1. Refresher: Who are you/What's your diagnosis/Why are you here?
i'm liz. i have pcos w/ insulin resistance which for me = long annov cycles and crappy LPs.
2. What was your favorite present you received this holiday and why?
i got a new crock pot! mine fell into the black abyss after i brought it to a potluck function at work. i have the ceramic insert, but not the outer heating element... weirdest thing to have ever happened to one of my appliances by far.
3. What TV show are a you most looking forward to getting back in business after this holiday lull?
we don't have cable, we just watch netflix through our wii we are gonna try and catch up on this season's episodes of the office and HIMYM on hulu though.
4. Do you have New Year's plans? What are they?
a friend of ours from college just bought his first house, so he's throwing a huge party to celebrate. assuming i'm not in the 2ww at that point, i plan on taking full advantage of my still empty womb and drinking myself silly.
in everything give thanks, for this is the will of God, in Christ Jesus, for you
1. Refresher: Who are you/What's your diagnosis/Why are you here? I am Kristi, I have PCOS and I am here because we have been trying for 19 months.
2. What was your favorite present you received this holiday and why?I loved the iPod touch that my H got for me. I didn't really need one but I am enjoying it.
3. What TV show are a you most looking forward to getting back in business after this holiday lull? I like Grey's and Private Practice.
4. Do you have New Year's plans? What are they? My b-day is New Year's so I am sure we are going to do something for that. Not sure what yet, but I am sure food will be involved!
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1. Refresher: Who are you/What's your diagnosis/Why are you here? I have no diagnosis yet. We've been trying 17 months. SA is normal and my "bloodwork" is normal. I say "bloodwork" because the Dr I was seeing (an OB/GYN that treats infertility) did all my bloodwork on CD 25. DH and I will be heading to an RE in a few months to really get going on this.
2. What was your favorite present you received this holiday and why?Oh probably my kitchen knives because they are the best knives I've ever had and they'll last a looooong time
3. What TV show are a you most looking forward to getting back in business after this holiday lull? Grimm, Once Upon a Time, Raising Hope, Downton Abbey, 30 Rock
4. Do you have New Year's plans? What are they? nope ... our anniversary is on the 6th so we'll head out of town for a few days then.
Hormone specialist: CD 21 b/w (May 2012): Normal -- Thyroid: slightly low
RE: CD 2 b/w (Oct 2012): Normal -- HSG (Oct 2012) - normal (for the most part), Retroverted/Retroflexed Uterus. Otherwise normal shape and no tubal blockages.
**Unexplained Infertility**
Second opinion (12/16/13): DH: Excellent SA Me: Slightly elevated AMH, slightly low FSH, low thyroid, extremely low DHEA, Jan 2, 2014: Clomid cycle (100mg), 2 great follies at 28mm and 31mm (no cysts so far), great lining and fantastic timing = BFN Jan 30, 2014: Clomid cycle (100mg) + .5mg Dexamethason + 81mg Aspirin = BFN
2015 Testosterone level was 20. Estradiol & Progesterone also low. Hormone pellets for 1 year + Progesterone. Numbers looked great while on pellets. After pellets, Testosterone down to 5! Taking a break from all the bloodwork & hormones.
2016 Looking at possible Th1 & Th2 elevations. Requesting laparoscopy. Currently taking Pregnitude, "Female Balance" herbs, DHEA.
(On my phone sorry for no formatting) I'm Emily and I'm here for low moatility and low morph. We had to push back our RE appointment to Mar, so that's all I know so far. My cd 21 number was 6.5 (I think, I'm at work so I don't have it in front of me ) My favorites present was my heart necklace from my H, he picked them out himself I can't wait for Modern Family to return and on New Years, a party at my parents as my H works nights. Boo!
TTC Babypants with low motility and low morphology since 6/2010.
I'm alone and bored at home today waiting for my meds to be delivered (yay!), so entertain me in the meantime!
1. Refresher: Who are you/What's your diagnosis/Why are you here? Tanya, annovulation, here for support from awesome gals who share in this crazy experience
2. What was your favorite present you received this holiday and why? me and my sister in laws got Christian Louboutin shoes!!! my parents spoil us big time. :-)
3. What TV show are a you most looking forward to getting back in business after this holiday lull? Two Broke Girls
4. Do you have New Year's plans? What are they? not sure yet. we had to postpone DH's family Christmas due to a terminal illness in the family so we might be heading back to Iowa to celebrate with them.
pip Louboutins please!!!!
