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Morph question?

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Has anyone's DH morph improved on a repeat SA?  My DH had a 0% morph and just had his 2nd SA today.  What did your RE suggest to do if you had 0% morph (IUI or IVF)? Thanks!
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  • racheyt0227racheyt0227 member
    MH stayed the same both times (1%) We were told IVF with ICSI.  I don't see how iui would be beneficial at all with 0% morph.


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    04/25/11- 1st consultation with RE (Confirmed PCOS & Anovulation)
    05/09/11-HSG-All clear! 05/13/11-SA-Normal. Found out on 2/14/12, low Morph (1%).
    06/17/11-10 days of Clomid (100, 150) No response.
    07/10/11-03/20/12- 5 Injectable (Follistim) IUI cycles; 4 BFN, 1 C/P. (stims ranged from 11 days to 25 days)
    05/28/12-Diagnosed with Hypothyroidism. 75 mcg Synthroid.

    IVF with ICSI in June/July 2013 = BFP!. Beta # 1 = 123. Beta # 2 = 252. Due March 25th. Baby boy arrived March 27, 2013!

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  • hugmonkeyhugmonkey member
    I believe that DH's morph stayed the same (0%).  My RE said that we would have to go straight to IVF w/ICSI as there was no way DH's sperm would be able to make it to/penetrate an egg on their own.
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    IVF #2: FET 5/4/12 : Beta 5/16/12 BFN

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  • ge0rgege0rge
    My DH likes to say he's a 1%er. Unfortunately, it doesn't apply to his bank account! In our case, the RE said we'd have to have ICSI & IVF.
    Married 07.30.2011 TTC 07.2011 DX DOR 02.12 1st NC-IVF 03.12: RE could not retrieve egg 2nd NC-IVF 04.12: converted to IUI
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  • Ccjones85Ccjones85 member

    DH's count went up but on the 1st SA he had 3% morph and 1% morph and the second SA.

    We tried 2 B2B IUI's but the numbers were so low post wash I didn't really have any hope but I felt like I needed to know that it wouldn't work before moving on and investing so much in IVF/ICSI. If you doctor recommends trying one before moving on (if the morph goes up) I would follow the docs suggestion. You never know what might happen.

    Best of luck with a decision!

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  • DoublePortionDoublePortion member

    Hi! I don't have an answer but saw that you live iBig Smile Do you mind if I ask what Dr you go to? I go to Dr. K. I didn't know if this should have been in a PM, but I haven't figured those out yet! lol


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  • daphallendaphallen member

    imageracheyt0227:
    MH stayed the same both times (1%) We were told IVF with ICSI.  I don't see how iui would be beneficial at all with 0% morph.

    I didn't think IUI would be beneficial either.  She said because I was pregnant before that we should still proceed w/ IUI.  We did and it didn't help.  He is having another one to see what our next step is.  I'm not sure she knows what she is doing. 

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  • racheyt0227racheyt0227 member
    imagedaphallen:

    imageracheyt0227:
    MH stayed the same both times (1%) We were told IVF with ICSI.  I don't see how iui would be beneficial at all with 0% morph.

    I didn't think IUI would be beneficial either.  She said because I was pregnant before that we should still proceed w/ IUI.  We did and it didn't help.  He is having another one to see what our next step is.  I'm not sure she knows what she is doing. 

     

    Hopefully the 2nd SA shows better percentages!


    04/07/11- PCOS Diagnosis w/GYN. Put on Metformin (1500 mgs)
    04/25/11- 1st consultation with RE (Confirmed PCOS & Anovulation)
    05/09/11-HSG-All clear! 05/13/11-SA-Normal. Found out on 2/14/12, low Morph (1%).
    06/17/11-10 days of Clomid (100, 150) No response.
    07/10/11-03/20/12- 5 Injectable (Follistim) IUI cycles; 4 BFN, 1 C/P. (stims ranged from 11 days to 25 days)
    05/28/12-Diagnosed with Hypothyroidism. 75 mcg Synthroid.

    IVF with ICSI in June/July 2013 = BFP!. Beta # 1 = 123. Beta # 2 = 252. Due March 25th. Baby boy arrived March 27, 2013!

    FET #1 - 10/4/14 = BFP!! Beta #1 = 179. Beta # 2 = 499. Due June 22nd.

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  • PennyLane26PennyLane26 member
    Hi! DH had 3 SAs all with 0% morph. I'm sorry if this is not the news you were looking for, but our RE said our best (and only) option was IVF with ICSI. GL!
    dx: MFI 0% morph & low count. Occasional Anovulatory cycles.

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  • candyreesecupcandyreesecup member

    My DH's initial SA had 2% morph, so our RE suggested 3 rounds of IUI.  Our RE suggested him to take antioxidant supplement, so he has been taking them, but I heard that it would take about 3 mom for supplement to work. 

    We just did the first IUI and it turned out that his SA was 0% morph.  I was shocked and had my BFN a couple of days ago.  

    I know they only take 200ish samples of sperm for the critical morp test, so there could be normal ones outside of the sample.  I talked to my RE and our decision is up to us.  He definitely suggests IVF w/ ICSI but he understands the cost, so we are going to try 2 more IUIs.       

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  • rjade9rjade9 member
    Dh's first sa his count was too low so they didn't do a morph, the second time his morph was 1%.  We are doing IVF with ICSI. 
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  • meganfauermeganfauer member
    My DH's first SA was 0% morph and our RE said we had NO choice and had to do IVF and that their was a 0% chance of him improving that number enough. So we moved forward with IVF.  Since then my DH has been retested 3 times with our new RE and his morphology has gone up to 6%. Now we don't know if his first test was a fluke or if he has really improved I am not sure. He is on a concoction of herbal supplements and super foods. Again I have no clue what happened but his did improve and our new RE said with his new #'s we could try IUI. NOw we have not been successful with IUI or IVF so who knows! But i am DOR too. GOod luck 
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    AMH-0.73- DOR 2/2012

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    IUI #4 cancelled due to only one egg responding 
    IUI#5 cancelled on CD 10,  (3) follicules were still very small even on 300 IU's of Follistim. Also found fluid in my uterus from C-section scar
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  • daphallendaphallen member
    Thanks everyone for your input. 
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  • maggie2324maggie2324 member

    Ours was initially 0%, then went to 0.5%, and the best was 1%.

    If morph is the only issue, then IUI is worth a shot regardless of morph. Provided there are at least 5 million motile swimmers post wash, morph only decreases pregnancy rates slightly.

    We didn't get that many, so we are doing IVF w/ICSI. 

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  • BOTB32010BOTB32010 member
    MH's improved by 2%, not enough to get us out of the MFI diagnosis. Our recommendation was IVF with ICSI.
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  • del917del917 member

    Went from a 0.5% to a 5% about a month later....said he wasn't going to waste time doing any more SA's. 

    IUI failed.

    Moved onto IVF/ICSI.

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  • MsGMChickMsGMChick member
    Most of H's samples have 0% morph. One or two had 2%. We've now had 4 failed IUIs and are starting cycle #30. Yeah. I wish I would have listened to our MFI uro and just waited for IVF. With morph that low, IUIs are almost 0% chance of working in a real life setting. 
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  • krissybegskrissybegs member

    My DH's morph is 0% and we were told that our best chance was IVF with ICSI. The RE gave us a 5% chance of IUI working.

    The good news - IVF with ICSI worked and our beautiful little boy will be 4 in July.

    Good luck!

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