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This is what Dr Sears thinks about..

Before I finish this sentence, I just have to say that I am posting this because of all of the CIO posts around here.  Yesterday I read that some woman let their babies cry until they vomit.  This is terrible.  What you do in your home is your business, it's your baby, but I just don't agree with letting your LO get that worked up.  Anyway, I usually don't post touchy subjects, yet after googling "baby falls asleep with nipple in mouth", I found Dr. Sears website.  On that page he talks about remembering your goal as a nightime parent...

"This goal is very different from training baby to sleep through the night as soon as possible by denying him parental comfort, in other words, letting him cry. This can lead to children developing unhealthy attitudes toward sleep. Worse, they learn that they can't depend on parents to meet their nighttime needs. Meanwhile, mom and dad become less sensitive to their child's signals.

With the cry-it-out method, what's the lesson baby learns? "They aren't going to come, so I may as well give up," or "It doesn't matter how I feel." Less-persistent babies give up quickly. Since they can't trust parents to be there, they "cope" and learn a big lesson: You have to look after number one because no one else will.Think of nighttime parenting as a long-term investment. The middle-of-the- night time you put in now will save you sleep in the years ahead. Your children will sleep well when they are older, and the good relationship you have built with them will keep you from lying awake at night worrying when they are teenagers and young adults."        
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Re: This is what Dr Sears thinks about..

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    The posters posting about babies crying until they vomit were those who choose not to sleep train.

    Does Dr. Sears have an opinion on reading comprehension?

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  • I could have bet a million dollars that you were the first one to reply.

    btw...I do have a reading comprehension.  happy now? :D 

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  • Usually I'm a fan of Dr Sears but I think he's way off the mark now. He's playing into a parent's guilt and tying in emotions that he himself don't know for certain.

    What I don't get is how my 3.5 year old seems so darn attached to me, sleeps well, doesn't have nightmares, expresses himself emotionally, is physically affectionate with DH and I and those around him, plays well with others, doesn't see shadows in his room, likes to read nursery rhymthes and doesn't freak out about Humpty Dumpty not being put back together again AND we did CIO when he was 6 months old? And the funny thing too was when we did CIO he became a happier baby? What gives? I

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  • I guess dr sears is the ultimate authority on infant sleep
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    Usually I'm a fan of Dr Sears but I think he's way off the mark now. He's playing into a parent's guilt and tying in emotions that he himself don't know for certain.

    What I don't get is how my 3.5 year old seems so darn attached to me, sleeps well, doesn't have nightmares, expresses himself emotionally, is physically affectionate with DH and I and those around him, plays well with others, doesn't see shadows in his room, likes to read nursery rhymthes and doesn't freak out about Humpty Dumpty not being put back together again AND we did CIO when he was 6 months old? And the funny thing too was when we did CIO he became a happier baby? What gives? I

    And I bet you became a much better mother as you were more rested.  

    Seriously, OP. There is another discussion about this a few posts below. We really didn't need a rehash with Attachment Parenting extraordinaire, Dr. Sears rants involved. Thanks, but you're not getting your point across AT ALL.

    People on either side will do as they please. This "debate" as Skio said earlier, is pathetic.   

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  • i got your attention though...didn't i?  i just felt like sharing what i came across on the internet.  
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  • imagegymnst1013:
    I guess dr sears is the ultimate authority on infant sleep

    My thoughts exactly.  

     


  • I think Dr. Sears is a bit of an idiot, but that has nothing to do with his ideas about this particular subject.  However, I do not believe in CIO.  (I do consider myself AP.)  

    When I posted on the other thread I did not realize that there were a million posts about this subject.  I'm going to step away now.   

  • Why do you care what someone does with their own child? Is it illegal to let LO CIO?

    We aren't doing it yet because I'm not sure if it would work (DS seems like he is actually hungry at night and seems like he is in a huge growth spurt+teething) and because I can't let him wake up my husband. It's great that you know what's best for your child but let everyone else parent their own children.

