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chrissyc82chrissyc82 member
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So I tested this morning twice and both came back bfn.  I'm sorta discouraged, everything went really well with this cycle.  My dh and I are thinking it's time to move on from IUI and move to IVF.  All together we have had 3 failed IUIs and I'm not sure how much more we can deal with.  My question to everyone is when did you make the switch from IUI to IVF?  I'm lucky to still be young (almost 30) and nothing but pcos is wrong with me.  We are kinda put off with the price of IVF but since we have already had all the diagnosis testing done that should cut some money out of it.  I'm just getting discouraged with the IUI.  Any suggestions?
married 6/19/09 ttc 4 years pcos diagnosed age 15 2 iui in 2010 all pfn clomid 150mg 10 days metformin between 500-1500mg a day 19mm follicle on left, trigger shot 12/19 IUI scheduled 12/22 IUI #3 bfn Clomid again days 4-13 this time 150mg a day Hopeful IUI 1/27 <a href="http://s289.photobucket.com/albums/ll228/jcleverly76/?action=view
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  • LindsayLou13LindsayLou13
    I am so sorry to hear about your bfn. Unfortunately, DH and I are not at that stage yet, but I would think in your shoes I would make the move to IVF. Price worries me as well about that, so I'm actually starting to save and shop around for grants, as well. Best advice I can give is to follow your heart. Good Luck with whatever decision you make! 
    Me: 25, DH: 27
    Proud Stepmama to DSS
    TTC since Aug. 2009 IF official Aug 2011; dx: DH:all clear, me:PCOS
    2 rounds Femara(5mg)+ TI: no response
    4 rounds Clomid + TI: BFN
    10/2012: 1st IUI, 75mg Clomid & Bravelle Injections. 4 follicles. IUI 10/11/12. BFP!!!
    Beta #1: 575, Beta #2: 1075, 1st u/s 11/9/12

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  • Sarah226Sarah226 member
    I have no advice since we had to go straight to IVF, but just wanted to say sorry. Yes, the price is high, but hopefully you'll find a way to get the money together.  Even though our first try failed, and I think often about all I could have done with the roughly $12k we spent on it, I still don't regret it.  For us, we had to give it a shot, and we're willing to do it again.  Good luck!
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  • lady_chance_99lady_chance_99
    No advice, I just wanted to say I'm sorry for your BFN. I hope your next step is your last one!
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  • Ruthie04Ruthie04 member
    I'm so sorry. After our third full IUI cycle, we made the decision to move to IVF. We are unexplained, so there's really no way to know what is going on in there. But, the thing that really pushed us to IVF was the odds. There's really nothing out there that is going to give you the per cycle success rate of IVF. While I am also just shy of 30, my response to meds has worsened and my FSH (while still in range) is rising. We figured, now or never! Best of luck to you in making this decision. We will be here for you whatever you decide!
    TTC in 2009, Dx: Unexplained IF
    Three TI cycles (BFP...miscarriage), five IUI attempts and 2.5 IVF cycles later...BFP!!
    12dp5dt: 765; 15dp5dt: 1979; 17dp5dt: 3379...TWINS!!!!!
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  • pillowasspillowass member

    This is such a personal decision. I have taken a long time to get to the point of moving on to IVF. We did 3 medicated cycles last Spring, then took a break to get healthier and try naturally for about 6 months, then went back to the RE. After 2 more failed IUI's we're just done with IUI, mentally and emotionally. The success rates are too low and we were getting so discouraged. We are ready to bring out the big guns, even though we are totally OOP (gulp).

    Our decision was also motivated by my age (36) and the fact that we want 2 more children. If I was younger, I might try more IUI's and natural cycles.  Good luck with your decision, and definitely talk to your RE to see what his/her recommendation is.

     

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    FSH = 11 (20 on day 10 of CCCT)/ AMH = .98 / AFC=12ish
    5 IUI's with oral meds = all BFN
    March 2012 IVF (MDL Protocol) Started stims 3/3; ER 3/11 (9R, 8M, 7F) ET 3/16 (5dt of 2 blasts graded 3AB and 3BA, 3 frosties(!!) Beta 3/26 = 386; Beta 3/28 = 827; u/s 4/11 says TWINS! Boy/Girl Twins delivered at 36 weeks 6 days

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  • debnut39debnut39

    I am so sorry. Big hugs to you.

