Can I get some clarification here?

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MamaPajama2010:

jillybean800:

It's ok if you disagree with me. But I just think that call-outs are something that probably would be better suited for a pm. Then that person would have just explained to the other and it probably would just end.  I also think that lying because you are embarrassed is kind of natural (as opposed to pretending you have a fetus in you, haha).  I just think the thread kind of quickly turned into a "and who does she think she is posting so much" which was more mean-spirited than a "why did you lie" kind of thing which is more legitimate.  And I guess that's where I saw it get more out of hand and all I kept thinking about was that if it was me I would feel so bad about myself.

Look, it's just that I see a lot of internet bullying (high school girls...need I say more?) and I see what it does to these young girls.  When it gets personal I feel bad because I can't help but think if it was me, and people started saying that the stuff I post is stupid and inappropriate, I would feel terrible. That's all.  And it's fine if you disagree with it, I am not trying to be mean or snarky in what I am saying either.

Hope that's ok

 

No, I totally get what you are saying and I totally agree. I think that the thread went overboard, too. The only thing I disagreed on was that several people (not just you) were brushing it off as not legit or nbd. Lying because you are embarrassed might be natural, but it doesn't mean it is right. I don't appreciate it no matter what the motives are. I agree that bullying is wrong, but I think that everyone needs to remember that it goes both ways (not directed at you, Jilly). I know I already said this, but if someone says it is bullying to say "wow, you are so annoying" but then turns around to the bully and says "wow, you are such a biiitch"-- what kind of message is that sending?

Yeah, what MPJ said.  I you jilly!

--halo--

We may not all agree on the definition of snark. But, can we all please agree that this is one BIG ARSE QUOTE!! Dang, womiches, my fingers are cramping from scrolling, edit this shiz! lol

jillybean800

sofamonkey:

MamaPajama2010:

jillybean800:

It's ok if you disagree with me. But I just think that call-outs are something that probably would be better suited for a pm. Then that person would have just explained to the other and it probably would just end.  I also think that lying because you are embarrassed is kind of natural (as opposed to pretending you have a fetus in you, haha).  I just think the thread kind of quickly turned into a "and who does she think she is posting so much" which was more mean-spirited than a "why did you lie" kind of thing which is more legitimate.  And I guess that's where I saw it get more out of hand and all I kept thinking about was that if it was me I would feel so bad about myself.

Look, it's just that I see a lot of internet bullying (high school girls...need I say more?) and I see what it does to these young girls.  When it gets personal I feel bad because I can't help but think if it was me, and people started saying that the stuff I post is stupid and inappropriate, I would feel terrible. That's all.  And it's fine if you disagree with it, I am not trying to be mean or snarky in what I am saying either.

Hope that's ok

 

No, I totally get what you are saying and I totally agree. I think that the thread went overboard, too. The only thing I disagreed on was that several people (not just you) were brushing it off as not legit or nbd. Lying because you are embarrassed might be natural, but it doesn't mean it is right. I don't appreciate it no matter what the motives are. I agree that bullying is wrong, but I think that everyone needs to remember that it goes both ways (not directed at you, Jilly). I know I already said this, but if someone says it is bullying to say "wow, you are so annoying" but then turns around to the bully and says "wow, you are such a biiitch"-- what kind of message is that sending?

Yeah, what MPJ said.  I you jilly!

Aw, I love you both too.  I know that sometimes I can be annoying when I take a conservative view on internet snark stuffs (that's the official term, btw) or seem to rush to say "let's not do this".  To be more specific about what I said above, I think it comes from the fact that one of my fave students attempted suicide b/c of email harassment (it still scares me to think about it) And don't get me wrong, I don't think this was harassment or anything, it just kind of makes me extra nervous, you know?

Cheekers2010

Let me say first that I haven't yet read the other responses because I want to say what I think without influence.