    I am getting very sick of judge-y moms IRL and online. Angry

  • imagedarmca:

    Why do you care what someone does with their own child? Is it illegal to let LO CIO?

    We aren't doing it yet because I'm not sure if it would work (DS seems like he is actually hungry at night and seems like he is in a huge growth spurt+teething) and because I can't let him wake up my husband. It's great that you know what's best for your child but let everyone else parent their own children.

    I am getting very sick of judge-y moms IRL and online. Angry

    first off, take a deep breath.  second, i am not judging anyone on their parenting skills.  if this is how you want to do things, so be it.  this is a free forum to post what we want.  


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  • You're not judging...riiiiggghhhtttt. Keep telling yourself that.

     

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  • imageLisa Frank:

    You're not judging...riiiiggghhhtttt. Keep telling yourself that.

     

    like you're one to talk about being judge-y.  oh and telling people to get off their high horse...you think you're president of the bump. 

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  • look, i don't want this to turn childish and my defenses are borderlining that.  all i wanted to do is post something.  you post your stuff, i'll post mine.

     merry, merry. 

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    imageLisa Frank:

    You're not judging...riiiiggghhhtttt. Keep telling yourself that.

     

    like you're one to talk about being judge-y.  oh and telling people to get off their high horse...you think you're president of the bump. 

     This is so awesome I don't even know what to say. Thank you for my inauguration?

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  • imagehappybride14:

    look, i don't want this to turn childish and my defenses are borderlining that.  all i wanted to do is post something.  you post your stuff, i'll post mine.

     merry, merry. 

    Yeah, I don't know you...but I'll agree here.  

    I'm sick of the judging. Do I do it? Sure. When it comes to sleep training, I get extra defensive because I endured a lot of b.s. on these boards when my DS was young and I advocated sleep training. I'm enduring it now to some (small) extent. A lot of people didn't want to listen....and then they found themselves with no other choice. So, yes.  Posts like this, and the one with a lot of replies get under my skin.

    Don't ever say NEVER. As a parent, you have no idea what you will be faced with. And pitting other mothers against each other isn't effective no matter how you spin it.

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  • Oh my God, I don't let my daughter CIO, nor have we done any kind of sleep training, and I'll be the first to admit that the people who don't CIO/sleep train are tens of thousands times more annoying and judgey and preachy than those who do (on this board, anyway).

    Get over yourselves, women.  Don't you have a baby to rock to sleep or something?

    ETA: I am irked by the phrase "I do not believe in CIO."  CIO exists, it's not the Easter Bunny.  You may not practice it, but you probably believe it's real.

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  • please re-read my post.  i never said that "i do not believe in CIO".  i just hope people are not letting their LOs get so worked up that they are hysterical...that is all.   

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    Oh my God, I don't let my daughter CIO, nor have we done any kind of sleep training, and I'll be the first to admit that the people who don't CIO/sleep train are tens of thousands times more annoying and judgey and preachy than those who do (on this board, anyway).

    Get over yourselves, women.  Don't you have a baby to rock to sleep or something?

    ETA: I am irked by the phrase "I do not believe in CIO."  CIO exists, it's not the Easter Bunny.  You may not practice it, but you probably believe it's real.

    This!  The judgey ones on this subject are always the ones who don't sleep train at all and have 10 month olds who still wake up 6 times per night.  Go away, OP!

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    imageJNBrickey:

    Oh my God, I don't let my daughter CIO, nor have we done any kind of sleep training, and I'll be the first to admit that the people who don't CIO/sleep train are tens of thousands times more annoying and judgey and preachy than those who do (on this board, anyway).

    Get over yourselves, women.  Don't you have a baby to rock to sleep or something?

    ETA: I am irked by the phrase "I do not believe in CIO."  CIO exists, it's not the Easter Bunny.  You may not practice it, but you probably believe it's real.

