting a woman in making her own life choices. Daamnit.

Very easily in my mind.  She stated she had faith in his parenting abilities even tho he is an admitted drug addict who relapsed not 6 months ago.  No way in H-E double hockey sticks am I letting my infant in the care of a drug user.  Who is to say she doesn't drop off one or both kids, and he gets stressed out and leaves the kiddos alone, or takes them with him on a drug deal, or gets high while he is watching them.  Or God forbid, they get into his drug du jour.

I almost forgot that she is a nurse, it's not as if she is 17 yr old kid, then I could almost have some sympathy.  The fact that she is supposed to be a college educated person working in the medical field and making such poor choices is astounding to some of us is all.  It seems as tho everyone is taking a very rose colored glasses approach to the situation, when it's actually very sad for the kids who had no say in any of this.

aichandaich

mainemommy:

Mason&Mama:

katie4253:

Mason&Mama:

BFP

How are you feeling about this?  I am sure you're having some mixed emotions.  Congrats though!  Babies are a blessing!

Thanks. Actually, I am extremely happy and excited. I wouldn't say mixed emotions about the actually pregnancy. I always wanted at least one more baby, and I wanted them close (although, I wasn't planning on this close!) My family situation has been good lately. J has been a hands-on dad from day one, and although we have a complicated relationship, he is here to take care of his son every single day. He is great with him, and i know that i am lucky to have that. We get along great, and we only separated because I wanted him to take time to concentrate on the issues he needed to work on. He has been involved with treatment on a daily basis. He is very committed to therapy, an outpatient rehab program, and NA. He was clean for years, slipped up for a week or two around the holidays, and he has been clean since then. I think that we are at a point where we can (and must) work things out. We still live apart but spend our days together. Usually it is still my father who watches Mason overnight while I work, but I would trust J completely if I needed him to fill in. The situation is by no means perfect, but I am truly happy about #2. Best surprise ever!

 

 

By the way, I replied to you Katie, but I just thought that I might as well explain myself to everyone because I am sure people are a little surprised based on previous posts about my situation. I don't NEED to explain, but I thought that unwound share. I have shared everything else so might as well. I expect a few side-eyes and maybe some flames, but I appreciate all the congrats. Thanks everyone.

As someone who has children with a drug addict Im shocked by you. I thought you were stronger than this because of how hard you tried to convince us of it when we called you out. I hope all the best for you & your children but as far as internet respect goes you just totally dropped off the radar. Yes I can judge because unlike most of the people here I know exactly what this situation is like.  

Not that my opinion matters, because this is just the internet and I don't know you or your situation. But it seems like out of anyone on here, as someone who has children (not a child) with a drug addict, you would not be so quick to judge.

katie4253

lrachelle80:

XSailoretteX:

Kimmy9j:

Little&BigPea:

mainemommy:

<--- has been to NA, AA, & substance abuse counseling in 3 states. Lives in a town where 50% of my schoolmates are addicts & for sure knows more drug addicts & alcoholics than my ex. 

Stop being a pretentious know it all.  You do not actually know M&M in real life and neither do you know her EX.  Stop lumping everybody into your prejudices.  Not all ex-addicts are worthless, which you seem to be implying.

 La dee F-ing DA.

Her Ex aside.  Its on M&M to do what is best for herself and her children, she has shown she is a very capable stong woman and great Mom.   

I am still trying to figure out how the pregnancy of a healthy, capable, and completely self-sufficient adult has brought out a call for a good ol' fashioned stoning.

"Not every pregnancy should be celebrated"? What's between the lines there? That next week we should do a clicky on the abortion or just that we shouldn't feel bad about dosing out a little shame?

Yep, she has shared that her ex has had issue in the past with drug abuse. I don't think the failing to beat that dead horse a couple more times qualifies as kissing anyone's butt. She's accepted what Mason's father is capable of adding to the situation as acceptable and is happy with her current situation.

Until someone points out where a child could be harmed or that she's asking me (personally or as a member of society) for anything whatsoever, I'm going to err on the side of supporting a woman in making her own life choices. Daamnit.

I don't think she was commenting on THIS specific pregnancy, just on the line that "all babies are blessings." They aren't always. It's not always a good thing. And sometimes people might make the very difficult and very complicated and very emotional decision to abort, and that might be better for them and hteir family.  I really don't think, though, that she was saying M&M's specific baby wasn't a blessing or trying to imply that she couldn't keep the baby - just replying to the generic "all babies are a blessing" line. 

Well, I'm the one that said that initially, and I believe it.  No, not every pregnancy is sunshine and puppies.  I fully support a woman's right to choose what is best for her and her situation. However, I do firmly believe that every baby is a blessing.  

mainemommy

katie4253:

mainemommy:

<--- has been to NA, AA, & substance abuse counseling in 3 states. Lives in a town where 50% of my schoolmates are addicts & for sure knows more drug addicts & alcoholics than my ex. 

