Which name do you like and why?

Ward0317

Hi ladies I am having a hard time choosing a name for my baby boy due in May.  I though that if you gave me your opinion and why you like the name over the other name, then it would be easier to make a decision. Thank you so much![Poll]

inspired4life

I only know of Cohen as a last name so I chose Carter, and I'm not sure how to pronounce the middle name but there was only one option for MN

Ward0317

Darveaux is his last name i havent decided on a middle name yet. Its french and pronounced Darvo

Kelli7025

Carter is on our short list for boys, so I obviously love that name ! I say an adorable Carter the other day leaving Kindergarten !

I also like Cohen, but have only heard it as a last name on The O.C. I used to love that show, and I really like the name as a first name.

led2009

I actually like both but I chose Carter because there seems to be a lot of controversy over Cohen. Aparently it's an important name or word for Jews and could offend Jewish people. That's about as much as I know so you may want to do a bit of research on the subject.

hmr22

I love Carter, but it also has a family significance for me.

Pearl16

Before you continue to consider Cohen, I would do a little research on the controversy that surrounds it: https://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2009/05/05/the-big-baby-naming-battle.html

Laurakat81

 

My vote is for Carter. I just think it sounds better than Cohen personally.

I just read the above article too. I can see why some people would take offense to the name. But I'm not convinced its really that big of a deal. Someone in the article compared the name to Jesus but I thought that was a bit ridiculous.  Jesus is the son of God...that doesn't really compare to a priest. So a better comparison would simply be to name your child "Priest" or "Preacher" or "Deacon" or "Father". All are a little (or a lot unusual but I wouldn't take offense if a non-Christian named their child that). A Kohen (the way I understand it) is a Jewish priest and Cohen is simply a common last name. 

I'd have to talk to a few Jewish friends to get a better perspective of the name I suppose if I was considering using it but honestly so far I'm not convinced its offensive or a big deal at all.

BlueRidge8

I would not give my child a name that would be potentially offensive - or at least -make me look like I didn't do any research before picking his/her name.

So I'll vote Carter. 

Pearl16

Laurakat81:

 

My vote is for Carter. I just think it sounds better than Cohen personally.

I just read the above article too. I can see why some people would take offense to the name. But I'm not convinced its really that big of a deal. Someone in the article compared the name to Jesus but I thought that was a bit ridiculous.  Jesus is the son of God...that doesn't really compare to a priest. So a better comparison would simply be to name your child "Priest" or "Preacher" or "Deacon" or "Father". All are a little (or a lot unusual but I wouldn't take offense if a non-Christian named their child that). A Kohen (the way I understand it) is a Jewish priest and Cohen is simply a common last name. 

I'd have to talk to a few Jewish friends to get a better perspective of the name I suppose if I was considering using it but honestly so far I'm not convinced its offensive or a big deal at all.

It doesn't matter whether or not YOU think it's offensive. The fact of the matter is some people do find it offensive. It's her decision, but I, personally, would not want to choose a name that I knew might offend a group of people, no matter how "ridiculous" their concerns may seem.

JMU_Bride09

I think that Cohen flows better with the middle name.

guilletskichuk

I voted for Carter because even though I like Cohen, I find it is a bit difficult to say...and because I know of so many little Cohens. It's definitely a trendy name among moms I know.

Dominique1219

BlueRidge8:

I would not give my child a name that would be potentially offensive - or at least -make me look like I didn't do any research before picking his/her name.

So I'll vote Carter. 

 

Same.  I don't care for Carter, but I voted for it because I don't think it's fair to name a kid something that may offend others--he'll have to deal with it for the rest of his life, not you.

callalilly323

I think this new trend of naming children Cohen is ridiculous. It's a Jewish last name. Leave it as such.

TUGOsQueen

Cohen.

Carter is ridiculously overused and I'm over hearing Carter, Cooper, Carson, etc.

Religion definitely did not come to mind when I heard Cohen.

Dominique1219

TUGOsQueen:

Cohen.

Carter is ridiculously overused and I'm over hearing Carter, Cooper, Carson, etc.

Religion definitely did not come to mind when I heard Cohen.

 

But that's the problem--people are ignorant to the fact that this is an important/sacred surname to Jews; and then those ignorant people name their kids that...and the kid has to deal with it forever, not the ignorant parent.  Names need to be researched well before being used.

Kelli7025

Dominique1219:

TUGOsQueen:

Cohen.

