"Brat Ban"

bethyla

What do you guys think about the "brat ban?'  (Not letting children in certain public places)

I read a co-worker's blog and she feels like children should not be allowed in any restaurant that serves alcohol.  She also believes there should be separate "family friendly flights/airlines.  She does not have any children. 

Are there any public places you think children should be banned from?  Do you feel differently about this now after having children? 

MarSamWhitney

No, I dont think they should be banned. I have just as much of a right to take my family to these places as people without children.

That being said, W was being too wild last night and screaching at a resteraunt, so we left.  Its called common curtosey.

SweetHurricane

bethyla:

I read a co-worker's blog and she feels like children should not be allowed in any restaurant that serves alcohol.  She also believes there should be separate "family friendly flights/airlines.  She does not have any children.   

Say what? If you want a kid free alcohol experience, it's called a bar.

I actually wouldn't have any problem with a seperate flight as long as the fare was equal (I don't think it should be REQUIRED though). It might actually be nice to be surrounded by people who are understanding of your situation.

DD has never had a melt down in public (yet), but we've already discussed that if she flips out, I will go out to the car with her and DH will get our meals packed up and paid for.

Doodle2011

Um, everyone was a kid once.  People need to be a little more tolerant of those whom they deem annoying.  I only wish I could make sweeping bans of annoying fellow humans from my line of sight. 

bethyla

It was said kids belong in places like McDonalds only. 

I also had a fb "friend" who posted a rant about a woman with 5 children in starbucks who did not belong there.  Her kids were loud and taking away from his enjoyment of coffee.  (There was so much craziness in his post.  It was what prompted me to leave fb for lent). 

I obvioulsy have very strong feelings about this since I am a mother.  But, I don't remember ever feeling this way.  I always felt bad for women with screaming children.  Or, I enjoyed watching kids throw their food across the restaurant. 

 

SH - that's a good idea to have a meltdown plan.

ffejsGirl

SweetHurricane:

bethyla:

I read a co-worker's blog and she feels like children should not be allowed in any restaurant that serves alcohol.  She also believes there should be separate "family friendly flights/airlines.  She does not have any children.   

Say what? If you want a kid free alcohol experience, it's called a bar.

I actually wouldn't have any problem with a seperate flight as long as the fare was equal (I don't think it should be REQUIRED though). It might actually be nice to be surrounded by people who are understanding of your situation.

DD has never had a melt down in public (yet), but we've already discussed that if she flips out, I will go out to the car with her and DH will get our meals packed up and paid for.

Pretty much all of this!

Honestly I remember thinking it'd be nicer if people didn't bring their kids out to a really nice restaurant at 8pm on Saturday date night. However, I never would have voiced that opinion. And now having children I absolutely believe I have the right to have my child with me any place I choose fit. Of course I'm still a person that would rather get a babysitter than take the kids with H and I to a nice restaurant on a Saturday night.

This stuff reminds me of the post on 12-24 about smoking = child abuse. I agree that things like a screaming child in a movie theater or a 12 hour flight and smoking around your kid is awful. I do NOT agree that government should step in to ban these things in the private home or in privately owned restaurants/airline flights. 

broccolitree

lol that my kid shouldn't accompany us to Olive Garden.  I'm sure we're dragging down the caliber of clientele at Chili's, though.  What a high set of standards your coworker has.

bethyla

broccolitree:

lol that my kid shouldn't accompany us to Olive Garden.  I'm sure we're dragging down the caliber of clientele at Chili's, though.  What a high set of standards your coworker has.

 

Oh, you have no idea.  She is a real piece of work.

CaniacMom

There are very few places that I think children should be completely banned from - R-rated moveis, bars, strip clubs, group/club meetings meant specifically for adults...

The only way children learn how to behave in public is through practice.  Justin was excellent about going out to eat and behaving & we are working hard on the same skills with Joshua who basically eats from the second we are seated until the moment we are packing everything up to leave.  If the flow of food stops we have trouble.  I bring lots of snacks to keep him distracted until we get the meal.

Anyways those kids people are trying to ban from places may be the doctor who will save their life one day. 

RedZee

CaniacMom:

There are very few places that I think children should be completely banned from - R-rated moveis, bars, strip clubs, group/club meetings meant specifically for adults...

The only way children learn how to behave in public is through practice.  Justin was excellent about going out to eat and behaving & we are working hard on the same skills with Joshua who basically eats from the second we are seated until the moment we are packing everything up to leave.  If the flow of food stops we have trouble.  I bring lots of snacks to keep him distracted until we get the meal.

Anyways those kids people are trying to ban from places may be the doctor who will save their life one day. 

Exactly - kids have to know what is in the world outside of McDonald's.

Children are small humans, you can't ban them from places. I like Doodle's point - you can't just ban all the people you find annoying.

Anyway, we wouldn't go many places if we had to spend another $15/hour on a babysitter. I'm not sure most businesses would think this is a good plan.

freeatlast2014

I have definitely changed my mind on this since becoming a mom. I totally found (and sometimes still do) other people's kids annoying. But since I love my own so much I want him everywhere I go!

I wouldn't take him to a nice place late on a weekend, but if we wanted to go to a nice place I would opt for an earlier seating (say 5 or 6) when there are mostly old folks who love to see little ones anyway! Or, leave him with one of his 5 million grandparents.

However, I may change my mind when he starts the terrible 2's!!