Why have you been to NA, AA, and substance abuse counseling?   Unless you are an addict, you really shouldn't have gone to those places.

My mom's been in recovery since I was 4 and I spent a lot of time in the support side of addiction, which is alakid, alateen, and alanon.  Those are the support organizations (the organizations you go to when you are involved in some way with an addict).  

 I am not going to make any comments or judgements about MM.  She is an adult and will have figure out her own life.  But, this statement struck me. 

It was part of treatment, so I could understand from his point of view. We went both together & on our own. Court even encouraged it.  All places I introduced myself as I was & they all actually welcomed me fully. I spent many hours talking to many different people through all of that. 

& to the rest of it. I have happy healthy children with a drug addict. Im judging her, not her kids. I said before I hope for the best for all of them. She knew exactly what she was bringing on by posting this she said so herself.  

jmo866

lrachelle80:

I don't think she was commenting on THIS specific pregnancy, just on the line that "all babies are blessings." They aren't always. It's not always a good thing. And sometimes people might make the very difficult and very complicated and very emotional decision to abort, and that might be better for them and hteir family.  I really don't think, though, that she was saying M&M's specific baby wasn't a blessing or trying to imply that she couldn't keep the baby - just replying to the generic "all babies are a blessing" line. 

Since we are now speaking in general then, I have to say, just because degenerate dirt bags have babies doesn't mean that the babies themselves are not blessings. They may not be considered a blessing to the parents if they were unwanted, but saying the child is not a blessing is like saying that a child born in a 3rd world nation is not a blessing because they were born of poor circumstance. I have to say, as a Christian, that doesn't bode well with me.

Back to the original topic, M&M is not a degenerate dirt bag, she is an educated woman and a good mother, and regardless of her SO and his situation, she is capable to being a fantastic parent, and of celebrating the joy of a beautiful baby. 

Five_letter

XSailoretteX:

Kimmy9j:

Little&BigPea:

mainemommy:

<--- has been to NA, AA, & substance abuse counseling in 3 states. Lives in a town where 50% of my schoolmates are addicts & for sure knows more drug addicts & alcoholics than my ex. 

Stop being a pretentious know it all.  You do not actually know M&M in real life and neither do you know her EX.  Stop lumping everybody into your prejudices.  Not all ex-addicts are worthless, which you seem to be implying.

 La dee F-ing DA.

Her Ex aside.  Its on M&M to do what is best for herself and her children, she has shown she is a very capable stong woman and great Mom.   

I am still trying to figure out how the pregnancy of a healthy, capable, and completely self-sufficient adult has brought out a call for a good ol' fashioned stoning.

"Not every pregnancy should be celebrated"? What's between the lines there? That next week we should do a clicky on the abortion or just that we shouldn't feel bad about dosing out a little shame?

Yep, she has shared that her ex has had issue in the past with drug abuse. I don't think the failing to beat that dead horse a couple more times qualifies as kissing anyone's butt. She's accepted what Mason's father is capable of adding to the situation as acceptable and is happy with her current situation.

 

 

There was nothing between the lines. When my brother's girlfriend got pregnant in highschool ,we didn't celebrate and congratulate and say "this baby is a blessing" Not once. Nothing between the lines there. I don't celebrate every pregnancy, sometimes I find them sad. That was 15 years ago, and I love my niece dearly, but it doesn't change my opinion of the pregnancy.

MM's pregnancy is IMO terrible timing, and just plain old stupid for a woman in the medical field. We all know how babies are made. That being said, what's done is done. I wish her the best.

"Yep, she has shared that her ex has had issue in the past with drug abuse"

This was NOT 10 years ago, it's was friggin Christmas! A relapse that just so happened within 5 months of having their first child. I'm sure a second child isn't going to help with his coping skills. 

The abortion question was asked yesterday. 

JennV514

I asked my mom to watch the baby today so I could go to the dermatologist and have blood work done. In reality I worked out and sat on my couch alone. It was glorious. I knew if I asked her to watch him to give me a break, she would say No. So I lied.

MOONGIRL2467

Wowza!!! Uhh... Why do people feel the need to make such disgusting comments about others lives?? 

 Is it maybe because this is an online message board and you can hide behind a monitor!?!? Think about it.... Would you go up to an acquaintance and make all those comments about their pregnancy knowing as little as you do now? Remember .. It is only a message board.. You don't know EVERYTHING. 

mainemommy

MOONGIRL2467:

Wowza!!! Uhh... Why do people feel the need to make such disgusting comments about others lives?? 

 Is it maybe because this is an online message board and you can hide behind a monitor!?!? Think about it.... Would you go up to an acquaintance and make all those comments about their pregnancy knowing as little as you do now? Remember .. It is only a message board.. You don't know EVERYTHING. 