Carter is ridiculously overused and I'm over hearing Carter, Cooper, Carson, etc.

Religion definitely did not come to mind when I heard Cohen.

 

But that's the problem--people are ignorant to the fact that this is an important/sacred surname to Jews; and then those ignorant people name their kids that...and the kid has to deal with it forever, not the ignorant parent.  Names need to be researched well before being used.

So because I am Roman Catholic and went to a Catholic grade school where I was taught Catholicism I am ignorant ?

Not everyone spends their free time memorizing religious last names.

That was a very rude comment to make about a large majority of people who are not Jewish and would not know the history behind that name.

BlueRidge8

Kelli7025:

Dominique1219:

TUGOsQueen:

Cohen.

Carter is ridiculously overused and I'm over hearing Carter, Cooper, Carson, etc.

Religion definitely did not come to mind when I heard Cohen.

 

But that's the problem--people are ignorant to the fact that this is an important/sacred surname to Jews; and then those ignorant people name their kids that...and the kid has to deal with it forever, not the ignorant parent.  Names need to be researched well before being used.

So because I am Roman Catholic and went to a Catholic grade school where I was taught Catholicism I am ignorant ?

Not everyone spends their free time memorizing religious last names.

That was a very rude comment to make about a large majority of people who are not Jewish and would not know the history behind that name.

But a quick Google search of any name you are thinking of is not a lot to ask. 

Ward0317

My question is if I name my son Cohen who is actually going to come up to him and say ps your name offends me. I mean That is more rude than naming you r child Cohen. I understand that it could be offensive but seriously who would make fun of you. I could see it being more offensive to older people than people his age. but i dont know.

Dominique1219

Kelli7025:

Dominique1219:

TUGOsQueen:

Cohen.

Carter is ridiculously overused and I'm over hearing Carter, Cooper, Carson, etc.

Religion definitely did not come to mind when I heard Cohen.

 

But that's the problem--people are ignorant to the fact that this is an important/sacred surname to Jews; and then those ignorant people name their kids that...and the kid has to deal with it forever, not the ignorant parent.  Names need to be researched well before being used.

So because I am Roman Catholic and went to a Catholic grade school where I was taught Catholicism I am ignorant ?

Not everyone spends their free time memorizing religious last names.

That was a very rude comment to make about a large majority of people who are not Jewish and would not know the history behind that name.

 

Here's a definition of ignorant from webster's:

"Lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular"

So no, you aren't ignorant (as you interpreted the word) because you were raised Roman Catholic--but it would be ignorant to choose to use a name you know nothing about and decide not to research it.

And that is the whole point---know the history behind a name before choosing it.  I personally think it's rude to blindly use a name that is potentially offensive to a group of people.

BlueRidge8

Ward0317:

My question is if I name my son Cohen who is actually going to come up to him and say ps your name offends me. I mean That is more rude than naming you r child Cohen. I understand that it could be offensive but seriously who would make fun of you. I could see it being more offensive to older people than people his age. but i dont know.

*facepalm*

Dominique1219

BlueRidge8:

Ward0317:

My question is if I name my son Cohen who is actually going to come up to him and say ps your name offends me. I mean That is more rude than naming you r child Cohen. I understand that it could be offensive but seriously who would make fun of you. I could see it being more offensive to older people than people his age. but i dont know.

*facepalm*

 

I agree with the facepalm.  

 

So you're okay with people being offended, but you'd be offended if people said they were offended?  Fantastic.

Kelli7025

BlueRidge8:

Kelli7025:

Dominique1219:

TUGOsQueen:

Cohen.

Carter is ridiculously overused and I'm over hearing Carter, Cooper, Carson, etc.

Religion definitely did not come to mind when I heard Cohen.

 

But that's the problem--people are ignorant to the fact that this is an important/sacred surname to Jews; and then those ignorant people name their kids that...and the kid has to deal with it forever, not the ignorant parent.  Names need to be researched well before being used.

So because I am Roman Catholic and went to a Catholic grade school where I was taught Catholicism I am ignorant ?

Not everyone spends their free time memorizing religious last names.

That was a very rude comment to make about a large majority of people who are not Jewish and would not know the history behind that name.

But a quick Google search of any name you are thinking of is not a lot to ask. 

I do agree that some research should be done, but lets play this controversy this way.

