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sex-selective abortion - WTF?! (vent)

Tongue Tied I have clearly been living in a completely sheltered world where nobody would choose to end a pregnancy simply because of the child's sex.  It was just brought to my attention that this practice is increasing in Canada and there are talks about banning doctors from revealing the sex of the baby until after 30 weeks.  I had no idea!!!!  Do I really need another reason to hate fertile people?  Our government will pay for these people to end their pregnancy but won't give me one fcvking penny towards ANY baby that I would love more than anything.  Wait...I PAY for these people to end their pregnancies with m out of control taxes.  FML.

Vent over.  I've felt a vent coming on for a couple of days now.

 
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Re: sex-selective abortion - WTF?! (vent)

  • Ughhh...I totally get hoping for one sex over another and I get that if you have two girls and you're PG with a 3rd, sure, it'd be great if #3 could be a boy. But when you're going so far as to abort a baby solely because of its sex....it's disgusting.

    I'm not one to throw out the "why don't you adopt?" card but If you're that dead set on having a child of a particular sex, then pay your money and wait in line to adopt a child of that sex.

     

    TTC 12/2009
    Me: 32 - Stage II Endo / DH: 36 - Low count and morphology (1%)
    IUIs 1-3 BFN, lap Dec. 2010, IUIs 4-6 BFN
    IVF w/ICSI #1 - ER 2/8: 24R 19M 9F ET 2/13 2-5 day blasts (no frosties) = BFP - b/g twins!
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  • That is the most disgusting thing I've RE's in a long time. Wow!! Here I am Praying, begging and hoping for a baby of any sex and these people just decide that they don't want another girl or boy and it's okay for them to abort and start over. So disgusting. How is this normal?
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  • You have got to be freaking kidding me.  Wtf? 
    TTC #1 since October 2008. Dealing with MFI.
    IVF #1 w ICSI in July 2010 = BFN
    IVF #2.1 in Oct 2010 converted to IUI = BFN
    IVF #2.2 w ICSI in Dec 2010 = BFN
    Met with new RE in new city on 1/31/11.
    IVF #3 w ICSI in April 2011. HPT on 5/9 = BFP!
    Beta #1 on 5/10 (10dp5dt) = 99.4. Beta #2 on 5/12 = 284. First u/s on 5/26. = Fraternal TWINS!
    Twin boys born & lost on 8/16/11 at 18w1d due to PPROM & preterm labor.
    IVF #4.1 in Jan 2012 converted to IUI on 1/7/12 = BFN
    IVF #4.2 w ICSI in Feb 2012. Lupron on 2/10. Stims on 2/18. ER on 2/29- 7R,6F
    ET scheduled for 3/5/12- nothing to transfer :(
    Dh seeing new MFI uro & Dh starting meds- June 2012.
    IVF #5 in Dec 2012 = BFFN.
    IVF #6 planned for Spring 2013. Praying for our take home baby/ies.
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  • Wow - I have no words...and the fact that the government is paying for these sex-selective abortions but not paying for IF coverage for women who so desperately want a baby is even more beyond words.  Angry
    TTC since 3/07. IVF#1 = canceled. IVF#2 = 0% fertilization. IVF#3 = BFN. IVF#4 = c/p.  
    Moving forward with Adoption 2017!
  • Indifferent

    wow

    and sorry 

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    MTHFR A1298C & C677T, Immune Issues and Factor II
  • Repulsive...i hate that i keep being given reasons to hate the human race.
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  • It's sick. You know in some places in BC they won't even tell you the sex for exactly this reason? My friend was shocked after she moved to a small town there and was told she couldn't find out. Took her 5 years to conceive, she clearly didn't care what it was. It's become a widespread problem and it's the same reason why it's illegal to tell the patient the sex of embryos in IVF here in Alberta before transfer (and maybe this is country-wide).
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    Wow - I have no words...and the fact that the government is paying for these sex-selective abortions but not paying for IF coverage for women who so desperately want a baby is even more beyond words.  Angry

    Ditto!

    TTC #1 Since 11/08 - Dx: MFI & PCOS
    7 IUIs = All BFNs
    2011: March IVF #1.2 = e/p @ 6w: May IVF #2 = BFN: July sFET #1 = BFN

    2012: Jan We're Certified FC/A Parents
    May IVF #3 = c/p
    June-Nov Foster Mommy to M (Toddler)
    July FET #2 = BFN
    Aug FET #3 = BFN
    Sept-Nov Foster Mommy to Baby Bella (Newborn)
    Nov HSG/Sono = Clear!
    Dec FET #4 = BFN

    2013: Feb FET #5 = m/c @ 6.5w
    May-July Foster Mom to H (8 yr old girl)
    June/July/Aug IVF #4 = Freeze All
    July = Unofficially Adopting T (10 yr old boy)
    Sept FET #6 = TBD
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  • I have heard of this.  It is more common with some ethnicities than others.  Many Dr's in BC already won't reveal the sex until 25-30 weeks.

    Digusting? Absolutely!

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  • imageSloane99:
    It's sick. You know in some places in BC they won't even tell you the sex for exactly this reason? My friend was shocked after she moved to a small town there and was told she couldn't find out. Took her 5 years to conceive, she clearly didn't care what it was. It's become a widespread problem and it's the same reason why it's illegal to tell the patient the sex of embryos in IVF here in Alberta before transfer (and maybe this is country-wide).

    Just read this!  Yes, the practise of keeping the sex underwraps until far into the pregnancy in BC is quite common.  I hope we get a lenient OBGYN...