Sorry I was driving and just was able to grab the pic off my phone. Its the best I can do right now :-) Dont mind my messy house in the background, ha!
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1. Refresher: Who are you/What's your diagnosis/Why are you here? I'm Nic and my diagnosis is tubal factor IF. I'm here to give and receive amazing support and connect with others dealing with IF.
2. What was your favorite present you received this holiday and why? My favorite present is the beautiful earrings DH surprised me with. He knows me so well and they are perfect.
3. What TV show are a you most looking forward to getting back in business after this holiday lull? I can't wait for the season premiere of Spartacus.
4. Do you have New Year's plans? What are they? Yep, we are going to a friend's house to hang out and ring in 2012.
I am unexplained and have been trying for almost a year and a half. I joined to find others in my same situation because my family history is very fertile and I wasn't expecting to have a hard time. It helps to see that I'm not alone.
DH surprised me with real pearl earrings and a pearl necklace. He hid the earrings in an ornament that has to be opened with a key. He wrapped the key in a big box and I was very confused. It took me a minute to figure out what the key went to..very sweet!
I have been missing Grey's Anatomy..wondering when it's coming back!
For New Year's, I'm meeting some friends in the Outer Banks (NC beaches) which should be nice.
Hope everyone has a great day!
Married Since 09/2006, TTC Since 09/2010
DX: Unexplained infertility, DH normal
3 Femara cycles - Oct, Nov, Dec 2011, all BFNs
IVF #1, ER 2/15 (5R, 4M, 4F), ET 2/18, Beta 2/29 = BFN
Follistim + IUI on 6/25 = BFN
Home Study Finalized 8/14/12! Profile Active - 8/17/12!
Officially Matched 8/29/12, Our perfect angel born 9/25/12!
1. Refresher: Who are you/What's your diagnosis/Why are you here? I am partymama, dx is in my siggy
2. What was your favorite present you received this holiday and why? I got an iphone...I really needed a cell after my last one got dropped in the toilet....eww.
3. What TV show are a you most looking forward to getting back in business after this holiday lull? Once Upon a Time
4. Do you have New Year's plans? What are they? Still deciding, either going up to the mountains (which we do every year), but DH has to work at 8 am the next morning and I don't want him to drive back alone and exhausted after partying all night. So maybe a fancy dinner and cab it to a local party? I don't know...I feel indifferent.
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1. Refresher: Who are you/What's your diagnosis/Why are you here? Kelly, 29 - dx with mild endo in 2006 and PCOS in November.
2. What was your favorite present you received this holiday and why? We adopted a family for Christmas and the joy of giving back to someone else was the best gift to me (corny, but true).
3. What TV show are a you most looking forward to getting back in business after this holiday lull? Parenthood! Best show ever.
4. Do you have New Year's plans? What are they? Low key this year, just going to a couple informal get togethers in our neighborhood.
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1. Refresher: Who are you/What's your diagnosis/Why are you here? I'm DubBub and I have endo stage III. We've been trying for a year a half... 20 cycles.
2. What was your favorite present you received this holiday and why?Diamonds from my husband!
3. What TV show are a you most looking forward to getting back in business after this holiday lull? Grey's
4. Do you have New Year's plans? What are they? Staying home for the first time every. Looking forward to it!
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1. Refresher: Who are you/What's your diagnosis/Why are you here? Dx: MFI due to chemo treatments. Starting IVF in about a week and a half!
2. What was your favorite present you received this holiday and why? A hand painted table from DH's aunt! She did an amazing job and it really looks great in my dinning room.
3. What TV show are a you most looking forward to getting back in business after this holiday lull? Suburgatory and Project Runway!
4. Do you have New Year's plans? What are they? Probably going out to dinner with friends then spending the rest of our night in our pajamas watching the ball drop on tv. It may sound boring but I wouldn't want to do anything else!