I am Roman Catholic and the Pope is our highest leader in the church. One of the most loved Popes to the Roman Catholic community is the late Pope John Paul II. John and Paul are both very common and classic male names. But what if someone on this board wanted to use the name John, and I completely went off the deep end saying that it was a Cathlolic name and it was ignorant for any random person to use that name. I would recieve comments left and right about how people other then Catholics can use the name John.

To me baby names are neutral. Yes one might imply a certain religion, nationality, or gender, but I dont believe that names can be claimed by a specific to group as "off limits" to others.

You dont see Christians getting all up in arms over the Hispanic name Jesus (Hey-seus). That name is very important to religious people, however, we cant claim it as a name that only we can use.

Dominique1219

Kelli7025:

BlueRidge8:

Kelli7025:

Dominique1219:

TUGOsQueen:

Cohen.

Carter is ridiculously overused and I'm over hearing Carter, Cooper, Carson, etc.

Religion definitely did not come to mind when I heard Cohen.

 

But that's the problem--people are ignorant to the fact that this is an important/sacred surname to Jews; and then those ignorant people name their kids that...and the kid has to deal with it forever, not the ignorant parent.  Names need to be researched well before being used.

So because I am Roman Catholic and went to a Catholic grade school where I was taught Catholicism I am ignorant ?

Not everyone spends their free time memorizing religious last names.

That was a very rude comment to make about a large majority of people who are not Jewish and would not know the history behind that name.

But a quick Google search of any name you are thinking of is not a lot to ask. 

I do agree that some research should be done, but lets play this controversy this way.

I am Roman Catholic and the Pope is our highest leader in the church. One of the most loved Popes to the Roman Catholic community is the late Pope John Paul II. John and Paul are both very common and classic male names. But what if someone on this board wanted to use the name John, and I completely went off the deep end saying that it was a Cathlolic name and it was ignorant for any random person to use that name. I would recieve comments left and right about how people other then Catholics can use the name John.

To me baby names are neutral. Yes one might imply a certain religion, nationality, or gender, but I dont believe that names can be claimed by a specific to group as "off limits" to others.

You dont see Christians getting all up in arms over the Hispanic name Jesus (Hey-seus). That name is very important to religious people, however, we cant claim it as a name that only we can use.

You missed the point.  If you used the argument of people who aren't Catholic naming their son "Pope," I would agree--that's a name that shouldn't be used.  Paul and John are not names that are only reserved for Catholic popes.

 Also, Hispanic cultures are most prevalently Christian...so now you are segregating "we" (white Christians) from "hispanics" (non-white Christians).  So it's ok for white Christians to use Jesus, but not hispanic Christians?

jolynn326

Dominique1219:

Kelli7025:

BlueRidge8:

Kelli7025:

Dominique1219:

TUGOsQueen:

Cohen.

Carter is ridiculously overused and I'm over hearing Carter, Cooper, Carson, etc.

Religion definitely did not come to mind when I heard Cohen.

 

But that's the problem--people are ignorant to the fact that this is an important/sacred surname to Jews; and then those ignorant people name their kids that...and the kid has to deal with it forever, not the ignorant parent.  Names need to be researched well before being used.

So because I am Roman Catholic and went to a Catholic grade school where I was taught Catholicism I am ignorant ?

Not everyone spends their free time memorizing religious last names.

That was a very rude comment to make about a large majority of people who are not Jewish and would not know the history behind that name.

But a quick Google search of any name you are thinking of is not a lot to ask. 

I do agree that some research should be done, but lets play this controversy this way.

I am Roman Catholic and the Pope is our highest leader in the church. One of the most loved Popes to the Roman Catholic community is the late Pope John Paul II. John and Paul are both very common and classic male names. But what if someone on this board wanted to use the name John, and I completely went off the deep end saying that it was a Cathlolic name and it was ignorant for any random person to use that name. I would recieve comments left and right about how people other then Catholics can use the name John.

To me baby names are neutral. Yes one might imply a certain religion, nationality, or gender, but I dont believe that names can be claimed by a specific to group as "off limits" to others.

You dont see Christians getting all up in arms over the Hispanic name Jesus (Hey-seus). That name is very important to religious people, however, we cant claim it as a name that only we can use.

You missed the point.  If you used the argument of people who aren't Catholic naming their son "Pope," I would agree--that's a name that shouldn't be used.  Paul and John are not names that are only reserved for Catholic popes.

