Infertility

Unsolicited advice makes me want to scream

With our impending loss, we shared the news with both my mom and mil. And of course, came mil's motherly advice. 

I travel almost every week - mh and I live/work on opposite coasts. No way to avoid this - I work my dream job and there's no way I'd give this up. So after the sympathies, came the advice (read it as blame)  that maybe its: too much travel, or too much time changes, maybe we should cut back on flying. Grrr! Then MH tried to change the subject and mention that since this didn't work out, we are planning a nice long exotic vacation around Thanksgiving. Then the same advice gets thrown out again. Thank goodness I was not in on the convo. Not sure I wouldve held my tongue.  If this was that advice was true then that would make flights attendants and pilots all suffer from IF which I highly doubt. 

What fun craptastic advice have you recently received? 

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Re: Unsolicited advice makes me want to scream

  • If you just stay still you won't miscarry, so stay lying down 24/7
    6 m/c
    Anovulatory cycles, increased Synthroid Diagnosed Sep 2010
    Natural cycle Dec 2010 BFP M/C 6 1/2 Weeks, D&E Jan 2011
    1 Clomid/Ovidrel BFN May 2011
    Natural cycle Aug 2011 BFP M/C 4 Weeks
    1 IUI Sept 2011 BFP M/c 7 weeks
    Provera Dec 2011 BFP M/C 3 Weeks
    DQ ALPHA HLA MATCH, High NK Cells Diagnosed Dec 2011
    IVF March 2012 BFP m/c 4weeks 5 days (IL, Prednisone)
    IVF#2w/DS July 2012 MEGA FAILURE BFN (IL, Dexamethasone)
    Diagnosed No real HLA Match, DQ Beta Triad, High TNF, Low NK Cells
    Oct 2012 Natural Cycle m/c 4wks (Lovenox, Prednisone) 
    Went to Beer Center- high tnf, low lad, implantation failure
    Nov/Dec 2012 LIT Treatment
    Dec 12 Humira
    Jan 2013 BFP
    Humira,LIT,Prednisone, Lovenox, IVIG, Baby Aspirin
    Miracle Born August 2013 Premature

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    Oh good grief! People suck! I am always getting the stop trying so hard, go on vacation, get drunk, don't be so stressed about treatments! And my favorite why don't you just adopt....then you'll get pregnant!  It makes me want to scream also....sigh... The newest gem is once you get pregnant with IVF you won't be able to stop getting pregnant......yea, because I'm sure that'll happen...eye roll
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    TTC# 1 since 5/10
    Me:34 Type 1 Diabetes, Ankylosing Spondylitis, Hypothyroid DH:35 Perfect
    DX: Unexplained IF
    Many IUI's with various meds all BFFN
    IVF #1 11/11 canceled due to OHSS
    IVF #2 Feb/March 2012 ET of 2 on day 3 4/7 BFP! 5/1 u/s blighted ovum
    IVF #3 July 2012 ET of 3 on day 3 7/24 BFP!
    Healthy baby girl born at 36w4d on 3/9/13

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    TTC #2
    IVF #4 May/June 2014 ER 6/4 18R 8M 8F ET 6/9 1 blast, 2 frosties
    Beta 6/18 BFFN

    FET of 2 blasts 7/24...BFP!
    Healthy baby girl born at 36w3d on 3/17/15

    TTC#3
    IVF #5 June 2018- PGS planned, no surviving embryos
    IVF #6 August 2018- ET of 2 on day 3 - Chemical pregnancy
    IVF #7 August 2019-....?
  • imageluvboston:
    If you just stay still you won't miscarry, so stay lying down 24/7

    Hah! That's just pathetic. Even if they gave me 9 additional months for maternity, I can't see how lying down that long would be healthy. Go smack that person for me! please :) 

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  • From a fellow IVF'er, only person I have told as I thought she would understand..... that if this cycle does not work that a friend of her's (same sex relationship) used a turkey baster after their failed IVF and voila! they got pregnant. WTF!!!!

     

    Multiple ectopics, 2 failed IVF's
    IVF #1: Did not get to ET, embies all failed PGD (major chromosomal defects)
    IVF #2: We have 2 chromosomally perfect embies as a result of PGD (Boy/Girl) 1 failed the thaw (Girl) Transferred 1, yet ended as a c/p
    Thought it was the end of our TTC Journey 6/20/2012
    SHOCK BFP 9/28/2012: IT'S A BOY! and everything is normal !!!!!!

    Little A born 38w 2d on 05/23/13 and is a true miracle for this IF Vet!
     

