Selfless birthplan

Danaz1

A bit much if you ask me. Www.prebabyblog.com

MarSamWhitney

I can imagine many doctors and nurses rolling their eyes to a lot of these requests.  I will say, I am impressed that she is so thorough. I certainly did not put that much effort into it.

MrsMommyQ

Wow. Just wow.

Any idea why she doesn't want the baby to have a bath?

amykins1283

I know that some people request no Hep B right at birth but I am curious to know her stance on vaccinations as a whole since she specified that.  Guess we'll find out after baby comes. 

Also, I'm kinda weirded out about the bath, thing.  How are they going to get all the gunk off of her?  Babies come out all kinds of gross.

honkytonk_kid

amykins1283:

I know that some people request no Hep B right at birth but I am curious to know her stance on vaccinations as a whole since she specified that.  Guess we'll find out after baby comes. 

Also, I'm kinda weirded out about the bath, thing.  How are they going to get all the gunk off of her?  Babies come out all kinds of gross.

Actually the vernix that they are covered in is very good for their skin. It's a great moisturizer. You can easily gently wipe off the "all kinds of gross" stuff- amniotic fluid, blood, meconium (if any) without scrubbing the beneficial vernix off. I'm sure she doesn't mean to bath, ever, but it's hardly necessary to whisk babies away from mama for a stat bath.

J+MS

None of that is unusual

Yules

My plan was almost identical to this one. Except a week before I went into labor the growth u/s revealed that I was having a small elephant. I felt like a tool for agreeing to have a csection just based on the u/s. I'm so glad I did, the u/s was 10 oz UNDER what my DS actually was. 

What's that saying? If you want to make God laugh, tell him your plans? He laughed at me, for sure. 

honkytonk_kid

J+MS:

None of that is unusual

Well, duh, you are supposed to just show and do whatever the Trained Medical Professionals tell you to do.

PolishWonder

My birth plan was followed to a tee: Give me the drugs, give me the baby, give me a drink

Lilystar82

For once, I don't find her that off base. Seems like a fairly typical birth plan for women who want to go natural. (says the lady who had an emergency csection at 32weeks and had no birth plan other than get them out alive) 

MrsMommyQ

anna karenina:

What is a "bit much"? I had an unmedicated, intervention free labor and all of this was a part of it. 

Except that she says no drugs whatsoever and then says she'd "go for an epidural if I can?t handle the intensity of childbirth before going for other drugs."

For me, the "bit much" part is the tone of her writing. At times she seems to think she knows more than her dr.

Jillibean85

PolishWonder:

My birth plan was followed to a tee: Give me the drugs, give me the baby, give me a drink

Amen, sister. No birth plan here.. 

KoalaBear103

I actually don't really see anything wrong with her plan. Most of it seems pretty normal for a med free birth.

emriley84

I'm a nurse in maternity. We see birth plans like this often. Parents chose to have an unmedicated birth, and to not have the baby seperated, no bath, delay of vitamin k and eye ointment.

The no bath is because the vernex is good for the baby's skin. You're supposed to gently rub it in. We put a note on the baby's bed saying it hasn't been bathed just to tell others not to handle the baby without gloves for infection purposes.

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J+MS

Shana419:

It's not as out there as I expected it to be.  Her hospital bag post though....yikes.  I wonder why she doesn't want the baby to have a bath?

the vermix is good for their skin and she can bond right away instead of letting her be wisked off.

gisa886

Yules:

My plan was almost identical to this one. Except a week before I went into labor the growth u/s revealed that I was having a small elephant. I felt like a tool for agreeing to have a csection just based on the u/s. I'm so glad I did, the u/s was 10 oz UNDER what my DS actually was. 

What's that saying? If you want to make God laugh, tell him your plans? He laughed at me, for sure. 

That last part made me laugh cause it is so true. God gave a hearty chuckle to my plans. Twice.  

wife1014

MrsMommyQ:

anna karenina:

What is a "bit much"? I had an unmedicated, intervention free labor and all of this was a part of it. 