 Also, Hispanic cultures are most prevalently Christian...so now you are segregating "we" (white Christians) from "hispanics" (non-white Christians).  So it's ok for white Christians to use Jesus, but not hispanic Christians?

Lurker on this thread, but I wanted to say that this helped me better understand the issue.

annerz22

Kelli7025:

BlueRidge8:

Kelli7025:

Dominique1219:

TUGOsQueen:

Cohen.

Carter is ridiculously overused and I'm over hearing Carter, Cooper, Carson, etc.

Religion definitely did not come to mind when I heard Cohen.

 

But that's the problem--people are ignorant to the fact that this is an important/sacred surname to Jews; and then those ignorant people name their kids that...and the kid has to deal with it forever, not the ignorant parent.  Names need to be researched well before being used.

So because I am Roman Catholic and went to a Catholic grade school where I was taught Catholicism I am ignorant ?

Not everyone spends their free time memorizing religious last names.

That was a very rude comment to make about a large majority of people who are not Jewish and would not know the history behind that name.

But a quick Google search of any name you are thinking of is not a lot to ask. 

I do agree that some research should be done, but lets play this controversy this way.

I am Roman Catholic and the Pope is our highest leader in the church. One of the most loved Popes to the Roman Catholic community is the late Pope John Paul II. John and Paul are both very common and classic male names. But what if someone on this board wanted to use the name John, and I completely went off the deep end saying that it was a Cathlolic name and it was ignorant for any random person to use that name. I would recieve comments left and right about how people other then Catholics can use the name John.

To me baby names are neutral. Yes one might imply a certain religion, nationality, or gender, but I dont believe that names can be claimed by a specific to group as "off limits" to others.

You dont see Christians getting all up in arms over the Hispanic name Jesus (Hey-seus). That name is very important to religious people, however, we cant claim it as a name that only we can use.

I have to butt in here....

If a baby were named "Pope John Paul" then yes, it could be offensive- but John and Paul by themselves don't hold the same religious meaning. Yes, they were apostles, but they were followers of Jesus just like you or me so that argument doesn't really make sense.

Hispanics naming their children Jesus tend to be Catholic. I don't think you really hear a Buddhist or a Muslim naming their child Jesus. Naming your child Choen when not Jewish, would be like a Jewish person or any othe non-Catholic person naming their child Trinity. It's just silly since the meaning behind it is very holy.

ETA wording

Pearl16

Kelli7025:

BlueRidge8:

Kelli7025:

Dominique1219:

TUGOsQueen:

Cohen.

Carter is ridiculously overused and I'm over hearing Carter, Cooper, Carson, etc.

Religion definitely did not come to mind when I heard Cohen.

 

But that's the problem--people are ignorant to the fact that this is an important/sacred surname to Jews; and then those ignorant people name their kids that...and the kid has to deal with it forever, not the ignorant parent.  Names need to be researched well before being used.

So because I am Roman Catholic and went to a Catholic grade school where I was taught Catholicism I am ignorant ?

Not everyone spends their free time memorizing religious last names.

That was a very rude comment to make about a large majority of people who are not Jewish and would not know the history behind that name.

But a quick Google search of any name you are thinking of is not a lot to ask. 

I do agree that some research should be done, but lets play this controversy this way.

I am Roman Catholic and the Pope is our highest leader in the church. One of the most loved Popes to the Roman Catholic community is the late Pope John Paul II. John and Paul are both very common and classic male names. But what if someone on this board wanted to use the name John, and I completely went off the deep end saying that it was a Cathlolic name and it was ignorant for any random person to use that name. I would recieve comments left and right about how people other then Catholics can use the name John.

To me baby names are neutral. Yes one might imply a certain religion, nationality, or gender, but I dont believe that names can be claimed by a specific to group as "off limits" to others.

You dont see Christians getting all up in arms over the Hispanic name Jesus (Hey-seus). That name is very important to religious people, however, we cant claim it as a name that only we can use.

Here's the thing: You don't get to decide what people can or can not be offended by.

You and I may not be offended by the name. You may not even agree that it has a legitimate reason for being offensive. But for a certain group of people, it is.

So, my questions is, knowing that it is, in fact, offensive to some Jews, why would you still consider the name? There are millions of names out there that don't offend a whole group of people. Choose one of those.