    I only have the option of IVF so I can't advise you on the move from IUI but I want to wish you good luck in whatever you decide. IVF is expensive but it sounds like you would be an excellent candidate for success (especially with your age too!). Do you have any insurance coverage of IVF?

    Although IVF is costly, I think the the emotional toll of the whole process is more costly on yourself overall. I say, it will be a short term sacrifice for a long term gain and an excellent investment!! IVF may be the fastest, most efficient way for you to get your little one.

    Does your RE's office offer risk sharing? That can help you with cost. Some offices have it where you get money back from your cycle if you don't have success.

    Take care and good luck!

    Me: 39 DH: 39 Dx: MFI, DOR, Poor Responder Our only option is IVF with ICSI; 1/11 IVF#1.1: Lupron flare, canceled lead follie/poor response; 3/11 IVF#1.2: EPP, canceled due to lead follicle/poor response; 10/11 IVF#1.3: Antagonist, microdose HCG, 2 embies 2dt BFN; 12/11 IVF #2: Stims started 12/17, ER: 12/27 3R, 1 mature, 1 fert, other 2 eggs matured overnight and rescue ICSI performed and both fertilized! (frozen on 12/30), On 12/29 1 2d 4-cell, grade 1 embie transferred. 1/12: Scheduled Beta, FX'd! IVF Snowflakes!
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  • angela2004angela2004 member
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  • GregermisGregermis member
    sorry about the bfns...  we did 4 IUIs before moving on to IVF, but that was because I got a BFP with IUI#1 (m/c 5w3d).  I am sorry you are having to make this decision, but lots of REs recommend moving on after 3 IUIs... so your thoughts will likely line up with your RE.  Good luck making a decision and moving forward.
    TTC #1 Since 4/2010, Cycle 30
    Positive for HLA-B27, I'm a mutant :p
    Testing - Me ok, gluten issue? DH - borderline count, low motility
    4/28/11 IUI#1 = BFP!(5/25), EDD 2/2/12 - m/c 5w3d
    7/3, 7/31, 9/25 - IUI#2-4=BFN
    IVF#1 - 1 blast = BFP!! (12/30), EDD 9/9/12, confirmed c/p 4w2d
    FET#1 3/2/12 - 2 blasts =BFP!! EDD 11/18/12, us#1 = twins! Confirmed m/c 5w6d
    4/20-surprise BFP and another c/p 4w2d
    FET#2 7/16/12 - 2 blasts = BFN
    FET#3 8/20/12 - 1 blast - BFP!! Beta #1-2=177, 354
    1st u/s 5w6d, one beautiful little HB :), 2nd u/s 146bpm
    baby girl born 5/10/13

    TTC#2 since 12/17/2014, Cycle 8
    Repeat Testing...FSH=12, AMH=3.8, AFC=28. 
    IUI#5 5/10/15- c/p?
    IVF#2 8/19/15 - cancelled due to cysts
    IVF#2 take two 10/2015 - 5 blasts frozen
    FET#4 12/11/2015 - BFN - 4 blasts remaining
    FET#5 2/18/16 - BFP!!!  Beta1-3, 126, 250, 745!!

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  • jillychrisjillychris member
    I'm so sorry about your BFN. They suck! We actually went straight to IVF. At our clinic, the cost of an IUI was about 1/3 of a the cost of an IVF, and we decided with the success rates just to skip straight to IVF. It's definitely a personal decision though and your diagnosis will play more into what your success rates will be with each.
    2/11 Diagnosis: DOR-AMH .62, LPD and MFI-4% Morph
    IVF #1-July 2011 7/9/11-Started Stims
    7/20/11-ER:No eggs in 4/5 follicles. Left the 5th follie intact and converted to an IUI
    8/3/11-Beta #1=BFN,
    Nov, 2011 BFP #1=m/c at 7 wks 3 days
    11/11-AMH .47, IVF #2 March 2012...or not!! Surprise BFP on 2/19. Beta #1=161. Beta #2 305 Our little miracle girl is on her way! Due Oct 29, 2012
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  • joules12joules12 member
    No advice (IVF is our only option and we haven't actually even started that) -- just wanted to say sorry about the BFN!  Best wishes with making your decision!
    TTC since honeymoon in 9/2010
    Me: 39, Dx DOR (FSH = 10.5, AMH = 0.43, best AFC = 10), AMA
    MH: 37, Dx Obstructive Azoospermia, multiple successful sperm retrieval procedures