    This!  The judgey ones on this subject are always the ones who don't sleep train at all and have 10 month olds who still wake up 6 times per night.  Go away, OP!

    i'd be glad to since i obviously can't express how i feel on the bump.  no wonder why so many women hopped over to FB.  

    let's not forget the people who judge the mothers who let their LO's watch t.v., or eat solids before 4 months...but god forbid we speak against CIO. 

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  • imagehappybride14:
    imagelaurakaz13:
    imageJNBrickey:

    Oh my God, I don't let my daughter CIO, nor have we done any kind of sleep training, and I'll be the first to admit that the people who don't CIO/sleep train are tens of thousands times more annoying and judgey and preachy than those who do (on this board, anyway).

    Get over yourselves, women.  Don't you have a baby to rock to sleep or something?

    ETA: I am irked by the phrase "I do not believe in CIO."  CIO exists, it's not the Easter Bunny.  You may not practice it, but you probably believe it's real.

    This!  The judgey ones on this subject are always the ones who don't sleep train at all and have 10 month olds who still wake up 6 times per night.  Go away, OP!

    i'd be glad to since i obviously can't express how i feel on the bump.  no wonder why so many women hopped over to FB.  

    let's not forget the people who judge the mothers who let their LO's watch t.v., or eat solids before 4 months...but god forbid we speak against CIO. 

    This makes no sense. 

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    imagehappybride14:
    imagelaurakaz13:
    imageJNBrickey:

    Oh my God, I don't let my daughter CIO, nor have we done any kind of sleep training, and I'll be the first to admit that the people who don't CIO/sleep train are tens of thousands times more annoying and judgey and preachy than those who do (on this board, anyway).

    Get over yourselves, women.  Don't you have a baby to rock to sleep or something?

    ETA: I am irked by the phrase "I do not believe in CIO."  CIO exists, it's not the Easter Bunny.  You may not practice it, but you probably believe it's real.

    This!  The judgey ones on this subject are always the ones who don't sleep train at all and have 10 month olds who still wake up 6 times per night.  Go away, OP!

    i'd be glad to since i obviously can't express how i feel on the bump.  no wonder why so many women hopped over to FB.  

    let's not forget the people who judge the mothers who let their LO's watch t.v., or eat solids before 4 months...but god forbid we speak against CIO. 

    This makes no sense. 

    you've never judged...ever?   

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  • imagelaurakaz13:
    imageJNBrickey:

    Oh my God, I don't let my daughter CIO, nor have we done any kind of sleep training, and I'll be the first to admit that the people who don't CIO/sleep train are tens of thousands times more annoying and judgey and preachy than those who do (on this board, anyway).

    Get over yourselves, women.  Don't you have a baby to rock to sleep or something?

    ETA: I am irked by the phrase "I do not believe in CIO."  CIO exists, it's not the Easter Bunny.  You may not practice it, but you probably believe it's real.

    This!  The judgey ones on this subject are always the ones who don't sleep train at all and have 10 month olds who still wake up 6 times per night.  Go away, OP!

    wow ladies.  do what works for you & your families... why are you getting so up in arms over this?

     and for the record I actually don't believe in practicing CIO. yes it exists, but i don't believe it to be a practical solution. but then again, my LO has STTN since 4 months, so we've never had this issue.  just because some of us don't need to sleep train doesn't mean our LOs are "waking up 6 times per night" and we're judging you for what you deem neccesary for you.  we all love our LO's and take steps we think neccesary for their welbeing.

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    imagelaurakaz13:
    imagehappybride14:
    imagelaurakaz13:
    imageJNBrickey:

    Oh my God, I don't let my daughter CIO, nor have we done any kind of sleep training, and I'll be the first to admit that the people who don't CIO/sleep train are tens of thousands times more annoying and judgey and preachy than those who do (on this board, anyway).

    Get over yourselves, women.  Don't you have a baby to rock to sleep or something?

    ETA: I am irked by the phrase "I do not believe in CIO."  CIO exists, it's not the Easter Bunny.  You may not practice it, but you probably believe it's real.