Ward0317

No I am not ok with anyone being offended. I dont want to offend anyone ever. I think that you made a good point about looking into the name and its meaning. But what if you do look into the name and the meaning and so you are no longer ignorant, and you still choose the name? Or do you feel that no matter what naming you child Cohen is not ok? ( you cant hear my voice but it not not a rude, or unhappy voice) Im just asking!

Dominique1219

Pearl16:

Kelli7025:

BlueRidge8:

Kelli7025:

Dominique1219:

TUGOsQueen:

Cohen.

Carter is ridiculously overused and I'm over hearing Carter, Cooper, Carson, etc.

Religion definitely did not come to mind when I heard Cohen.

 

But that's the problem--people are ignorant to the fact that this is an important/sacred surname to Jews; and then those ignorant people name their kids that...and the kid has to deal with it forever, not the ignorant parent.  Names need to be researched well before being used.

So because I am Roman Catholic and went to a Catholic grade school where I was taught Catholicism I am ignorant ?

Not everyone spends their free time memorizing religious last names.

That was a very rude comment to make about a large majority of people who are not Jewish and would not know the history behind that name.

But a quick Google search of any name you are thinking of is not a lot to ask. 

I do agree that some research should be done, but lets play this controversy this way.

I am Roman Catholic and the Pope is our highest leader in the church. One of the most loved Popes to the Roman Catholic community is the late Pope John Paul II. John and Paul are both very common and classic male names. But what if someone on this board wanted to use the name John, and I completely went off the deep end saying that it was a Cathlolic name and it was ignorant for any random person to use that name. I would recieve comments left and right about how people other then Catholics can use the name John.

To me baby names are neutral. Yes one might imply a certain religion, nationality, or gender, but I dont believe that names can be claimed by a specific to group as "off limits" to others.

You dont see Christians getting all up in arms over the Hispanic name Jesus (Hey-seus). That name is very important to religious people, however, we cant claim it as a name that only we can use.

Here's the thing: You don't get to decide what people can or can not be offended by.

You and I may not be offended by the name. You may not even agree that it has a legitimate reason for being offensive. But for a certain group of people, it is.

So, my questions is, knowing that it is, in fact, offensive to some Jews, why would you still consider the name? There are millions of names out there that don't offend a whole group of people. Choose one of those.

This is awesome.

Dominique1219

Ward0317:

No I am not ok with anyone being offended. I dont want to offend anyone ever. I think that you made a good point about looking into the name and its meaning. But what if you do look into the name and the meaning and so you are no longer ignorant, and you still choose the name? Or do you feel that no matter what naming you child Cohen is not ok? ( you cant hear my voice but it not not a rude, or unhappy voice) Im just asking!

 

If you look into the name, find it's meaning and that it may be offensive to others, and still choose to use it--then I think that kind of makes you a crappy person.  Why would you want to #1. Offend people, and #2 have your kid have to wear the name that offends people?  It's your child you are doing a disservice to, in my opinion.

Kelli7025

I did not specify clear enough, sorry. That is not what I meant. I meant Jesus is a Hispanic name, as well as name in the Bible, that belonged to a very important person in many religions. But if a non-Christian or non-practicing Hispanic person used the name Jesus, I cant claim it as rude and controversial. I cant claim that name as off limits to anyone that isnt a practicing Christian. Its not my name to claim.

My whole point was (and I am obviously not Jewish) that Cohen is just a name. It might be an important name to one religion but that doesnt mean other religions cant use it.

To me, this whole controversy is a little "out there" (for a lack of better words). It would be a different story if a non religious person wanted to throw their child a Bat Mitzvah. That belongs to the Jewish religion only, a name is a name and anyone can use a name.

I dont think someone should sacrafice using a name they love because it offends someone. There is always going to be someone who doesnt like the name you choose. Why pick a name you dont like just to make other people happy ?

Pearl16

Dominique1219:

Ward0317:

No I am not ok with anyone being offended. I dont want to offend anyone ever. I think that you made a good point about looking into the name and its meaning. But what if you do look into the name and the meaning and so you are no longer ignorant, and you still choose the name? Or do you feel that no matter what naming you child Cohen is not ok? ( you cant hear my voice but it not not a rude, or unhappy voice) Im just asking!

 

If you look into the name, find it's meaning and that it may be offensive to others, and still choose to use it--then I think that kind of makes you a crappy person.  Why would you want to #1. Offend people, and #2 have your kid have to wear the name that offends people?  It's your child you are doing a disservice to, in my opinion.