Me: 28 DH: 33 MFI: zero sperm (using pre-chemo frozen samples) 9/2011 IUI#1 + 50mg Clomid= BFN
10/2011 IUI#2 100mg Clomid+Trigger=BFN
11/2011 IUI#3 (Last before IVF)100mg Clomid+Trigger=BFN 1/2012 IVF. ER 1/25 (18R 15M 15F) ET 1/29
I'm alone and bored at home today waiting for my meds to be delivered (yay!), so entertain me in the meantime!
1. Refresher: Who are you/What's your diagnosis/Why are you here?
I'm Tiffany. My diagnosis is stage III endo, fibroids and cysts. I'm here because you ladies offer a wealth of knowledge and support in this long lonely journey.
2. What was your favorite present you received this holiday and why?
Favorite present had to be my baking "cook"book that DH got me. I've had my eye on it for a while, and am super excited to try out some recipes from it.
3. What TV show are a you most looking forward to getting back in business after this holiday lull?
Once Upon a Time, Ghost Hunters, Face Off, probably some others I'm forgetting.
4. Do you have New Year's plans? What are they?
No idea what we're doing yet. I want to go to the casino, not sure if DH wants to yet or not.
1. Refresher: Who are you/What's your diagnosis/Why are you here? Kati 34, DH has MFI and I have LPD. We've been TTC since July 09. We'll be starting IUI #3 (this time with injects) in mid/late Jan.
2. What was your favorite present you received this holiday and why? Gift card to massage envy. Because working retail I get very sore muscles! My parents got me a 90 minute massage (tip included) and my MIL got me a $50 card so I'll be able to go twice!
3. What TV show are a you most looking forward to getting back in business after this holiday lull? Modern family or Criminal Minds
4. Do you have New Year's plans? What are they? Nope, I have to work 7am on New Years Day (hello time & a half) so we'll probably be hanging at home on the Eve.
1. Refresher: Who are you/What's your diagnosis/Why are you here? Endometriosis, MFI and Polycystic Ovaries. I'm here because I enjoy talking to women who are experiencing the same things I am.
2. What was your favorite present you received this holiday and why? Green Bay Packers Randall Cobb jersey because I love him.
3. What TV show are a you most looking forward to getting back in business after this holiday lull? I'm too embarrassed to say.
4. Do you have New Year's plans? What are they? Yes. We are going to the UK/UL game and then going to a friends house to watch the ball drop.
MFI, Lap on 7/21/11 - Stage III/IV Endo and Polyps removed by D&C IVF #1 with ICSI - ER 1/20 (16R, 12M, 10F), ET 1/23 (1-10 cell and 1-8cell transferred), BFP on 1/31 Beta #1 on 2/3 = 68, Beta #2 on 2/6 = 261 EDD 10/12/12
Baby girl born 9/22/12
FET #1 - 9/16/13 - BFN
IVF #2 - ER 11/11/13 (24R, 18M, 16F), ET 11/16 (2 Grade A blasts)
1. Refresher: Who are you/What's your diagnosis/Why are you here?
MissTrish, PCOS/IR, I'm mostly lurking for now, we're taking a break from treatment.
2. What was your favorite present you received this holiday and why?
I got tickets to see Kenny Chesney and Tim McGraw in concert this summer from MH. That's my favorite because I haven't been to a concert in SO LONG and I LOVE those guys.
3. What TV show are a you most looking forward to getting back in business after this holiday lull?
Once Upon A Time, True Blood and Game of Thrones
4. Do you have New Year's plans? What are they?
Not really. MH and I are going out with friends for happy hour but we'll be at home most of the night because I work 1st shift New Year's Day.
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1. Refresher: Who are you/What's your diagnosis/Why are you here?
I'm Kate. No official diagnosis yet although amenorrhea is likely a factor. We go back to the doctor in January. I'm here because it's hard seeing all our friends get pregnant easily. It's nice to know I'm not the only one having problems.
2. What was your favorite present you received this holiday and why?
My new printer from MIL because I am slightly obsessed with couponing.
3. What TV show are a you most looking forward to getting back in business after this holiday lull?
Glee and Parenthood.
4. Do you have New Year's plans? What are they?
After I get home from work, DH and I will probably watch tv and cuddle. I'm not big on parties.
1. Refresher: Who are you/What's your diagnosis/Why are you here? I'm Sarah. Diagnosed with PCOS in 2005. Here seeking to get to know the ladies here and learn from them.