Except that she says no drugs whatsoever and then says she'd "go for an epidural if I can?t handle the intensity of childbirth before going for other drugs."

For me, the "bit much" part is the tone of her writing. At times she seems to think she knows more than her dr.

I generally think she is kind of out there but in this case I disagree.  This is her ideal birthing situation and there's nothing wrong with knowing what you'd like to happen. 

Kate621

amykins1283:

I know that some people request no Hep B right at birth but I am curious to know her stance on vaccinations as a whole since she specified that.  Guess we'll find out after baby comes. 

Also, I'm kinda weirded out about the bath, thing.  How are they going to get all the gunk off of her?  Babies come out all kinds of gross.

I am very pro vaccination and counsel parents about vaccinations as part of my job. I will be refusing the Hep B at birth with my next baby. It's just unnecessary. Unless your newborn is sharing needles or having unprotected sex, there is no reason it can't wait until 2 months.

Kate621

amykins1283:

I know that some people request no Hep B right at birth but I am curious to know her stance on vaccinations as a whole since she specified that.  Guess we'll find out after baby comes. 

Also, I'm kinda weirded out about the bath, thing.  How are they going to get all the gunk off of her?  Babies come out all kinds of gross.

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shootingstars00

Her birth plan is fine! I kind of laugh at how much stuff she is bringing to the hospital. A tarp and an air mattress! So much stuff. I am very curious to see how it all goes. I hope she is really honest about it.

epona3

I've read her blog a few times, and I mostly find her super annoying. I was all excited to go make fun of her birth plan. I must say, I am a little disappointed.

But it really doesn't seem all that "out there" for someone planning for a natural birth. Except for the bath part, hers is pretty much the same as the "Midwives Birth Plan" that I was given by my m/w practice (which was at a large university hospital, so they weren't "super crunchy.") It was very in line with what we wanted, so we didn't have to write our own.

It also seems like she is aware that God could laugh at her plans (what with the bit about the heplock and all), but she wants to have a place to start from. She is being shockingly down-to-earth, for her...

We also didn't do eye goop (I knew I didn't have any vaginal infections) or Hep B (we figured we could keep her from gettig hepatitis until her first pedi appt. a week later.)

AimeeL85

I really didn't find any of it too be crazy.  I didn't have a med free birth and never planned on one, but there are a lot of things I wish I had considered, thought about, asked to happen etc. (like delayed cord cutting for example).

Here's a possibly stupid question - do they actually ever give "sugar water" for any reason anymore? Isn't that a really outdated idea?

pitterpatter129

I agree that I thought it was a good plan.  I suggested if she have an induction she also make a birth plan for a csection.  I didn't have one for either plan of "exit" and I deeply regret it.

emsumm

That is the birth plan I would have loved to have written, had I not been birthing multiples.  Sounds really nice.

emriley84

We use sugar water at my hospital for painful procedures such as circumcisions and blood draws it actually acts as a pain reliever, it has something to do with the pain receptors, it produces almost an opiate response. And also help getting a baby latched on while breastfeeding. If a baby is super sleepy, we put a little sugar water on their lips to get them sucking then latch them on.

TBLilyRose

PolishWonder:

My birth plan was followed to a tee: Give me the drugs, give me the baby, give me a drink

Haha, this was mine. Except my drugs wore off and instead of a drink I wanted a big stack of french toast.

I guess it's good to have a detailed plan like that. I was so out of it by the time that kid came out of me that I wasn't really aware of what they were doing with him or to my lady parts.  

shakes

wife1014:

MrsMommyQ:

anna karenina:

What is a "bit much"? I had an unmedicated, intervention free labor and all of this was a part of it. 

Except that she says no drugs whatsoever and then says she'd "go for an epidural if I can?t handle the intensity of childbirth before going for other drugs."

For me, the "bit much" part is the tone of her writing. At times she seems to think she knows more than her dr.

I generally think she is kind of out there but in this case I disagree.  This is her ideal birthing situation and there's nothing wrong with knowing what you'd like to happen. 