IRL I have a very dry sense of humor.  I've always been sarcastic.  A few years ago I decided to tone down my sarcasm because a lot of times people didn't get that I was joking around.  I think that's what can happen here, too.  I personally like sarcastic and cynical comments. But I think that when snarky comments are made it needs to be very obvious that it is not meant seriously.  I don't like rude comments and I don't like how people say mean things that they would never say in real life.  

jillybean800

--halo--:

We may not all agree on the definition of snark. But, can we all please agree that this is one BIG ARSE QUOTE!! Dang, womiches, my fingers are cramping from scrolling, edit this shiz! lol

Heh heh, sorry 

MamaPajama2010

Jilly, you definitely don't have to apologize for being who you are. The world needs more peacemakers!:)  I'm sorry that your student went through something so horrible, and I can definitely see how that would influence how you feel about where to draw the line in these kinds of situations.

jillybean800

MamaPajama2010:

Jilly, you definitely don't have to apologize for being who you are. The world needs more peacemakers!:)  I'm sorry that your student went through something so horrible, and I can definitely see how that would influence how you feel about where to draw the line in these kinds of situations.

Thanks for understanding Ok, off to shop now! 

Cheekers2010

See I should always read the other comments.  You all went off to have an interesting convo and I blathered nonsense.  Sigh

Off to TJs.   

jarebearsmom

jillybean800:

It's ok if you disagree with me. But I just think that call-outs are something that probably would be better suited for a pm. Then that person would have just explained to the other and it probably would just end.  I also think that lying because you are embarrassed is kind of natural (as opposed to pretending you have a fetus in you, haha).  I just think the thread kind of quickly turned into a "and who does she think she is posting so much" which was more mean-spirited than a "why did you lie" kind of thing which is more legitimate.  And I guess that's where I saw it get more out of hand and all I kept thinking about was that if it was me I would feel so bad about myself.

Look, it's just that I see a lot of internet bullying (high school girls...need I say more?) and I see what it does to these young girls.  When it gets personal I feel bad because I can't help but think if it was me, and people started saying that the stuff I post is stupid and inappropriate, I would feel terrible. That's all.  And it's fine if you disagree with it, I am not trying to be mean or snarky in what I am saying either.

Hope that's ok

 

Can I just add that had it been a PM, I wouldn't have lied. And Mama P I know that is no excuse and I am truly sorry. I have never lied to you girls before and I am not that type of person. I know that by lying I probably lost some credibility but I hope we can move forward like everyone said in the post from yesterday.

And I do agree with MamaP. A lie is a lie. It may be easier to forgive someone for lying out of embarrassment than someone lying about a child but it was still wrong and I should have owned up to it from the beginning and admit that I DD's out of embarrassment.

MrsDe2008

Just my 2 cents. Everyone interprets things differently...whether said in person or written on a message board. Everyone has different feelings, different sense of humors, different personalities etc. (You get my drift). Sometimes people will be offended by what others say and some won't care. As for lying, I don't agree with it, but a little white lie so you don't feel embarrassed about something, is no big deal to me. If you are going to blatantly lie about something, like you were Miss USA or some BS like that, then you're just an idiot and not worth me commenting on. You'll never make everyone happy all of the time...that's just life. But, this is a community board and I feel people are here for others support and opinions. No one has the right to tell anyone they can not or should not post here. If you don't like what someone has to say, ignore them...it's that easy.

Cheekers2010

justbeachy109:

Kellog+1:

See I should always read the other comments.  You all went off to have an interesting convo and I blathered nonsense.  Sigh

Off to TJs.   

Don't be silly. That wasn't nonsense. I liked what you said.

Thanks Beachy!  I sometimes think I suppress my natural sarcasm too much and come off as so very very serious (say that in a silly voice).

LovesMM

jarebearsmom:

jillybean800:

It's ok if you disagree with me. But I just think that call-outs are something that probably would be better suited for a pm. Then that person would have just explained to the other and it probably would just end.  I also think that lying because you are embarrassed is kind of natural (as opposed to pretending you have a fetus in you, haha).  I just think the thread kind of quickly turned into a "and who does she think she is posting so much" which was more mean-spirited than a "why did you lie" kind of thing which is more legitimate.  And I guess that's where I saw it get more out of hand and all I kept thinking about was that if it was me I would feel so bad about myself.

