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2nd Opinion Appt (long)

DH and I had a 2nd opinion appt with another clinic on Tuesday.  All the RE could come up with was that he thinks I have triggered a couple days too late for both cycles.  Other than that he gave me nothing - even said that the clinic I go to is very reputable.  He was very nice, thorough, and caring.  I was just hoping for a smoking gun, ya know???

So now we are left to figure out if we should change or stay with our current RE and clinic.  The considerations: (1) current clinic has 27% blast transfer rate for someone my age and the 2nd opinion clinic has an 80% blast transfer rate, (2) current clinic uses vitrification for frosties and 2nd opinion clinic uses the slow-freeze method, (3) current clinic has offered us $1000 off on IVF3 (small amount I know, but it is something and I am in the process of crafting an email to see if I get increase the amount).

To be honest, we are leaning towards staying with the current clinic.  Even though there is a stark difference between the blast transfer rates the pregnancy rates are pretty much the same - actually a little higher for our current clinic.  When I scheduled the 2nd opinion appt I was pretty upset with how the m/c was being dealt with, but now that time has passed and the whole event isn't so raw I have calmed down.  I think I am slowly realizing that sh*t really does just happen. =S

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Re: 2nd Opinion Appt (long)

  • Mayan, I am glad your 2nd opinion went fairly well.  I completely understand how you are feeling with whether or not to stay with your original clinic or make a change, I'm making that decision right now for IVF#1.  It's easy to blame the clinic and want to jump ship, but you're right about time making things a little easier to digest.  I hope that you are able to come to a decision you are happy with and that this next cycle is finally it for you!  Good Luck!

     
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    IVF #2: July 2013, ET 1 embryo 7/18, beta 1 @ 14dp3dt - 757, beta 2 @ 16dp3dt - 1762
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  • I'm glad your second opinion went well hun ((Hugs)). I'm sorry they couldn't tell you defenitely something concrete. I'm praying that you and DH come to a decision on what and when is best for the two of you to cycle again. I know you'll make the right choice, and I'm excited to be there rooting you on!
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  • Glad your second opinon went well.  I think if the success rates are around the same, you need to go with the RE you are most comfortable with. 

     Good luck!!  I'm rooting for you!!!

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    2/06 - surprise pregnancy - twins
    3/06 - m/c 1st baby at 6 weeks 
    5/06 -2nd baby had no heartbeat at 14 wks.
    D&E - Bled out. Blood transfusions. Week in ICU - Cheated Death!
    Diagnosis: Blood clotting and bleeding disorder, immune issues, & cervical stenosis
    5/10 - 1st IVF cycle - BFN
    FET - 10/12/10 - BFN
    1/11 - IVF with PGD - BFN
    IVF - May - BFN
    6/11 New RE - fingers crossed!
    9/11 - IVF - 4 transferred
    10/13 - BFP!!
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  • Glad your second opionion went well but I also understand the disappointment of not getting a better answer.  I agree with naybird when she says if success rates are the same than go with who you are most comfortable with.  The one piece of advice if you don't mind.. after 3 failed IVFs with my old RE, what frustrated me in the end was that the protocol never seemed to change - not at all. He said he would be more aggressive or do something different.. but in the end we always ended up doing the same thing.  I think it was important for me to feel and know that we were trying something different and I think I found that with me new RE.  I hope you and DH can come to a decision that you are both happy with.  Good luck hun.

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    IVF #2.1 Jan 2011 - Converted to IUI - BFN;
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    IVF #3 May 2011 - ER 5/19/11: 20 retrieved, 10 mature, 9 fert-ET 5dt 5/24/11 3 embies - BFN;
    Switched RE's for IVF #4 (CCRM) Oct 2011 - Surprise BFP before starting IVF #4!
  • I am sorry for they did have some awesome answer about what might have gone wrong.  I understand hoping for that.

    I hope IVF #3 does the trick no matter which RE you use and will be rooting for you!

    I do like that your current clinic uses vitrification - I don't know why all RE haven't switched to this method.

    Hang in there hon!

    TTC since 07/2009
    Me: PCOS, Blood/Immune Issues DH: Low all 3
    Jun.- Sep. 2010 IUI#1-#3 = BFN
    Oct. 2010 = IVF #1 = B/G Twins (passed away Feb. 2011)
    May 2011 = Myomectomy and trans-abdominal cerclage (TAC)
    Sep. 2011 = Surprise BFP = C/P
    Feb. 2012 = sFET #1 = BFN
    Feb.2012 = Hail Mary IUI #4 = BFN
    April/May 2012 = FET #2 w/our last two embies = BFP (Please let this be it!)
    Beta #1 8dp5/6dt = 234 Beta #2 10dp5/6dt = 695 Beta #3 12dp5/6dt = 1796 Beta #4 17dp5/6dt = 17,888 U/S #1 May 17, 2012 = Twins
    Baby B's heart stop beating at 9 weeks 5 days
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  • I am sorry you didn't get any specific answers at your 2nd opinion but it does seem like you got some good info to go on so that you can make an educated decision.  I wish you much luck in whatever you decide to do!  Fingers crossed that this next cycle is the one for you!
    TTC since 3/07. IVF#1 = canceled. IVF#2 = 0% fertilization. IVF#3 = BFN. IVF#4 = c/p.  
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  • *** really does just happen. It sucks but it's true. I have always fallen on the bad side of the odds.

    wishing you lots of luck on making your decision!

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  • Thanks ladies.  We have decided that we are gong to stay with our original RE and hope to cycle in Nov/Dec, providing the timing works out with the lab closure over xmas.  If not, then we will cycle in early 2012.
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  • Seeking a 2nd opinion is always a good thing to do but can be so difficult because you want so badly for the new clinic to do things differently & to try a different protocol - something different than what's been done before but unfortunately it sometimes doesn't give you any more hope than you had before :(

    I say go with what you know, go with your gut & go with what feels right in your heart! 

    Wishing you luck with your decision & crossing my fingers that this next step in your journey will finally be IT for you!!

     

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    Mar - IVF #2 - 2 embies transferred & 4 frosties = BFN
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    Sept - FET #2 * 2 embies transferred = BFP
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