    1/2012: IVF/ICSI #1 Antagonist = cancelled d/t poor response to max stims
    2/2012: IVF/ICSI #2 MDLF (4R, 4M, 1F) = BFP, saw heartbeat, missed m/c 9w0d, D&E
    8/2012: IVF/ICSI #3 EPP/MDLF (7R, 2M, 1F) = BFN

    12/2012: (New RE) Operative hysteroscopy to remove scar tissue

    1/2013: IVF/ICSI #4 Low-dose stim/Antagonist (AFC=6); ER=1/26 (5R-couldn't access rt ovary, 5M, 4F), ET=1/29 (trans 3) = BFP!; 2/11 beta#1(13dp3dt)=2127, 2/13=3367; twin girls due 10/19/13

    PAIF/SAIF very welcome!

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  • farmerlyndafarmerlynda member
    imagedebnut39:

    I am so sorry. Big hugs to you.

    I only have the option of IVF so I can't advise you on the move from IUI but I want to wish you good luck in whatever you decide. IVF is expensive but it sounds like you would be an excellent candidate for success (especially with your age too!). Do you have any insurance coverage of IVF?

    Although IVF is costly, I think the the emotional toll of the whole process is more costly on yourself overall. I say, it will be a short term sacrifice for a long term gain and an excellent investment!! IVF may be the fastest, most efficient way for you to get your little one.

    Does your RE's office offer risk sharing? That can help you with cost. Some offices have it where you get money back from your cycle if you don't have success.

    Take care and good luck!

    I'm pretty sure debnut covered all the points I was going to make!  Well said.

    Best of luck, OP.  

    Severe MFI. Me: supposedly all clear but eggs showed vacuoles.

    IVF #1 January 2012, ER Jan 14th: 34R, 27M, 23F. Day 3: 18 embies still strong. Day 5: zero "good," one "fair," the rest "poor." Transferred 3. None made it to blast or to freeze. Jan 28: BFN.

    Lucky IVF #2: Transferred two beautiful day three embies on St. Patrick's Day. BFP on HPT 7dp3dt. Beta 1 (14dpER)=106; Beta 2 (16dpER)=140; Beta 3 (19dpER)=264! First u/s 4.17.

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  • arbutusbridearbutusbride member
    We decided that even though it was expensive we would try IVF after 4 IUIs (2 cp).  Our RE said that it was a better option so that we could do the genetic testing and see what is going on.  We felt like it was the most logical step and the best chance for getting a baby. From what I have learned, IUI is a good low cost option but after so many cycles, its best to move on.  
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  • lovesred9lovesred9 member

    imagejillychris:
    I'm so sorry about your BFN. They suck! We actually went straight to IVF. At our clinic, the cost of an IUI was about 1/3 of a the cost of an IVF, and we decided with the success rates just to skip straight to IVF. It's definitely a personal decision though and your diagnosis will play more into what your success rates will be with each.

    This was the same for us.  I think our % of an IUI working was like 8-10% where IVF was around 60%.....and 3 IUIs would be about the cost of one IVF, so we went to IVF without any IUIs. 

    IVF w/ ICSI #1 April 2011 12dp3dt beta#1- 49.4 15dp3dt Beta#2- 240.7! 22dp3dt- 4940.4 u/s#1 6w4d- hb 120 u/s#2 8w1d-hb 160 u/s#3 9w4d no hb- missed misscarriage measuring 9w2d D & C IVF #2 BFN IVF #3
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