Agreed. She annoys the ever loving crap out of me, but in a 100% fairy tale situation (which she likely will have), there's nothing wrong with the birth plan. I'm stuck on the air mattress for her precious dh from yesterday *eyeroll*. I do have to say I wish her L&D nurses had a blog for follow up...

TBLilyRose

shakes:

Agreed. She annoys the ever loving crap out of me, but in a 100% fairy tale situation (which she likely will have), there's nothing wrong with the birth plan. I'm stuck on the air mattress for her precious dh from yesterday *eyeroll*. I do have to say I wish her L&D nurses had a blog for follow up...

 I wish this was being filmed for "One Born Every Minute." Did anyone see the episode where the woman was dead set on a natural delivery and had been in labor for like 24 hours? The poor L&D nurse was trying to help by gently making suggestions because it had been so long and the dad said something like "We don't want any negativity in here."  I feel like that's how this will be.

BelhurstBride

I don't have a problem with her birth plan at all. 

But WTF with that packing list! I was all for having the least amount of stuff to carry back out again possible. Does her hospital not give out any samples at all? Pads? Nipple cream? Birthing ball? Breast pads? Heat/ice packs? Snacks? Drinks? My hospital provided all of that. 

BeerBeck

Personally, I think her birthplan is well thought out.  She has written it as the 'ideal' birthplan, (ie: no medications, iv, etc.), but has taken into account that things may change, and made arrangements for them, (ie: epi, etc.)

As for the bath, if this is something that her hospital generally does, then I agree with adding the request for not bathing.  At my hospital, the policy is to not bathe for at least 24 hours, so I completely understand this request.

 

In regards to the hospital bags that she packed, I think she was very careful in her planning, and like the idea of having multiple bags for different stages.  This ensures that, at no point, are her bags too big and bulky, but she has the things that she feels are needed.  (The one thing I would change is the size of the pads though!  She's probably going to need something a little more absorbant than that!)

Personally, I know I packed a lot, (some things that I didn't even use), but I would much rather have it all with me, just in case, than to wish that I had it.  Plus, by the sounds of it, she will have plenty of help when she gets home, (her husband and her Mum until May), so I think she should be fine with the unpacking, etc.

dosafyre

My natural birth plan wasn't much different. My tone was a little softer...but pretty standard stuff.

What we packed wasn't so terribly different either (so her DH doesn't want to sleep on the couch, big deal). They probably won't use most of it (we didn't), but better relaxed then sorry when in a med-free labor...imo. 

 

iheartsippycups

Sounds fine to me, if that is what she wants. My birth plan was a little more simple- give birth to baby any way necessary. 

honkytonk_kid

AimeeL85:

I really didn't find any of it too be crazy.  I didn't have a med free birth and never planned on one, but there are a lot of things I wish I had considered, thought about, asked to happen etc. (like delayed cord cutting for example).

Here's a possibly stupid question - do they actually ever give "sugar water" for any reason anymore? Isn't that a really outdated idea?

Some (most?) hospitals do have sugar water, like pp said, for painful procedures. Something about sugar bonding to the same receptors as morphine, if I remember correctly from nursing school. I was a little skeptical of that, because if that's true as a nurse I wouldn't be handing out morphine like it's candy, I would be handing out... candy. At most I think it's distraction.

It's not like, a bottle full of koolaid though, it's a little 1/2 oz packet of sugar water that you dip a pacifier or finger into.

JennJenn613

Her birth plan is almost exactly the same as mine was for DS (minus the "low voices around the baby" and a couple other minor ones). I also packed more crap than her in my hospital bags and don't get why she's getting so much s--t for it. Why not be prepared? PP asked "didn't the hospital provide all that stuff?" No, no they didn't. I got a few diapers, a Soothie, and formula samples.

I know everyone likes to hate on Selfie bc of the asinine comments she's made in the past, but lately people are really grasping at straws. There have got to be WAY more amusing birth plans out there.

WildcatPrincess

KoalaBear103:

I actually don't really see anything wrong with her plan. Most of it seems pretty normal for a med free birth.