2. What was your favorite present you received this holiday and why? The best present I got this holiday was the gift of time with my twin nephews because my sister had complications with that pregnancy, they were delivered 5 1/2 weeks premature, and both had to be recessitated several times in the week after delivery.
3. What TV show are a you most looking forward to getting back in business after this holiday lull? I'm looking forward to more NCIS and NCIS:LA
4. Do you have New Year's plans? What are they? No New Years plans as DH has to work both New Years Eve and New Years Day.
Me: 25
Dx PCOS (June 2006, re-confirmed March 2012), Anemia (May 2010-Still fighting to correct it), Fibromyalgia (May 2011)
Initial b/w - normal
HSG (March 2012) revealed right tube open and looking great. Left tube deformed with hydrosalpinx.
Lap (April 2012) Removal of left fallopian tube. Right tube open and viable, but "rather enlarged." NO evidence of endometriosis...Uterus looks beautiful and "very capable" of carrying a pregnancy!
October 2012 - Clomid 50mg + trigger + IUI = BFN
With all factors taken into account, RE is recommending IVF. Planning on moving forward with treatment as a single woman using DS by Summer 2013.
After 17 months of trying, Surprise BFP #1 2.15.2008 | EDD 8.7.2008 | Lost 2.16.2008
After 2 more years of trying, Surprise BFP #2 1.29.2012 | EDD 9.11.2012 | Lost 1.29.2012
Surprise BFP #3 3.27.2012 | EDD 12/2/2012 | Lost 4.1.2012
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Re: Midweek Poll (regs, newbs, lurkers-come on in!)
1. Refresher: Who are you/What's your diagnosis/Why are you here?
i'm liz. i have pcos w/ insulin resistance which for me = long annov cycles and crappy LPs.
2. What was your favorite present you received this holiday and why?
i got a new crock pot! mine fell into the black abyss after i brought it to a potluck function at work. i have the ceramic insert, but not the outer heating element... weirdest thing to have ever happened to one of my appliances by far.
3. What TV show are a you most looking forward to getting back in business after this holiday lull?
we don't have cable, we just watch netflix through our wii
we are gonna try and catch up on this season's episodes of the office and HIMYM on hulu though.
4. Do you have New Year's plans? What are they?
a friend of ours from college just bought his first house, so he's throwing a huge party to celebrate. assuming i'm not in the 2ww at that point, i plan on taking full advantage of my still empty womb and drinking myself silly.
TTC #1 since Aug. 2010
OB/GYN: DH SA (Sept. 2011): Normal -- Round 1 (11/27/11): 50mg Clomid = BFN -- Round 2 (12/27/11): 50mg Clomid = BFN
Hormone specialist: CD 21 b/w (May 2012): Normal -- Thyroid: slightly low
RE: CD 2 b/w (Oct 2012): Normal -- HSG (Oct 2012) - normal (for the most part), Retroverted/Retroflexed Uterus. Otherwise normal shape and no tubal blockages.
**Unexplained Infertility**
Second opinion (12/16/13):
DH: Excellent SA
Me: Slightly elevated AMH, slightly low FSH, low thyroid, extremely low DHEA,
Jan 2, 2014: Clomid cycle (100mg), 2 great follies at 28mm and 31mm (no cysts so far), great lining and fantastic timing = BFN
Jan 30, 2014: Clomid cycle (100mg) + .5mg Dexamethason + 81mg Aspirin = BFN
2015
Testosterone level was 20. Estradiol & Progesterone also low. Hormone pellets for 1 year + Progesterone. Numbers looked great while on pellets. After pellets, Testosterone down to 5! Taking a break from all the bloodwork & hormones.
2016
Looking at possible Th1 & Th2 elevations. Requesting laparoscopy.
Currently taking Pregnitude, "Female Balance" herbs, DHEA.
Trials & Adventures in Baby Making
Stuck in counting limbo.
SAIF always welcome!!
Fortune from UnderwaterRhymes: A new outlook brightens your image and brings new friends.
Sorry I was driving and just was able to grab the pic off my phone. Its the best I can do right now :-) Dont mind my messy house in the background, ha!
eta: cannot get tiny pic to work...boo!