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  • (((HUGS)))

    That's horrible that she would imply you're to blame!!  I love YH's idea of staying away for the holidays.  I'd skip seeing her for several holidays if that's how she feels.

    IVF #3 = Feb 2012
    beta#1 3/21 (14dp3dt)=413, beta#2 3/23 (16dp3dt)=785, u/s 4/11
    EDD 11/25/12
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    TTC #1 Since 4/2010, Cycle 30
    Positive for HLA-B27, I'm a mutant :p
    Testing - Me ok, gluten issue? DH - borderline count, low motility
    4/28/11 IUI#1 = BFP!(5/25), EDD 2/2/12 - m/c 5w3d
    7/3, 7/31, 9/25 - IUI#2-4=BFN
    IVF#1 - 1 blast = BFP!! (12/30), EDD 9/9/12, confirmed c/p 4w2d
    FET#1 3/2/12 - 2 blasts =BFP!! EDD 11/18/12, us#1 = twins! Confirmed m/c 5w6d
    4/20-surprise BFP and another c/p 4w2d
    FET#2 7/16/12 - 2 blasts = BFN
    FET#3 8/20/12 - 1 blast - BFP!! Beta #1-2=177, 354
    1st u/s 5w6d, one beautiful little HB :), 2nd u/s 146bpm
    baby girl born 5/10/13

    TTC#2 since 12/17/2014, Cycle 8
    Repeat Testing...FSH=12, AMH=3.8, AFC=28. 
    IUI#5 5/10/15- c/p?
    IVF#2 8/19/15 - cancelled due to cysts
    IVF#2 take two 10/2015 - 5 blasts frozen
    FET#4 12/11/2015 - BFN - 4 blasts remaining
    FET#5 2/18/16 - BFP!!!  Beta1-3, 126, 250, 745!!

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  • imageRoxie5739:

    From a fellow IVF'er, only person I have told as I thought she would understand..... that if this cycle does not work that a friend of her's (same sex relationship) used a turkey baster after their failed IVF and voila! they got pregnant. WTF!!!!

     

    Is it bad that I am now trying to imagine the steps used for said turkey baster process?  If MH ever pulled a turkey baster out - real or suggested, I'd probably pee myself from laughter then slap him with it. And seriously - isnt the peni it's own turkey Baster like tool? 

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  • I'm sorry for your loss:<

    Over 5 years I have heard the stupidest sh!it. The it was God's plan, you are trying to hard, you aren't trying hard enough, just adopt, why do you even want kids, I could go and and on. My favorite though was women have m/c all the time, you just get over it. Or so and so had 5 before she went on to have 6 kids.  WTF?? I hate stupid people.

    Nothing you did could have caused you m/c. Hugs to you.

    PAIF and SAIF Always Welcome!
    TTC since 2007
    6 IUIs, 3 IVFs, and 2 m/c :< PCOS, Blood Clotting Disorder & MFI
    IVF #2 Aug 2011 is a BFN:<
    IVF #3 March 2012 is a BFN
    Not sure what to do now. Sad and lost.
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  • I'm sorry for your loss

    The ridiculous comments around every corner have literally put me over the edge this week.  People have absolutely no idea, but what's worse is they are  CONVINCED that they know all about it.  I have taken after others on here and am avoiding Easter with both families and can't wait!  Hope you can enjoy your weekend a bit!

    ~ Me, 30 DH, 32 ~ TTC since Oct 2009 septum resection 3/2010 stage IV endo 8/2011 IVF #1 1/25/12, 2 transferred, 2 frozen - BFN FET 2/22/12, 2 transferred - BFN IVF#2 5/12, transferred 3, froze 5, BFP! Beta 1: 151, Beta 2: 282 Cerclage placed @ 17 weeks due to shortening cervix, modified bed rest until delivery SAIF/PAIF always welcome image It's a girl! ~ Clare was born 1/31/13
  • imageluvboston:
    If you just stay still you won't miscarry, so stay lying down 24/7

    I think I'd want to throat punch someone if they said this to me!

    Me:40 AMA, DH:36 0% morph, TTC#1;
    BFP#1 4/2011, MMC 6/2011 11wks Trisomy 13;
    BFP#2 11/2011, CP
    FSH: 17.9, AMH: 2.2
    IVF#1 w/ICSI: ER 4/3: 5R,4M,4F
    ET 4/6 All 4 (1-8A+, 2-8A-, 1-3A) BFP#3
    Two weeks of beta hell = Blighted Ovum
    IVF#2 Aug/Sept: ER 8/27: 4R,3M,3F
    ET 8/30 (1-8A+, 1-6A+)
    Beta#1 9/10: 350; Beta#2 9/12: 796; Beta#3 9/20: 9155
    Expecting Boy/Girl Twins! My babies were born 4/23/13 at 36w1d!