 Agreed. Unknowingly choosing a name that is offensive makes you ignorant, but knowing it's offensive and choosing it anyway makes you cruel and insensitive.

Dominique1219

Kelli7025:

I did not specify clear enough, sorry. That is not what I meant. I meant Jesus is a Hispanic name, as well as name in the Bible, that belonged to a very important person in many religions. But if a non-Christian or non-practicing Hispanic person used the name Jesus, I cant claim it as rude and controversial. I cant claim that name as off limits to anyone that isnt a practicing Christian. Its not my name to claim.

My whole point was (and I am obviously not Jewish) that Cohen is just a name. It might be an important name to one religion but that doesnt mean other religions cant use it.

To me, this whole controversy is a little "out there" (for a lack of better words). It would be a different story if a non religious person wanted to throw their child a Bat Mitzvah. That belongs to the Jewish religion only, a name is a name and anyone can use a name.

I dont think someone should sacrafice using a name they love because it offends someone. There is always going to be someone who doesnt like the name you choose. Why pick a name you dont like just to make other people happy ?

 

But you don't make all of the decisions for an entire group of people.  Just because you wouldn't find the name Jesus offensive, doesn't mean other Christians wouldn't.  Just because some Jewish people don't find Cohen offensive, doesn't mean others don't.  It's also about more than just "not liking" a name, and to some people it is not "just a name."   I feel like you are trivializing it.  Did you even read the article that explains why it's offensive?

Pearl16

Kelli7025:

I did not specify clear enough, sorry. That is not what I meant. I meant Jesus is a Hispanic name, as well as name in the Bible, that belonged to a very important person in many religions. But if a non-Christian or non-practicing Hispanic person used the name Jesus, I cant claim it as rude and controversial. I cant claim that name as off limits to anyone that isnt a practicing Christian. Its not my name to claim.

My whole point was (and I am obviously not Jewish) that Cohen is just a name. It might be an important name to one religion but that doesnt mean other religions cant use it.

To me, this whole controversy is a little "out there" (for a lack of better words). It would be a different story if a non religious person wanted to throw their child a Bat Mitzvah. That belongs to the Jewish religion only, a name is a name and anyone can use a name.

I dont think someone should sacrafice using a name they love because it offends someone. There is always going to be someone who doesnt like the name you choose. Why pick a name you dont like just to make other people happy ?

I stand by my last post. Your last paragraph makes you sound cruel and insensitive.

There's a difference between someone not liking your name and someone being offended by it. I would never knowingly choose a name I knew to be offensive to some people.

And why would she have to choose a name she doesn't like "just to make other people happy"? That's a bit dramatic. It's a bit of stretch to think that Cohen is such a fantastic name that no other name in the history of the world will ever compare to it. She posted two names, so obviously there's at least one other name out there she'd be happy with.

Ward0317

Joy2611:

Kelli7025:

I did not specify clear enough, sorry. That is not what I meant. I meant Jesus is a Hispanic name, as well as name in the Bible, that belonged to a very important person in many religions. But if a non-Christian or non-practicing Hispanic person used the name Jesus, I cant claim it as rude and controversial. I cant claim that name as off limits to anyone that isnt a practicing Christian. Its not my name to claim.

My whole point was (and I am obviously not Jewish) that Cohen is just a name. It might be an important name to one religion but that doesnt mean other religions cant use it.

To me, this whole controversy is a little "out there" (for a lack of better words). It would be a different story if a non religious person wanted to throw their child a Bat Mitzvah. That belongs to the Jewish religion only, a name is a name and anyone can use a name.

I dont think someone should sacrafice using a name they love because it offends someone. There is always going to be someone who doesnt like the name you choose. Why pick a name you dont like just to make other people happy ?

 

But why would you pick a name that is known to be offensive to a whole group of people?  You are being willfully close minded about this whole situation.  If you research the name and still don't see the big deal, then by all means, use the name.  But you're acting like no one should be offended.  That ship has sailed; people are offended - now what?

Also, your first argument of "Well, I'm Roman Catholic and I know nothing about the Jewish faith.  Does that make me ignorant?"  Why yes.  It does.  Look beyond your own faith and your own education.  There's a whole world out there and just because you put your blinders on to it doesn't mean the rest of us do. 

