Naming after father or grandfather rules

ChristyML

https://www.behindthename.com/faq.php?type=names

It says here that if you name your son after your husband's father (exactly, first, middle, and last names) your son would be the second (II). If he is named after your husband, name for name, your son is Jr. 

The website I linked is more of a first name thing, but it does have that rule I mentioned above. I was wondering what the exact rule was, and I'm glad that my son might be the second, not Jr. I don't like the nickname Jr....=(

Hope this helps! 

blush64

ChristyML:

https://www.behindthename.com/faq.php?type=names

It says here that if you name your son after your husband's father (exactly, first, middle, and last names) your son would be the second (II). If he is named after your husband, name for name, your son is Jr. 

The website I linked is more of a first name thing, but it does have that rule I mentioned above. I was wondering what the exact rule was, and I'm glad that my son might be the second, not Jr. I don't like the nickname Jr....=(

Hope this helps! 

It's not really a rule you have to follow. I know sons named after their father who simply didn't use Jr. They both had the same name and used the same name.

ChristyML

blush64:

ChristyML:

https://www.behindthename.com/faq.php?type=names

It says here that if you name your son after your husband's father (exactly, first, middle, and last names) your son would be the second (II). If he is named after your husband, name for name, your son is Jr. 

The website I linked is more of a first name thing, but it does have that rule I mentioned above. I was wondering what the exact rule was, and I'm glad that my son might be the second, not Jr. I don't like the nickname Jr....=(

Hope this helps! 

 

It's not really a rule you have to follow. I know sons named after their father who simply didn't use Jr. They both had the same name and used the same name.

Yeah. I didn't really mean it to be "You have to follow this rule exactly", I posted this for those who were confused by it. I had heard several different ways, but I liked this.

mlf625

I've never heard of that before.  My brother is a II and is named after our father (same first, middle, and last).  My mom also hated the Jr. thing and refused to give her son the name unless he'd be referred to as II instead.

zaramarie81

I have heard of this before! "Jr" definitely strongly implies "My dad's name is the same as mine." I do not think it's appropriate to use "Jr" for a child named after a grandparent as it's almost confusing/misleading. "II" works better.

 And I too don't love the nickname "Jr" although you don't have to use that nickname. My father is a "Jr" and the "Jr" just serves as clarity for legal purposes. But they both go by their first names in everyday life.. have never heard anyone call my father "Junior!"

 

monksmama

My grandfather, father and brother share the same name and no one has ever gone by junior.

My Grandfather goes by Dan, my father goes by his middle name and my brother goes by Danny. (in family settings, otherwise he just uses Dan.)

 

Keri Marie

Thanks for posting this. When doing all the family genealogy I get REALLY frustrated with names that don't follow traditional rules like this. More people need to know.

ChristyML

Keri Marie:

Thanks for posting this. When doing all the family genealogy I get REALLY frustrated with names that don't follow traditional rules like this. More people need to know.

I thought so too. I think it's a lot more sophisticated.  

ColoradoJess

FWIW, my dad (who is 66) was named exactly after his father, and he's a II, not a Jr. My great-grandfather died long before I was born, so I don't remember his name, but I know it wasn't John (which is my grandfather and father's name.) Possibly Grandma was breakin' the rules - she was known to do that, what with her college education and job with 2 young children in 1950.  

RosnyBelinda

I don't know anything about the "proper" way to use 'II' vs. 'Jr'.  But just because your son is a 'Jr.' doesn't mean his nickname has to actually be 'Jr'.  My uncle used that reasoning when naming his son.  He didn't want anyone calling him 'Juuunior' (that's how he says it) so he went with the 'II' instead.  My brother is a 'Jr' and I have never heard him actually called 'Jr'.  The only nickname I've ever heard him called is OJ (first initial and Jr) and even then, it's only my mother I've heard doing that.  The rest of us call him by him first name.  All that to say, you give your child the nickname you want them to have.