     
     

  • What fun craptastic advice have you recently received?  

    Love this!  Most recently I got the " Well doesn't IVF take a few tries before it works" and the dreaded "Don't worry when it's meant to be it will happen"  

    I don't know if this counts as advice but everytime I hear people say these things I think in my head...Can I slap them yet?? LOL 

     

    Confirmed Pregnancy 9/18/2010 M/C 10/27/2010 BLIGHTED OVUM 10/2011 - HSG 2 blocked tubes 11/4/2011 - Lap Surgery - Extensive tubal disease (tubes opened) 1/3/12 - Repeat HSG (L tube open, R tube blocked) 1/15/12 - R tube removed Started Stim Injections 2/17/12 Follistim 300iu and Low Dose HCG 10 units Trigger - 2/25/12 ER 2/27/12 ET - 5 dt - 3/3/12 1 blast transferred 9 frosties BETA #1 - 626 :) Beta #2 - 2470 :) Beta #3 - 5470 3/29/12 - 6wks 3 days - no yolk sac, embie, or hb :( Blighted Ovum 8/3/12 - FET #1 1 flickering blast transferred 8/9/12 - POAS + 8/15/12 - Beta #1 1400 Beta #2 3200 8/20/12 - U/S 5 wks 1 day Yolk Sac seen 8/28/12 - 6wks 2 days - Heartbeat 116 9/4/12 - 7wks 3 days - HB 136 YAY! TEAM BLUE! Alex was born 4/15/13 5:09pm 6lb 10oz 20in!

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  • I am so sorry to see you back here!  ((huge hugs))


    In regards to unsolicited advice... My doozies recently have been the unsolicited opinions from my MIL.  The first was... ?Why on earth did you wait so long??, which almost sent me through the roof!  Did she forget that her son had a severe back injury that took almost four and half years to recover from???  Then came, ?Well there?s always adoption?. Arrggghhhhh!!!


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    Me 42, DH 47

    Dx = AMA/DOR, MFI

    IVF/ICSI #1 = BFN

    IVF/ICSI #2 = BFP; early loss

    IVF/ICSI #3 (DE) = BFP; early loss

    FET = BFN

    IVF/ICSI #4 (DE w/ CCS) = BFP

    Beta #1 @ 10dp6dt = 265; Beta #2 @ 14dp6dt = 1251. 

    1st U/S @ 6w2d showed one perfect little heartbeat! 

    2nd U/S @ 7w2d. HB 132 & everything measuring on track.

    Our beautiful little girl arrived January 2015!


  • Are you sure you even want kids? My kids are awful and expensive. Think of the money and headaches you will save. Really? 
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    I was tucking a 5y old cousin into bed last night and he was asking me how babies are born. His mom came in and they started talking about how only girls have babies but once he was older and married he could help make a baby or he could adopt a baby because babies come to families in different ways. His next thought was..."or you could just find a baby!"

    This wasn't really advice, but it made me laugh. If only it was that easy....
    Anyone remember "Murmel, murmel, murmel" by Robert Munsch?

  • I didn't get anything fantastically craptastic until this past Friday - right after i told my mom that IVF #1 didn't work, she said - why don't you let your sister be your surrogate?  I literally hung up the phone. WTF???????
    Me: 34 - low ovarian reserve
    DH: 40 - no issues  

    3 failed IUI's 

    IVF #1 3/12 - 13 eggs, 9 fertilized,  2 transferred (1 grade 2 blast, 1 early blast), no frosties, 3/30/12 - 9dp5dt spotting, BFNs

    IVF #2. 7/12 - 18 days of stims, 3 mature eggs, 3 fertilized (ICSI), 3 transferred (9, 8, 7 cell) on day 3.  First beta - 8/21/12 = 105, beta #2 - 8/23/12 = 268, beta #3 - 8/30/12 = 2,352. 2nd u/s - 9/4/12. Baby Boy born 5/1/2013.

    IVF #3 Now (12/13). AMH is very low - 0.19. ER (12/5) 12 eggs, 10 mature, 7 fertilized using ICSI. 3 transferred (8,8,8 cell - all grade 2) on day 3. First beta - 12/21/13 = 126, beta #2 - 12/23/13 = 400, beta #3 - na (office was closed for new year's). First sonogram - TWINS aka OMG! -  


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