    This!  The judgey ones on this subject are always the ones who don't sleep train at all and have 10 month olds who still wake up 6 times per night.  Go away, OP!

    i'd be glad to since i obviously can't express how i feel on the bump.  no wonder why so many women hopped over to FB.  

    let's not forget the people who judge the mothers who let their LO's watch t.v., or eat solids before 4 months...but god forbid we speak against CIO. 

    This makes no sense. 

    you've never judged...ever?   

    Sure, I've judged.  But I have never posted one of these "I'm such a superior mother than all of you" posts before, using a quote from Dr. Sears, the most ridiculously one-side doctor on the face of the Earth.

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  • imagehappybride14:
    imagelaurakaz13:
    imageJNBrickey:

    Oh my God, I don't let my daughter CIO, nor have we done any kind of sleep training, and I'll be the first to admit that the people who don't CIO/sleep train are tens of thousands times more annoying and judgey and preachy than those who do (on this board, anyway).

    Get over yourselves, women.  Don't you have a baby to rock to sleep or something?

    ETA: I am irked by the phrase "I do not believe in CIO."  CIO exists, it's not the Easter Bunny.  You may not practice it, but you probably believe it's real.

    This!  The judgey ones on this subject are always the ones who don't sleep train at all and have 10 month olds who still wake up 6 times per night.  Go away, OP!

    i'd be glad to since i obviously can't express how i feel on the bump.  no wonder why so many women hopped over to FB.  

    let's not forget the people who judge the mothers who let their LO's watch t.v., or eat solids before 4 months...but god forbid we speak against CIO. 

    This all makes sense now. 

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  • Oy. Yet another CIO post. My opinion on this is the same as my son's:

    "blaaa bla bla bla blaaaa thhhppppppppp."

    Wink

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    wow ladies.  do what works for you & your families... why are you getting so up in arms over this?

     and for the record I actually don't believe in practicing CIO. yes it exists, but i don't believe it to be a practical solution. but then again, my LO has STTN since 4 months, so we've never had this issue.  just because some of us don't need to sleep train doesn't mean our LOs are "waking up 6 times per night" and we're judging you for what you deem neccesary for you.  we all love our LO's and take steps we think neccesary for their welbeing.

    Okay, I haven't done CIO, mainly because I can't take it, but this made me LOL.

    It's easy to "not believe it to be a practical solution" when you've had a baby who has STTN since 4 months. My DS started STTN early on too, and rather than preach about what I believe to be a "practical solution" for parents who haven't been as lucky as me (because, yes, it is just luck of the draw), I have empathy for them.  Not sleeping sucks. I don't know every baby out there. So while it may not be something I would do personally, I sure as hell can't say it's not practical for anyone, ever. On the contrary, it's worked very well for many families.

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  • imageLisa Frank:
    imagehappybride14:
    imagelaurakaz13:
    imageJNBrickey:

    Oh my God, I don't let my daughter CIO, nor have we done any kind of sleep training, and I'll be the first to admit that the people who don't CIO/sleep train are tens of thousands times more annoying and judgey and preachy than those who do (on this board, anyway).

    Get over yourselves, women.  Don't you have a baby to rock to sleep or something?

    ETA: I am irked by the phrase "I do not believe in CIO."  CIO exists, it's not the Easter Bunny.  You may not practice it, but you probably believe it's real.

    This!  The judgey ones on this subject are always the ones who don't sleep train at all and have 10 month olds who still wake up 6 times per night.  Go away, OP!

    i'd be glad to since i obviously can't express how i feel on the bump.  no wonder why so many women hopped over to FB.  

    let's not forget the people who judge the mothers who let their LO's watch t.v., or eat solids before 4 months...but god forbid we speak against CIO. 

    This all makes sense now. 

    Wait a second, are you from the FB page? I know I haven't seen you there. o.O. And LF- Is your daughters name CeCe or is it a nickname? I had a good friend in high school who was actually named CeCe and wasn't sure. 