You are damn straight I would say & HAVE said these exact things to real people in real life. Ask anyone who knows me I dont hide behind the computer. Im real & honest in all forms message board or not. 

Saltina11

The BFP thing was a joke right? Along the lines of the garlic semen thing? If so, well played MM. Well played. 

 

Five_letter

MOONGIRL2467:

Wowza!!! Uhh... Why do people feel the need to make such disgusting comments about others lives?? 

 Is it maybe because this is an online message board and you can hide behind a monitor!?!? Think about it.... Would you go up to an acquaintance and make all those comments about their pregnancy knowing as little as you do now? Remember .. It is only a message board.. You don't know EVERYTHING. 

Is this directed at me?

My niece's mother knows exactly how we all felt at the time.  My friends and I discuss pregnancies all the time. One family member got his wife pregnant, and we were all sad because  we knew that even if they got divorced (they did), we'd be stuck with her forever (or at least 18 years).

MM is perfectly capable of raising two children herself. She seems to have a wonderful support network in place. She's an adult and I wish her nothing but the best. 

 

RubySB3

FFS, is this for realz?  Flames for a bfp?  Shame. Congrats m&m. I know you have shared that there were a lot of circumstances surrounding his slip up and that he has worked hard to stay on track. I don't know him, but I think he deserves some credit. He's around for his son and a large participant in his life. That's more than some of us can say. Life takes unexpected turns and you seem to handle them in stride. I'm thrilled that mason will have a sibling. Wishing your SO continued success, he has a lot of reasons to keep going. If these negative nellies turn out to be right, I know you have the ability to raise these kids on your own and provide for them financially and emotionally. You are excited about this baby and you should be, congrats again. I'm jealous. 

Mrs.Leah.Maria

L&R70707:

Holy hot mess.  Jan 2013 isn't even a board yet and it already has guaranteed drama.

swimiz500

This is all absolutely ridiculous. I don't see how anyone has a right to judge anyone for their reproductive choices, especially when said person is a responsible mother who cares for her child, and is happy for the new addition. If you wouldn't make the same choices, then good, don't. But don't have the audacity to tell M&M how she should feel about her life. I am so, so happy for her, and I know that her DS and this new child will be very lucky to have her as a mother.

AmandaP678

ghostof5letters:

AsOctoberFalls:

I will let DS watch TV, perhaps even lots of TV. I don't think it will rot his brain.

I wish my daughter would watch TV. I try nightly and she's not into it. This annoys the crap out of me. 

Timmy never cared for it until he was almost 2

MOONGIRL2467

Mrs.Leah.Maria:

L&R70707:

Holy hot mess.  Jan 2013 isn't even a board yet and it already has guaranteed drama.

Actually... It shouldn't. The only one due then - is M&M and she clearly isn't The one starting "drama".

AmandaP678

hecallsmecat:

Mason&Mama:

BFP

 At least Mason is dressed for the FFFC. Love the baby legs. He looks bad-a$$.

FWIW, M&M is an adult who is completely capable of making responsible decisions. She seems to be a great mom and I cannot believe people are flaming someone for being pregnant. What it comes down to is this - no matter how much we "know" about each other, we do not know everything. There are tons of people out there who should not be parents, but M&M's SO doesn't seem to be one of these people based on what she has said about him. Everyone has faults and it sounds like he is trying his best to correct his along with her support. I am sure there are things about each of us which, if picked apart and taken out of context of who we are on the whole, would make us seem like bad parents. I am happy for her because babies are awesome. No further judgement because I am not in her shoes, same way I feel about everyone.

Well said!

And congrats!! I'm insanely jealous of all BFPs and wish I could be me too

 

erika1677

L&R70707:

Holy hot mess.  Jan 2013 isn't even a board yet and it already has guaranteed drama.

And YOU'RE our mod?? Nice. 

Manda422

erika1677:

L&R70707:

Holy hot mess.  Jan 2013 isn't even a board yet and it already has guaranteed drama.

And YOU'RE our mod?? Nice. 

 

This.  I was thinking the exact same thing.  How do we get this changed?  What a great unbiased, unoppiniated mod you are! 

JennV514

I think mods are allowed to have opinions. I don't think what she said was even that bad. JMO.

mainemommy

Manda422:

erika1677:

L&R70707:

Holy hot mess.  Jan 2013 isn't even a board yet and it already has guaranteed drama.

And YOU'RE our mod?? Nice. 

 

This.  I was thinking the exact same thing.  How do we get this changed?  What a great unbiased, unoppiniated mod you are! 

The fact that either of you are saying this is disgusting. She's a great mod & had she crossed a line Id agree with you. I believe she's been on these boards far longer than you have & that she's obviously more intelligent too,

IlliniQT

Manda422:

erika1677:

L&R70707:

Holy hot mess.  Jan 2013 isn't even a board yet and it already has guaranteed drama.