Well I agree with this! If I do my research and still dont find it a big deal then thats it. People can be offended they have the right but I will choose whatever name I want. I appriciate you opinions I have read the article and read your arguments and in the end I will choose whatever name I like. I dont think it makes me a crappy person but if you do then so be it. Im sorry to anyone who is offended by me concidering this name.

 On a happier note I hope you all have a wonderful Holiday!

MsNessa

Ward0317:

I though that if you gave me your opinion and why you like the name over the other name, then it would be easier to make a decision.

Controversy aside, I just don't like Cohen as a first name.

Carter is okay, a little preppy for my taste, but I like it better than Cohen.

Kelli7025

FWIW, I just asked a Jewish friend of mine her opinion on the controversy and her text said "who cares. we talked about it at a group at temple and no one there cared if someone used the name Cohen. The Jewish people that are getting angry over this are the people that believe everyone on Earth should be Jewish and that Jewish people should rule the world. Thats like 2% of the Jewish community. "

Glad to know my opinion made me a crappy person, Happy Wednesday to me !

Dominique1219

Kelli7025:

FWIW, I just asked a Jewish friend of mine her opinion on the controversy and her text said "who cares. we talked about it at a group at temple and no one there cared if someone used the name Cohen. The Jewish people that are getting angry over this are the people that believe everyone on Earth should be Jewish and that Jewish people should rule the world. Thats like 2% of the Jewish community. "

Glad to know my opinion made me a crappy person, Happy Wednesday to me !

 

Reading comprehension fail.  I believe what was said is, if you know a name offends people, and still decide to use it because you don't care, that makes you a crappy person.

FWIW, your friend and the other people at her temple don't represent the entire Jewish population.  And you said it best, 2% of the Jewish population finds it offensive.  PEOPLE FIND IT OFFENSIVE.  Get it in your head.

Kelli7025

Dominique1219:

Kelli7025:

FWIW, I just asked a Jewish friend of mine her opinion on the controversy and her text said "who cares. we talked about it at a group at temple and no one there cared if someone used the name Cohen. The Jewish people that are getting angry over this are the people that believe everyone on Earth should be Jewish and that Jewish people should rule the world. Thats like 2% of the Jewish community. "

Glad to know my opinion made me a crappy person, Happy Wednesday to me !

 

Reading comprehension fail.  I believe what was said is, if you know a name offends people, and still decide to use it because you don't care, that makes you a crappy person.

FWIW, your friend and the other people at her temple don't represent the entire Jewish population.  And you said it best, 2% of the Jewish population finds it offensive.  PEOPLE FIND IT OFFENSIVE.  Get it in your head.

Your rude and not worthy of my time or energy. Have a good day.

Pearl16

Kelli7025:

FWIW, I just asked a Jewish friend of mine her opinion on the controversy and her text said "who cares. we talked about it at a group at temple and no one there cared if someone used the name Cohen. The Jewish people that are getting angry over this are the people that believe everyone on Earth should be Jewish and that Jewish people should rule the world. Thats like 2% of the Jewish community. "

Glad to know my opinion made me a crappy person, Happy Wednesday to me !

Well, goody! Now that we know that one Jewish person says they're not offended, it's totally okay to use! Who cares about that 2%? Their beliefs are different than mine, so their feelings and opinions are essentially invalid!

 ::sigh::

FFS, open up your mind and realize that there are people out there who you may not agree with, but who still deserve your respect and consideration.

Dominique1219

Kelli7025:

Dominique1219:

Kelli7025:

FWIW, I just asked a Jewish friend of mine her opinion on the controversy and her text said "who cares. we talked about it at a group at temple and no one there cared if someone used the name Cohen. The Jewish people that are getting angry over this are the people that believe everyone on Earth should be Jewish and that Jewish people should rule the world. Thats like 2% of the Jewish community. "

Glad to know my opinion made me a crappy person, Happy Wednesday to me !

 

Reading comprehension fail.  I believe what was said is, if you know a name offends people, and still decide to use it because you don't care, that makes you a crappy person.

FWIW, your friend and the other people at her temple don't represent the entire Jewish population.  And you said it best, 2% of the Jewish population finds it offensive.  PEOPLE FIND IT OFFENSIVE.  Get it in your head.

Your rude and not worthy of my time or energy. Have a good day.

Obviously it was worth your time and energy, as you continued a fruitless argument that spanned over a few hours.  What I really think happened is, you ran out of logic to fuel your argument.  Have a good day.