I agree, it's very similar to the plan we used, written by the hypno instructor. My plan also said no drugs, though I was open to it if things got bad or I couldn't handle it. I just didn't want the nurses constantly suggesting stuff if I wasn't ready/didn't feel I needed it.

hopkins5

I thought this was one of Selfie's more "sane" posts

Mrs.Rose

honkytonk_kid:

AimeeL85:

I really didn't find any of it too be crazy.  I didn't have a med free birth and never planned on one, but there are a lot of things I wish I had considered, thought about, asked to happen etc. (like delayed cord cutting for example).

Here's a possibly stupid question - do they actually ever give "sugar water" for any reason anymore? Isn't that a really outdated idea?

Some (most?) hospitals do have sugar water, like pp said, for painful procedures. Something about sugar bonding to the same receptors as morphine, if I remember correctly from nursing school. I was a little skeptical of that, because if that's true as a nurse I wouldn't be handing out morphine like it's candy, I would be handing out... candy. At most I think it's distraction.

It's not like, a bottle full of koolaid though, it's a little 1/2 oz packet of sugar water that you dip a pacifier or finger into.

This.  I was told that sugar water helps distract/calm babies during painful procedures.  Having a NICU baby who was stuck probably 100 times over a month and who had several painful procedures, I was all for anything to make him a little more comfortable.  And it is just a little taste of it - they dip the pacifier or a finger in there and then into the babies mouth - it is not like they give the baby a bottle of it.  I have never been heard (except for on the bump) that it inhibits breastfeeding - but I could be wrong.

I am curious to see how this goes for her.  I sometimes like her, and sometimes want to punch her.  Varies by day.  I agree with the pp who said she acts sometimes like she knows more than her doctor.  And she is also one of those people who expects that everything will be perfect for them, despite the disclaimers she puts in there. 

chardonnay24

I had a great hospital and I agreed with a lot of their policies: baby with mom right away (if possible), no bath for a couple hours, baby stays the night unless mom requests otherwise, no encouraging drugs (just offering the option in the beginning), IV and constant monitoring isn't standard, encouraging drinking during labor, not allowing formula, pacifiers, or bottles unless requested, and the OB was adamant about doing perineal massage and warm compresses to decrease tearing and didn't do episiotomies unless requested. Otherwise, all that stuff would have been in my birth plan. Maybe her hospital is really crappy and she needs to spell all of this out. I don't see much wrong with it and in fact, I've seen much more detailed birth plans.

shakes

chardonnay24:

I had a great hospital and I agreed with a lot of their policies: baby with mom right away (if possible), no bath for a couple hours, baby stays the night unless mom requests otherwise, no encouraging drugs (just offering the option in the beginning), IV and constant monitoring isn't standard, encouraging drinking during labor, not allowing formula, pacifiers, or bottles unless requested, and the OB was adamant about doing perineal massage and warm compresses to decrease tearing and didn't do episiotomies unless requested. Otherwise, all that stuff would have been in my birth plan. Maybe her hospital is really crappy and she needs to spell all of this out. I don't see much wrong with it and in fact, I've seen much more detailed birth plans.

I dont mean this as horribly as it's going to sound...but Selfish is such a self absorbed know it all that I am sure it's a 5 star hospital. I think it's awesome that this girl wants the very very best fr her daugher, and I am sure/hope they succeed on all of it. It's the TONE man.

WestCoastMommy

Kate621:

amykins1283:

I know that some people request no Hep B right at birth but I am curious to know her stance on vaccinations as a whole since she specified that.  Guess we'll find out after baby comes. 

Also, I'm kinda weirded out about the bath, thing.  How are they going to get all the gunk off of her?  Babies come out all kinds of gross.

I am very pro vaccination and counsel parents about vaccinations as part of my job. I will be refusing the Hep B at birth with my next baby. It's just unnecessary. Unless your newborn is sharing needles or having unprotected sex, there is no reason it can't wait until 2 months.

I too am pro vaccination but didn't allow them to vacinate either of my baby's until their first appointment.