So, we have pretty much decided on a first name if our baby is a boy- Liam, which is good, because we haven't really been on the same page about ANY other name....but the middle name? No. I'm hoping that by getting some input here (I'm fully expecting the name to get shredded on this board), I can be armed with some valid arguments so my husband will quit suggesting it!
Anyways, he is fully in love with the name Liam Seamus (which is pronounced Shay-mus, but, you know, sort of looks like Semen, and I'm sure most people would mispronounce as Sea-mus. But that's just me). I would be happier with something a little more innocuous, like James (his grandfather's name), Paul (my dad's name), or even Colin (my husband's name).
I guess I should also mention that he is Scottish/Irish, with his mother directly off the boat from Scotland. So maybe it makes a little more sense? I don't know, I still hate it.
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I personally think Seamus is awesome for a MN:). Plus, Seamus is the Irish version of James, so you kind of both win.
Perhaps you two could find another Scottish/Irish name that would work?
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I'm not going to be any help to you but I happen to LOVE Liam Seamus. I don't know if it's a geographical thing but I know plenty of guys named Seamus and I've never heard it pronounced incorrectly.
However, I do love using family names as middle name so Liam Colin would also be fantastic (I think James and Paul are too short with Liam). Good luck in your decision!
That's his argument!! haha. I'm glad I asked this question though, the lack of immediate thrashing I was expecting makes me feel a little better....it may end up growing on me
Liam Seamus sounds great to me. I feel like Seamus is one of those names that most people do know how to pronounce despite its tricky spelling, and since it'll be his middle name, I don't think he'll encounter trouble.
I'm going to have to support your husband--Seamus goes perfectly with Liam, it references your child's heritage, and, honestly, I really like the name.
I think, actually, you'll find that a lot of people on this board will like Seamus. Good luck coming to an agreement, in any case.
I wouldn't mispronounce Seamus.
If it's a middle name, who is going to be seeing it written down? If people know his middle name, it will probably be because you tell them what it is, so why would they mispronounce it? I don't think you have an argument there.
On the other hand, I wouldn't name my son anything I hated as much as you seem to hate it - so find the compromise. James, Paul and Colin are all great names. What is your family's heritage? Are you also Scottish? If not, I don't think it's fair for your son's name to only reflect his father's family.
Scottish no, but my family is mostly Irish, so that's how this thing sort of came to be initially...And that's a good point about no one really seeing his MN anyways. I was always thinking about roll call in school, but I'm probably just overthinking....
I don't think the middle name shows up on a class roster, maybe a middle initial if there are two children with the same first and last names. I never had a teacher call me Gianna Christine Giorgi on the first day of school...
I've always loved Seamus. I think enough people are familiar with it so that there won't be much of a pronunciation issue?it's the mn spot anyway. The link to his background is a big plus, too.
Liam Seamus is kinda badass and I love it. That said, I firmly believe both parents have veto power when it comes to naming their kids.
I actually forgot what my middle name was for a few years as a child--it had been so long since I'd heard it, I got it mixed up with a similar name. No teacher ever called me by my middle name.
That was a good twenty years ago, though, so things may be different now.
My husband may end up coming here to thank you ladies for all this positive reinforcement, haha. I am going to have to think on this a bit more....
Or, we may end up having a girl, so all of this will be moot anyways
As far as the pronunciation - sure, some people will mispronounce it the first time, but once you say it for them, they'll know how to say it.
We named DS Declan and I get this all the time. Heck, even *I* mispronounced it the first time I saw it. I don't see it as a big deal.
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I like the name Seamus. Does it have a family connection or does he just like it?
Your other middle name options are nice too.
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I think Seamus is fine too, I knew a boy in elementary school / jr high who was a Seamus, I don't remember any jokes...
What about Hamish? (Hay-mish). This is my Scottish BIL's name. It has the same sound w/o the semen conotation. It also means James, btw.
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How do you pronouce that??
Seamus is a legit name. I don't think that many people would have a problem knowing how to say it. And I really like the name.
Having said all that, I don't like it when paired with Liam. I love the name Liam, and Seamus, just not together. I think its cute that he wants to combine his Irish and Scottish heritage. But I would suggest finding a different Scottish name.
This was my exact thought
LOVE Liam Seamus!! Especially since (as pp's said) it's a form of James, which is a name you were interested in anyways!
I'm a teacher and mn's are never on my class rosters. The only time I see them is on the emergency contact cards. I've never called out the mn of any of my students.
I'm pretty sure most people know how to pronounce seamus. plus mn's are kind of free-for-all.personally i like seamus better than liam.
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This. I love the name Liam Seamus! However, if you hate it, then you guys need to find a name that you both like.
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Seamus is one of my favourite boy names
I like Seamus a lot, and strongly prefer it to the blander contenders you mentioned.
I know how to pronounce it. And it doesn't remind me of semen (trust me, I find innuendos everywhere possible).