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Recurrent chemical pregnancies....Answers anyone??

Hello! So I just recently had my second chemical pregnancy back to back with no mensus in between. Just because I am pushing testing the doctor is going to start doing testing but of course since we are all soooo good at being negative Im afraid they wont find anything and that I will never be able to have a sticky baby! :( Which devistates me beyond belief! Im only 23 years old and doc keeps saying your so healthy because I am so what is the deal??

He is going to run the basic phospholipid screenings and we are going to do an hsg here in the next few weeks. Than step 3 is chromosomal analysis (if nothing is positive before that).

 Any advice? Anyone go through this? Ive never been told anything was wrong with me before like I said Im healthy and fit and young so Im boggled. Doctor is confident which scares me even more for false hopes. DH is confused as all could be and we just want answers. We need to have patience we know, but come on we all know thats super hard! Im getting pregnant....but why isnt it sticking???

 THANKS LADIES!! HOPE TO JOIN YOU ALL SOON :)

Me: 24 DH: 27 12/7/2011- Faint BFP #1- 12/18/2011- early m/c at 5 weeks- CP 1/30/2012- Faint BFP #2- 2/17/2012-early miscarriage at 6 weeks- CP RLP done- 1 copy C77T hetero MTHFR-Slight hypothyroid-normal HSG. 8/2012 and 9/2012 Clomid + TI= BFN 10/2012- follistim 7.5 and IUI #1- BFN (pressured into this IUI) 12/2012-BFP #3- 2 days later started bleeding. 3rd CP. 1/18/2013 BFP #4. Beta #1- 14.7(10dpo) 99.5(13dpo) 263 15(dpo).STICK LITTLE PEANUT- WE LOVE YOU!

Re: Recurrent chemical pregnancies....Answers anyone??

  • Hey there, I've had 4 early losses with a LC right in between. Have you had your hormone levels checked? I know how you feel about your dr...he convinced me my first one was a fluke and tried to pass the second one off as well since like you I was pretty young.  I finally started seeing an re and he determined the problem was either genetic or hormonal. (genetics came back fine)

     

    I hope you get some answers soon with this testing.  You're not alone.

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  • Start with your basic testing and go from there. I would check clotting disorders before genetic testing, JMO. I would also stop TTC during the testing process, get the full picture first. Quite honestly I have only heard of OB's giving the go ahead to try without waiting 1 cycle if age or health is a factor. Not judging you at all it just surprises me. 

    I get being frustrated, I had my first m/c at 24, DS at 25, Nichols (stillborn at 27), m/c 6 wks and m/c at 15 wks at 28. You name the test I have had it, only one thing came back and it is rather common. Accordingly they aren't sure why I have had any losses, a few guesses but that is all. You may consider going to see a specialist after getting the first round of testing done.  Also, do you know your blood type if your are RH neg? Things that that are tested at 8 wks so I would suggest those standard tests as well. 

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  • What PP said....I had 6 chemical pregnancies all ending before 6 weeks when we TTC #2.  4 of them were in a row :( 

    We couldn't find anything wrong...I do have the MTHFR mutation but was on baby aspirin.  My uterus was fine (no polyps or septum to inhibit implantation).  I was on progesterone "just in case" it was a luteal phase defect although my progesterone levels were always fine.  Our next testing option was a karotype for a translocation genetic issue but it was going to be $1000 to test us and we weren't sure if we even wanted to know.

    After #6 I was at a total loss...thought I may never have another child.  We did clomid after a break cycle and I got pregnant again with a healthy baby. 

    I will probably never know what this happened so many times to us and we don't plan on trying again for #3.

    Good luck to you and I hope you find out what's going on.  I think my OB was sort of "meh, it's probably just bad luck" after 2 losses.  After #3 he took it more serious.  After 4 losses I was refered to an RE. 

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  • Just wanted to say hi and I'm so sorry for your loss.  I'm glad your Dr is confident... I'm sure he's seen a lot over the years and if he's confident that means he's probably seen women come back from losses like yours and have a successful pregnancy.  That's great that he's running bloodwork and doing an HSG, etc.  You might not find out the reason... and it might not be any one reason.  My Dr. did want us to wait at least one full normal cycle before we started trying again, so you might ask him about that.
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  • I had two early losses/chemical pregnancies in a row.  My Doc wouldn't do any chromosonal testing until after 3 losses because it really could just be the wrong egg meeting the wrong sperm on the wrong day... even twice in a row.