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    Wait a second, are you from the FB page? I know I haven't seen you there. o.O. And LF- Is your daughters name CeCe or is it a nickname? I had a good friend in high school who was actually named CeCe and wasn't sure. 

    No, I am not a part of the FB page. For obvious reasons, some of which I have already stated. However, this made sense to me since I didn't recognize her name and she had called me out as "judge-y." (hey, I never said I wasn't...)

    And my daughter is nn Cece (see-see) aka Cecilia. :)

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  • imageJaylea:
    imageAmaryllis619:

    wow ladies.  do what works for you & your families... why are you getting so up in arms over this?

     and for the record I actually don't believe in practicing CIO. yes it exists, but i don't believe it to be a practical solution. but then again, my LO has STTN since 4 months, so we've never had this issue.  just because some of us don't need to sleep train doesn't mean our LOs are "waking up 6 times per night" and we're judging you for what you deem neccesary for you.  we all love our LO's and take steps we think neccesary for their welbeing.

    Okay, I haven't done CIO, mainly because I can't take it, but this made me LOL.

    It's easy to "not believe it to be a practical solution" when you've had a baby who has STTN since 4 months. My DS started STTN early on too, and rather than preach about what I believe to be a "practical solution" for parents who haven't been as lucky as me (because, yes, it is just luck of the draw), I have empathy for them.  Not sleeping sucks. I don't know every baby out there. So while it may not be something I would do personally, I sure as hell can't say it's not practical for anyone, ever. On the contrary, it's worked very well for many families.

    for the record, I didn't say it's not practical for anyone ever.  I was just trying to point out that I haven't had to resort to it.  If that's what they need to do for them and it works for their family, great!  lucky for me my baby STTN, i couldn't take CIO personally. but if i wasn't getting sleep for days at a time, i'm sure i'd have a different tune.  i was trying to just say, stop the judgy and play nice. we all do what is in our LO's best interest because we love them. that is all.

  • imageLisa Frank:
    imagemegbaby13:

    Wait a second, are you from the FB page? I know I haven't seen you there. o.O. And LF- Is your daughters name CeCe or is it a nickname? I had a good friend in high school who was actually named CeCe and wasn't sure. 

    No, I am not a part of the FB page. For obvious reasons, some of which I have already stated. However, this made sense to me since I didn't recognize her name and she had called me out as "judge-y." (hey, I never said I wasn't...)

    And my daughter is nn Cece (see-see) aka Cecilia. :)

     

    I should have separated my post lol. I meant that towards happybride. I know I haven't seen that name around here and also I have yet to see that sn on FB. I just don't want to see the FB page blamed for something that wasn't us. 

     

    Anyways, I love the name Cecilia. That  name was a top choice. :) 

  • imagemegbaby13:
    imageLisa Frank:
    imagemegbaby13:

    Wait a second, are you from the FB page? I know I haven't seen you there. o.O. And LF- Is your daughters name CeCe or is it a nickname? I had a good friend in high school who was actually named CeCe and wasn't sure. 

    No, I am not a part of the FB page. For obvious reasons, some of which I have already stated. However, this made sense to me since I didn't recognize her name and she had called me out as "judge-y." (hey, I never said I wasn't...)

    And my daughter is nn Cece (see-see) aka Cecilia. :)

     

    I should have separated my post lol. I meant that towards happybride. I know I haven't seen that name around here and also I have yet to see that sn on FB. I just don't want to see the FB page blamed for something that wasn't us. 

     

    Anyways, I love the name Cecilia. That  name was a top choice. :) 

    no, i am not on FB.   i have been on these boards for over 6 months.   i mentioned the FB page because i remember many months ago, there was some drama going on around here (may '11 board) and some of the ladies headed over to FB to avoid the drama.  i could totally be wrong and am sorry if i am but that's what i got from some of their old posts.  

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