Infertility

does your religion accept ART?

In light of the Pope's recent remarks, I started wondering about other relgions. I know there are some that do accept ART. DH and I have been thinking of leaving the Catholic Church for a while now and I am starting to research other relgions.

Have you found a church that you feel that your infertility and treatment choices are accepted?

 

 


DH: Severe MFI/Azoo Me: Compound heterozygous MTHFR
IVF #1= m/c- methotrexate @6w2d
FET #1= BFN
IVF #2= m/c- D&C @8w5d
IVF #3= Beta #1 9dp5dt= 252, Beta #2 11dp5dt= 417, Beta #3 17dp5dt= 4,952
US #2 @ 7w2d= twins, baby B measuring behind
US #3 @ 8w5d= Baby A doing well, no HR in baby B
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Re: does your religion accept ART?

  • My mom calls the episcopal church "catholic lite" (my whole family is southern baptist but I fell in love with the teachings, ceremony, and tradition of my husband's religion and converted) and I'd recommend going to a service or two and seeing if it's a better fit for your family. Our priest is nothing but supportive and sympathetic to our infertility situation and has no ill words for IVF or other ART.

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  • DH grew up in the Episcopal church, which we have always found to be very accepting. Presently, DH and I go to a Presbyterian Church (PCUSA). The PCUSA church has specifically addressed IUI and IVF as responsible methods of conception. They go on to say they would oppose any law that prohibits ART. 
    TTC in 2009, Dx: Unexplained IF
    Three TI cycles (BFP...miscarriage), five IUI attempts and 2.5 IVF cycles later...BFP!!
    12dp5dt: 765; 15dp5dt: 1979; 17dp5dt: 3379...TWINS!!!!!
    Our perfect baby boys were born at 36w1d!! 








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  • We are both former Catholics and have found the Unitarian Universalist church to be very open minded and accepting.
  • I am Catholic, and the pope's remarks made me sad.

    How naive.

     

    First cycle of Clomid created one follicle=BFN Second cycle of Clomid created two follicles=BFN Break cycle= did not ovulate Third cycle of Clomid, 75mg, two follicles=BFN First IUI cycle with Clomid + Follistim=BFN First IVF Cycyle February 2012 Egg Retrieval on 2-14-2012 {13 follicles, 9 fertilized} Embryo Transfer on 2-19-2012 {Two blasts transferred} 6 snowbabies BETA #1 on 2/28 = 186 BETA #2 on 3/1=346 BETA #3 on 3/6 = 2,499 1st ultrasound on 3/13
  • I wasn't really sure so I Googled it to see what the Eastern Orthodox Church's stand was.  I found this:

    Artificial insemination by a husband (AIH) is not rejected, but artificial insemination by donor (AID) is considered an improper intrusion of a third party in the sanctity of the marital relation. In vitro fertilization is looked upon with great doubt because present methods cause the destruction of numerous human fertilized ova and even developing fetuses; this is still a form of abortion. Genetic counseling and screening cannot be objected to in principle and in fact should be encouraged.

    While that's interesting, I'm not planning to stop proceedings with DE to try to have a child.  In fact, this was one small part of a longer laundry list of items on which I, sadly, disagree with the church.  It seems like some religions have not kept up with modern day times.  Maybe the point is that modern times don't keep in holding wiht religion.  Maybe I'm a hypocrite since I call myself an Orthodox Christian yet I don't believe in many of the tenants of the church. 

    Anyway, sorry.  This doesn't really answer your question about a religion that's more accepting, and I didn't mean to get so philosophical.  It's just interesting to think about.

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  • sarahtoledo posted the site a while back. (If you se this, I miss you Sarah!!)

    I thought it was really fascinating. 

    https://www.ivf-worldwide.com/Education/ivf-global-perspective-religious.html

    Someone else brought up an interesting question... what would the catholic church think if the person suffering from IF was also the doctor and thus could not include a "third party".

    I know it's all semantics, but it's clearly not black and white.  

    (Live in Europe) TTC since 1/2010
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    My mom calls the episcopal church "catholic lite" (my whole family is southern baptist but I fell in love with the teachings, ceremony, and tradition of my husband's religion and converted) and I'd recommend going to a service or two and seeing if it's a better fit for your family. Our priest is nothing but supportive and sympathetic to our infertility situation and has no ill words for IVF or other ART.

    This was my first thought too- thanks for the info! Glad you have found support with your church.


    DH: Severe MFI/Azoo Me: Compound heterozygous MTHFR
    IVF #1= m/c- methotrexate @6w2d
    FET #1= BFN
    IVF #2= m/c- D&C @8w5d
    IVF #3= Beta #1 9dp5dt= 252, Beta #2 11dp5dt= 417, Beta #3 17dp5dt= 4,952
    US #2 @ 7w2d= twins, baby B measuring behind
    US #3 @ 8w5d= Baby A doing well, no HR in baby B
    *S/PAIF always welcome* BabyFetus Ticker
  • imageMitzi Bishi:

    sarahtoledo posted the site a while back. (If you se this, I miss you Sarah!!)