Look, it's just that I see a lot of internet bullying (high school girls...need I say more?) and I see what it does to these young girls.  When it gets personal I feel bad because I can't help but think if it was me, and people started saying that the stuff I post is stupid and inappropriate, I would feel terrible. That's all.  And it's fine if you disagree with it, I am not trying to be mean or snarky in what I am saying either.

Hope that's ok

 

Can I just add that had it been a PM, I wouldn't have lied. And Mama P I know that is no excuse and I am truly sorry. I have never lied to you girls before and I am not that type of person. I know that by lying I probably lost some credibility but I hope we can move forward like everyone said in the post from yesterday.

And I do agree with MamaP. A lie is a lie. It may be easier to forgive someone for lying out of embarrassment than someone lying about a child but it was still wrong and I should have owned up to it from the beginning and admit that I DD's out of embarrassment.

This is the only thing I'm going to say about the whole issue and then that's it. I may or may not come back.  #1 I'm a scasatic person, always have been always will be. If you don't like it, sorry but I won't change me for anyone. My post to JBM wasn't in malice. If it were I would have done more than just ask if she DD'd the post. It would have been met with something more sarcastic like, "OH DID YOU DROPPED THIS!!!"

All this talk about popularity is because that is what you (the general you) are making it out to be. And the generalizations of "Meany nasty people" is just as bad as what you are accusing other people of doing. You think people "come out of the woodwork" but thats only how it appears to be. We are all busy and to be honest there aren't that many posts on here that really interesting and incite a discussion. When there are, you see people come back because its' something that gets them motivated to make a post. So perceptions are one thing and reality is another. At this point in our babies lives where things slow down the board will too. Just wait til potty training time starts and the shiit might hit the fan.... literally.

 

/drops mic

lilmgirl

Out this entire thread, this all I came out with:

 

OhSewCrafty:

Everyone jst follow these two rules:

#1 - assume best intentions.

#2 - don't be a d#ck. 

Shiiit.  Oops, was that me being snarky?

I know I have a brash personality at times and really, I'm not going to censor who I am to not offend the delicate flowers of the board.  I'm fine with people thinking I'm a biatch, but for every person who thinks that, there's one that I make smile deep down behind all the black stuff.

And for realz - EDIT  YOUR QUOTES!!

Focker out.

OhSewCrafty

lilmgirl:

Out this entire thread, this all I came out with:

 

OhSewCrafty:

Everyone jst follow these two rules:

#1 - assume best intentions.

#2 - don't be a d#ck. 

Shiiit.  Oops, was that me being snarky?

I know I have a brash personality at times and really, I'm not going to censor who I am to not offend the delicate flowers of the board.  I'm fine with people thinking I'm a biatch, but for every person who thinks that, there's one that I make smile deep down behind all the black stuff.

And for realz - EDIT  YOUR QUOTES!!

Focker out.

Its the one and only commandment needed. lol 

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lilmgirl:

Out this entire thread, this all I came out with:

 

OhSewCrafty:

Everyone jst follow these two rules:

#1 - assume best intentions.

#2 - don't be a d#ck. 

Shiiit.  Oops, was that me being snarky?

I know I have a brash personality at times and really, I'm not going to censor who I am to not offend the delicate flowers of the board.  I'm fine with people thinking I'm a biatch, but for every person who thinks that, there's one that I make smile deep down behind all the black stuff.

And for realz - EDIT  YOUR QUOTES!!

Focker out.

I doesn't know how to.  Every time I try to, I fluck it up & it gives me some "you're too stupid to be on the interwebs" error.  I feel shame & then I ugly cry. 

Cheekers2010

lilmgirl:

Out this entire thread, this all I came out with:

Shiiit.  Oops, was that me being snarky?

I know I have a brash personality at times and really, I'm not going to censor who I am to not offend the delicate flowers of the board.  I'm fine with people thinking I'm a biatch, but for every person who thinks that, there's one that I make smile deep down behind all the black stuff.

And for realz - EDIT  YOUR QUOTES!!

Focker out.

Smilz deep down inside.

OhSewCrafty

sofamonkey:

I doesn't know how to.  Every time I try to, I fluck it up & it gives me some "you're too stupid to be on the interwebs" error.  I feel shame & then I ugly cry. 

LOL @ ugly cry.

Can't be worse than the ugliest crier out there.