1. Refresher: Who are you/What's your diagnosis/Why are you here? I'm Nic and my diagnosis is tubal factor IF. I'm here to give and receive amazing support and connect with others dealing with IF.
2. What was your favorite present you received this holiday and why? My favorite present is the beautiful earrings DH surprised me with. He knows me so well and they are perfect.
3. What TV show are a you most looking forward to getting back in business after this holiday lull? I can't wait for the season premiere of Spartacus.
4. Do you have New Year's plans? What are they? Yep, we are going to a friend's house to hang out and ring in 2012.
I am unexplained and have been trying for almost a year and a half. I joined to find others in my same situation because my family history is very fertile and I wasn't expecting to have a hard time. It helps to see that I'm not alone.
DH surprised me with real pearl earrings and a pearl necklace. He hid the earrings in an ornament that has to be opened with a key. He wrapped the key in a big box and I was very confused. It took me a minute to figure out what the key went to..very sweet!
I have been missing Grey's Anatomy..wondering when it's coming back!
For New Year's, I'm meeting some friends in the Outer Banks (NC beaches) which should be nice.
Hope everyone has a great day!
1. Refresher: Who are you/What's your diagnosis/Why are you here? I am partymama, dx is in my siggy
2. What was your favorite present you received this holiday and why? I got an iphone...I really needed a cell after my last one got dropped in the toilet....eww.
3. What TV show are a you most looking forward to getting back in business after this holiday lull? Once Upon a Time
4. Do you have New Year's plans? What are they? Still deciding, either going up to the mountains (which we do every year), but DH has to work at 8 am the next morning and I don't want him to drive back alone and exhausted after partying all night. So maybe a fancy dinner and cab it to a local party? I don't know...I feel indifferent.
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1. Refresher: Who are you/What's your diagnosis/Why are you here? I'm DubBub and I have endo stage III. We've been trying for a year a half... 20 cycles.
2. What was your favorite present you received this holiday and why?Diamonds from my husband!
3. What TV show are a you most looking forward to getting back in business after this holiday lull? Grey's
4. Do you have New Year's plans? What are they? Staying home for the first time every. Looking forward to it!
1. Refresher: Who are you/What's your diagnosis/Why are you here? Dx: MFI due to chemo treatments. Starting IVF in about a week and a half!
2. What was your favorite present you received this holiday and why? A hand painted table from DH's aunt! She did an amazing job and it really looks great in my dinning room.
3. What TV show are a you most looking forward to getting back in business after this holiday lull? Suburgatory and Project Runway!
4. Do you have New Year's plans? What are they? Probably going out to dinner with friends then spending the rest of our night in our pajamas watching the ball drop on tv. It may sound boring but I wouldn't want to do anything else!
MFI: zero sperm (using pre-chemo frozen samples)
9/2011 IUI#1 + 50mg Clomid= BFN
10/2011 IUI#2 100mg Clomid+Trigger=BFN
11/2011 IUI#3 (Last before IVF)100mg Clomid+Trigger=BFN
1/2012 IVF. ER 1/25 (18R 15M 15F) ET 1/29
1. Refresher: Who are you/What's your diagnosis/Why are you here? Kati 34, DH has MFI and I have LPD. We've been TTC since July 09. We'll be starting IUI #3 (this time with injects) in mid/late Jan.
2. What was your favorite present you received this holiday and why? Gift card to massage envy. Because working retail I get very sore muscles! My parents got me a 90 minute massage (tip included) and my MIL got me a $50 card so I'll be able to go twice!
3. What TV show are a you most looking forward to getting back in business after this holiday lull? Modern family or Criminal Minds
4. Do you have New Year's plans? What are they? Nope, I have to work 7am on New Years Day (hello time & a half) so we'll probably be hanging at home on the Eve.
IUI#4 1/23/13 on 75iu x9 Follistim = BFP then chem preg m/c (Feb 2013)
IUI#5 BFN (April 2013)
S/PAIFW , S/PALW
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1. Refresher: Who are you/What's your diagnosis/Why are you here? Endometriosis, MFI and Polycystic Ovaries. I'm here because I enjoy talking to women who are experiencing the same things I am.
2. What was your favorite present you received this holiday and why? Green Bay Packers Randall Cobb jersey because I love him.