    We tested my Thyriod after the second since it was a pretty easy test to do.  Everything checked out fine.

    My Doc gave me an Rx for Prometrium, a progesterone supplement.  There aren't many answers as to whether or not low progesterone causes MC or just that progesterone drops during a MC, but since my progesterone was low the one time they tested it my doc wanted me to have it as an option.  I filled my Rx two weeks ago when I got my BFP and so far so good.  I am 6w3d and the most pregnant I have ever been,  I am even starting to feel some nausea which I imagine is a precurser to morning sickness. 

    Don't get too discouraged.  You do have options available and time on your side being as you are only 23.  PgAL is full or women who have been right were you are and blessed with buns in the over right now.  I hope we see you oven here very soon.

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  • Thanks everyone. The first time they gave me the go ahead to try again because they said eh it was just chemical it is all fine. Well now the 2nd and we are being more cautious. When it comes to testing and such I am a nurse at the hospital that my doctor is at so I do get 100% coverage and that is another why he is taking such an initiative to start testing at 2 mc and not 3 and he says studies from yale and harvard are now showing to start testing at 2. I am RH neg (O neg) and have had Rhogam 2 times after each mc.. During the first pregnancy my first progesterone was 17 and the second one he never checked so thats all I have to go off of. I asked him about uterine wall thickening today and he said that it didnt matter when all Ive been reading was that it did matter so Im just lost. He is the doctor and I just have to trust him but just like all of you, the last thing I want to do is keep losing pregnancies when there is no known reason you know? And I feel so bad for my husband because its totally out of his hands and he is just so upset. Thanks again everyone.
    Me: 24 DH: 27 12/7/2011- Faint BFP #1- 12/18/2011- early m/c at 5 weeks- CP 1/30/2012- Faint BFP #2- 2/17/2012-early miscarriage at 6 weeks- CP RLP done- 1 copy C77T hetero MTHFR-Slight hypothyroid-normal HSG. 8/2012 and 9/2012 Clomid + TI= BFN 10/2012- follistim 7.5 and IUI #1- BFN (pressured into this IUI) 12/2012-BFP #3- 2 days later started bleeding. 3rd CP. 1/18/2013 BFP #4. Beta #1- 14.7(10dpo) 99.5(13dpo) 263 15(dpo).STICK LITTLE PEANUT- WE LOVE YOU!
  • Hey, I also had two back to back chemical pregnancies, and got pregnant immediately AGAIN the next month, and this one has stuck! I'm 18 weeks now. I have NO idea why the first two happened. I had all the testing run after the second, they didn't find anything (well, they had a lab error that said I might have lupus, which scared the CRAP out of me but it turned out to be totally lab error). I should have just listened to my doctor when she said she was pretty sure it was a coincidence.

    I did start taking baby aspirin and folic acid every day, I have no idea if that helped this one stick. Maybe talk to your doc about it. Good luck!!

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  • Someso-----do you take a PNV and an additional folic acid? Yea its a weird situation I want everything to be negative and want them to find something to fix. ya know? So far my tests are negative. Still waiting for the APA and lupus test and the hsg to be done. My doc said may be a fluke like u said and if thats the case we will do vaginal progesterone and aspirin. Thanks for the confident post :)
    Me: 24 DH: 27 12/7/2011- Faint BFP #1- 12/18/2011- early m/c at 5 weeks- CP 1/30/2012- Faint BFP #2- 2/17/2012-early miscarriage at 6 weeks- CP RLP done- 1 copy C77T hetero MTHFR-Slight hypothyroid-normal HSG. 8/2012 and 9/2012 Clomid + TI= BFN 10/2012- follistim 7.5 and IUI #1- BFN (pressured into this IUI) 12/2012-BFP #3- 2 days later started bleeding. 3rd CP. 1/18/2013 BFP #4. Beta #1- 14.7(10dpo) 99.5(13dpo) 263 15(dpo).STICK LITTLE PEANUT- WE LOVE YOU!
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