    As for revealing the sex of embryos, my clinic will.  I have no idea what the policy is for other clinics or what the 'norm' is though.

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  • That is SICK. sick, sick, sick!
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  • BeeBee,

    I would be very frustrated as well!  I cannot believe this actually happens.  I am even more surprised the Canadian government pays for it. 

     

     

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    TTC #1 since: Aug. 2008
    Me: 34, DOR, MTHFR-A1298C (heterozygous), decreased blood flow to uterus, Mild Endo
    DH: 38, Balanced translocation 5&10, unexplained MFI, normal SA and SCSA
    Tx History: IUI 1&2= BFN
    IVF# 1 W/ICSI= BFN
    IVF# 2: cancelled d/t no response
    IVF# 3= 1 egg retrieved=immature/not viable
    IVF# 4= c/p
    ***CCRM ODWU***
    Found DHs BT and Me-decreased blood flow to uterus
    Recommended DE IVF w/PGD, incorporate electro-acupuncture. Decided to cycle locally
    ***New RE***
    DE IVF# 1(cycle #6) w/pgd, (freeze all): 30R, 23M, 15F, slow/poor embryo development, 4 biopsied, 1 Normal "Norm"; DE IVF w/PGD, incorporate electro-acupuncture. 
    IVF# 6: (OE/DS) cancelled
    IVF# 7: (OE/DS) 1R, 1M, 1F, arrested day 5
    Plan-DE IVF# 2 (cycle #8): DE/DS in May 2015


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  • Absolutely disgusting!
    IVF #3 = Feb 2012
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  • I didn't realize that the docs in BC were already withholding this information - from what I was reading, the "issue" is a little more prevalent in BC than other areas, but Ontario is quickly catching up.  I would hope that your clinic would be a little more flexible given what you ladies have already been through to get pregnant in the first place.  Using discretion should be allowed.

    Sloane - like the new avatar!

     
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    ttc since 10/2008; d/x: mild MFI, stageII endo
    ~~PAIF/SAIF Welcome~~
    11 IUI’s = 1 m/c (7w4d)
    IVF#1 January 2012 BFN, FET #1 April 2012 BFN
    Surprise BFP October 2012 m/c (7w), Surprise BFP April 2013 m/c (6w4d)
    IVF #2: July 2013, ET 1 embryo 7/18, beta 1 @ 14dp3dt - 757, beta 2 @ 16dp3dt - 1762
    U/S 1 @ 6w4d = 1 little frogger with HB of 118, U/S 2 @ 7w3d measuring right on track with HB of 160
    Stick Frogger Stick! Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!   It's a Girl, EDD April 7, 2014

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  • I have no words.
    TTC with severe MFI since 9/08 IVF w/ ICSI #1 May/June 2010= BFP twins
    Callan George and Bennett Charles born and died 11/7/10
    Lilypie Angel and Memorial tickers
    FET #1 April 2011= BFN
    FET #2 July 2011= no transfer because my lining sucked
    FET #3 February 2012= BFP! 1st beta 9dp5dt=314 2nd beta 11dp5dt=977 1st U/S 3/20 Twins- Heart rates of 111 and 138 Pregnancy Ticker
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  • A/S have been illegal in India since 1994 because if it was a girl, a lot of times the woman would either chose to or be forced to terminate because of the cultural preference for boys.  Of course this has led to a lot of back alley a/s places & illegal abortions, not to mention thousands of perfect baby girls being abandoned all over the country.  In the last Indian census the male to female ratio has actually gotten worse in many places since the 94 law was passed.  The situation is very similar to that in China.  With the large amount of immigrants from Asia to Canada I'm not really surprised about this.  It's not only common in India & China, but in Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc.
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  • SO disgusting.  How could you live with yourself?
    TTC since 07/2009
    Me: PCOS, Blood/Immune Issues DH: Low all 3
    Jun.- Sep. 2010 IUI#1-#3 = BFN
    Oct. 2010 = IVF #1 = B/G Twins (passed away Feb. 2011)
    May 2011 = Myomectomy and trans-abdominal cerclage (TAC)
    Sep. 2011 = Surprise BFP = C/P
    Feb. 2012 = sFET #1 = BFN
    Feb.2012 = Hail Mary IUI #4 = BFN
    April/May 2012 = FET #2 w/our last two embies = BFP (Please let this be it!)
    Beta #1 8dp5/6dt = 234 Beta #2 10dp5/6dt = 695 Beta #3 12dp5/6dt = 1796 Beta #4 17dp5/6dt = 17,888 U/S #1 May 17, 2012 = Twins
    Baby B's heart stop beating at 9 weeks 5 days
    Our little miracle baby is a boy. :)

    Baby Boy Owen and Baby Girl Avery were born too early on Feb. 13, 2011 due to a pedunculated fibroid, incompetent cervix and suspected placental abruption.
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  • This makes me sick. WTF is wrong with people?!?
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  • Wow that is so sad and disgusting I can hardly believe it really happens.  The logical side of my brain is dumbfounded by how illogical this is.  These people do realize that they need both boys and girls to ultimately give birth to the next generation, right?  I mean it just doesn't even make sense, which makes it so much sadder that these idiots who are so self centered can have babies so easily :-(.
    TTC since 8/2004
    Me - DX Hashimoto's Disease, Hypothyroid, Rheumatoid Arthritis
    DH - DX Azoospermia - Sertoli Cell Syndrome
    DS-IUI #1-4 BFN IVF #1 - BFP! It's a boy!!!
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