And YOU'RE our mod?? Nice. 

 

This.  I was thinking the exact same thing.  How do we get this changed?  What a great unbiased, unoppiniated mod you are! 

Certainly calling a spade a spade is being a HORRIBLE moderator!

CocoBrynne

Manda422:

erika1677:

L&R70707:

Holy hot mess.  Jan 2013 isn't even a board yet and it already has guaranteed drama.

And YOU'RE our mod?? Nice. 

 

This.  I was thinking the exact same thing.  How do we get this changed?  What a great unbiased, unoppiniated mod you are! 

So since she doesn't incourage and praise horribly life decisions regarding innocent kids she's a bad moderator?  Gotcha.

Kimmy9j

CocoBrynne:

Manda422:

erika1677:

L&R70707:

Holy hot mess.  Jan 2013 isn't even a board yet and it already has guaranteed drama.

And YOU'RE our mod?? Nice. 

 

This.  I was thinking the exact same thing.  How do we get this changed?  What a great unbiased, unoppiniated mod you are! 

So since she doesn't incourage and praise horribly life decisions regarding innocent kids she's a bad moderator?  Gotcha.

 

WOW.  Its like I can hear you giggling after you hit post, That is plain ignorant and vapid.  Congrats and bringing this pose down on whole level more.  

I really dont see how M&M "started" any drama that she has already fated a whole other Bump board to unless you are about to announce your BFP

katie4253

Manda422:

erika1677:

L&R70707:

Holy hot mess.  Jan 2013 isn't even a board yet and it already has guaranteed drama.

And YOU'RE our mod?? Nice. 

 

This.  I was thinking the exact same thing.  How do we get this changed?  What a great unbiased, unoppiniated mod you are! 

I don't understand where you think she crossed the line.

Kimmy9j

My FFFC:

 

I really miss KtGirl88 

ghostof5letters

Kimmy9j:

My FFFC:

 

I really miss KtGirl88 

Bless your heart. 

jk4ever

Wow, holy fart bullets. I don't even know what to say, but I will try...

M&M is an educated, hard working, successful, loving mother for starters. And EVEN with all of the trouble her ex has had, she has never denied loving him. So, he isn't perfect, no one is. And, granted their situation is unique and needs some working out, she has been supporting him  in the best ways she knows how, the entire time she has been commenting on it. Be it kicking him out when he needs it, and accepting him and loving him and praising his ongoing recovery when he earns it.

I don't think she expects this to be all rainbows and butterflies, but the fact of the matter is, she is pregnant and happy about it. And quite honestly, I don't think she gives two shiits what any of you think. She is self sufficient and able to take care of these children without an sort of government or monetary assistance. So I don't agree with those who are saying this is a poor life choice. She WANTS and LOVES her children, so how can anything that brings her so much joy, be wrong for her!?!?  I would give more of an eye roll to anyone who is having children and can't take care of them!  

And, finally, CONGRATS M&M! I COULD NOT be more thrilled for you and this amazing, blessed, new addition to your family!  

Nutrguru

jk4ever:

Wow, holy fart bullets.

Buahahaha! Day made. Thanks!

Manda422

Holy sh!t!  I made a typo!  Thanks for pointing that out for me!  Fabulous of you to be the spelling/grammar/typo police!   Have a fabulous night!

Manda422

CocoBrynne:

Manda422:

erika1677:

L&R70707:

Holy hot mess.  Jan 2013 isn't even a board yet and it already has guaranteed drama.

And YOU'RE our mod?? Nice. 

 

This.  I was thinking the exact same thing.  How do we get this changed?  What a great unbiased, unoppiniated mod you are! 

So since she doesn't incourage and praise horribly life decisions regarding innocent kids she's a bad moderator?  Gotcha.

Randomosity or whatever her name is missed this one.   I think you mean "horrible," sweetheart.  Bless your heart for making a grammar/spelling mistake.  

Manda422

mainemommy:

Manda422:

erika1677:

L&R70707:

Holy hot mess.  Jan 2013 isn't even a board yet and it already has guaranteed drama.

And YOU'RE our mod?? Nice. 

 

This.  I was thinking the exact same thing.  How do we get this changed?  What a great unbiased, unoppiniated mod you are! 

The fact that either of you are saying this is disgusting. She's a great mod & had she crossed a line Id agree with you. I believe she's been on these boards far longer than you have & that she's obviously more intelligent too,

Walking into a smelly bathroom is disgusting.   I don't think that really discribes us voicing an opinion about a mod.   Now the opinions some on this board are voicing about M&M; those are disgusting.  But hey, that's MY OPINION, just like you all have YOUR OPINIONS.