3. What TV show are a you most looking forward to getting back in business after this holiday lull? I'm too embarrassed to say.
4. Do you have New Year's plans? What are they? Yes. We are going to the UK/UL game and then going to a friends house to watch the ball drop.
IVF #1 with ICSI - ER 1/20 (16R, 12M, 10F), ET 1/23 (1-10 cell and 1-8cell transferred), BFP on 1/31 Beta #1 on 2/3 = 68, Beta #2 on 2/6 = 261 EDD 10/12/12
1. Refresher: Who are you/What's your diagnosis/Why are you here?
I'm Sara. I have PCOS and we have low motility.
2. What was your favorite present you received this holiday and why?
Dh got me a gift cert to get my hair done!! He listened to what I asked for
3. What TV show are a you most looking forward to getting back in business after this holiday lull?
None, but I love watching my soap operas!
4. Do you have New Year's plans? What are they?
Sitting on the couch with DH while I recover from my lap which is tomorrow...
1. Refresher: Who are you/What's your diagnosis/Why are you here?
MissTrish, PCOS/IR, I'm mostly lurking for now, we're taking a break from treatment.
2. What was your favorite present you received this holiday and why?
I got tickets to see Kenny Chesney and Tim McGraw in concert this summer from MH. That's my favorite because I haven't been to a concert in SO LONG and I LOVE those guys.
3. What TV show are a you most looking forward to getting back in business after this holiday lull?
Once Upon A Time, True Blood and Game of Thrones
4. Do you have New Year's plans? What are they?
Not really. MH and I are going out with friends for happy hour but we'll be at home most of the night because I work 1st shift New Year's Day.
1. Refresher: Who are you/What's your diagnosis/Why are you here?
I'm Kate. No official diagnosis yet although amenorrhea is likely a factor. We go back to the doctor in January. I'm here because it's hard seeing all our friends get pregnant easily. It's nice to know I'm not the only one having problems.
2. What was your favorite present you received this holiday and why?
My new printer from MIL because I am slightly obsessed with couponing.
3. What TV show are a you most looking forward to getting back in business after this holiday lull?
Glee and Parenthood.
4. Do you have New Year's plans? What are they?
After I get home from work, DH and I will probably watch tv and cuddle. I'm not big on parties.
1. Refresher: Who are you/What's your diagnosis/Why are you here?
I'm Sarah. Diagnosed with PCOS in 2005. Here seeking to get to know the ladies here and learn from them.
2. What was your favorite present you received this holiday and why?
The best present I got this holiday was the gift of time with my twin nephews because my sister had complications with that pregnancy, they were delivered 5 1/2 weeks premature, and both had to be recessitated several times in the week after delivery.
3. What TV show are a you most looking forward to getting back in business after this holiday lull?
I'm looking forward to more NCIS and NCIS:LA
4. Do you have New Year's plans? What are they?
No New Years plans as DH has to work both New Years Eve and New Years Day.
Dx PCOS (June 2006, re-confirmed March 2012), Anemia (May 2010-Still fighting to correct it), Fibromyalgia (May 2011)
Initial b/w - normal
HSG (March 2012) revealed right tube open and looking great. Left tube deformed with hydrosalpinx.
Lap (April 2012) Removal of left fallopian tube. Right tube open and viable, but "rather enlarged." NO evidence of endometriosis...Uterus looks beautiful and "very capable" of carrying a pregnancy!
October 2012 - Clomid 50mg + trigger + IUI = BFN
With all factors taken into account, RE is recommending IVF. Planning on moving forward with treatment as a single woman using DS by Summer 2013.
After 17 months of trying, Surprise BFP #1 2.15.2008 | EDD 8.7.2008 | Lost 2.16.2008
After 2 more years of trying, Surprise BFP #2 1.29.2012 | EDD 9.11.2012 | Lost 1.29.2012
Surprise BFP #3 3.27.2012 | EDD 12/2/2012 | Lost 4.1.2012
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1. 3rd grade teacher, unexplained IF. The ladies here give me hope that someone really understands what I'm feeling.
2. Fav present - Ktichen Aid stand mixer. (Guess mom got tried of me stealing her's.
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3. I can't wait until Bones is finally back to the regular schedule.
4. Enjoy New Years - by reliving the final performances at Epoct's Candlelight Processional.