    I thought it was really fascinating. 

    https://www.ivf-worldwide.com/Education/ivf-global-perspective-religious.html

    Someone else brought up an interesting question... what would the catholic church think if the person suffering from IF was also the doctor and thus could not include a "third party".

    I know it's all semantics, but it's clearly not black and white.  

     Thanks for the site- it's very informative!!


    DH: Severe MFI/Azoo Me: Compound heterozygous MTHFR
    IVF #1= m/c- methotrexate @6w2d
    FET #1= BFN
    IVF #2= m/c- D&C @8w5d
    IVF #3= Beta #1 9dp5dt= 252, Beta #2 11dp5dt= 417, Beta #3 17dp5dt= 4,952
    US #2 @ 7w2d= twins, baby B measuring behind
    US #3 @ 8w5d= Baby A doing well, no HR in baby B
    *S/PAIF always welcome* BabyFetus Ticker
  • I can't answer your question directly because I still consider myself Catholic.  To do that, however, I've learned to separate the religion from the men who run the Church.  Perhaps that's a convenient way to compartmentalize, but it works for us. Many, many years ago, I worked for the Church and even then I learned that it's a business like many others with all of the unpleasantries of a business.  So I largely ignore the pontificating religious faction and instead focus on the core doctrinal teachings.
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    Baby boy Henry born 2015.
    Expecting our capstone baby (boy) early March 2018.
  • DH is Catholic-but doesn't go. I know they wouldn't accept it. Actually his parents bought all the donor vials for us. They are Catholic-and.go whenever the doors are open. I am Methodist. We believe in just about everything in moderation.
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  • imageRuthie04:
    DH grew up in the Episcopal church, which we have always found to be very accepting. Presently, DH and I go to a Presbyterian Church (PCUSA). The PCUSA church has specifically addressed IUI and IVF as responsible methods of conception. They go on to say they would oppose any law that prohibits ART. 

    We're Presbyterian also (although I stopped going to church after losing Eliott) and they're pretty accepting of IF treatments.

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  • Seeing topics like this makes me so happy to be an Agnostic.

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    Me: 34, DH: 35 DX: DOR (FSH 14.9, AMH 0.67, AFC ~10) and Egg Quality

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    May Donor Egg IVF cycle:3 EF, 1 blast ET 5/12, 2 frosties
    BFP 5/21! beta #1 5/22 306 beta #2 5/24 818 beta #3 5/31 15,038.

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  • I too am Episcopalian and feel the church is accepting of the choices Ia m making to get me to motherhood.
    Single Mother by Choice. Life didn't work out the way I planned so I did it on my own. IUI #s 1-3, unmedicated = BFN, IUI #s 4-6, 50mg Clomid, Ovidrel = BFN IVF #1: 23R, 20M, 17F. 5 day transfer 2 blasts. 2 Snowbabies BFP 6dp5dt, Beta #1 7dp5dt = 58, Beta #2 9dp5dt = 114, Beta #3 10dp5dt = 187 1st Ultrasound = 5/3, not much to see yet. 2nd Ultrasound = 5/17, TWINS!!! Hospital Bed Rest at 32 weeks due to pre-ecclampsia and severe edema. Audrey Grace, 5lbs9oz, & Lydia Louise, 6lbs, born via emergency c-section on 12/6/12 at 36w1d My IVF Journey
  • We attend an Assembly of God Church and our denomination does not have formal position on ART.  Personally, I've always believed that science complements faith.
  • imagesekura:
    Seeing topics like this makes me so happy to be an Agnostic.

    Yes

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    Dx DOR (AMH .49), Stage 3/4 Endo, Septate Uterus
    After 2 years, numerous tests, abdonimal surgery, and 2 IVF cycles, we are so grateful to be expecting.
    Transferred 2 "perfect" 8-cell embies 6/12. Beta 1 6/25: 472! Beta 2 6/27: 1055!
    First u/s shows TRIPLETS! WHAT?!?! Both embies stuck and one split. OMG

    Levi, Henry, and Amelia were born healthy at 34w3d.
  • We identify as mostly Episcopalian with some UU and Baha'i thrown in for good measure.

    We've been very happy in our current Episcopal diocese bc they've been nothing but supportive to gay couples as well as couples building their families through ART.

     

    Six years of infertility and loss, four IUIs, one IVF and one very awesome little boy born via med-free birth 10.24.13.
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  • While I know Rome doesn't support ART (among other things), I know that many are supported in their parishes.  It just depends.  Most other religions don't take a stance at all or support an individual's right to build their family as they see fit.  My DH (Hindu) and I (Protestant) don't seek religious counsel when it comes to dealing with medical issues.  Best of luck!
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    IVF w/ICSI/AH & acu = BFP!, unexplained spontaneous m/c @ 8w2d (our little girl),
    FET w/acu = BFP!, B/G twins!, lost MP @19w, dx w/funneling cervix @20w,
    twins nearly lost to IC @21w, saved by rescue cerclage, 17P & 16w of bedrest
    Our twins born @36w4d via CS when A came foot first

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