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XP: WTF appt was today

I had my WTF from IVF#1 today. I got the DE speech which I expected to get but it still hurts. We are still going to try again with my OE with MDLF (we did EPP last time). I know I should try to stay optimistic but I really don't have much hope it will get us any more eggs or better quality eggs. When you are aiming for 4 eggs, it is pretty depressing. My embie quality was just atrocious last time so that is the main reason for my sadness and not the low number retrieved.  I am also very much afraid I won't even get to a retrieval this next/final time.  I am currently waiting for insurance approval and it is a fight to get it with my numbers/results of last IVF. They want a letter from the RE saying I have more than a 5% chance of success.  If they approve, we will start when AF shows up in about 2 weeks. 

Instead of seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, it is getting darker here each day and I am just sad beyond words. (DH does not want to do DE or adopt due to the cost.)

TTC #1 since 8/1/10; Me:41 and BRCA1+, DH:46
DOR (FSH 24.3)/ terrible egg quality ; homozygous MTHFR c677t
5 IUI's: 2/11 to 6/11 and 1/12= BFN
OE IVF#1-4 8/11-6/12= all BFN
DE IVF#1 11/12 bad embryos= BFN
DE IVF #2 2/13 BFP/Beta hell: m/c 5w6d
CFNBC 7 months, not doing well; decided on guarantee program at RBA w/frozen DE
DE IVF #3 1/14  ET 4BB; BFP;M/C 5w1d, incomplete m/c; MVA extraction in ER 7w1d

DE FET#1 ET 3/1714; BFP, beta 1 3/27= 197, beta 2 3/31= 1586, beta 3 4/7= 13879!!
First u/s= Twins with HBs at 6w2d! We are Team Pink x 2!!

K & K born 11/21/14 at 38wks 4 days

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Re: XP: WTF appt was today

  • Oh, McIrish, I'm so sorry.  I have been thinking a lot about you and wondered what your insurance had decided.  I hope that you get another shot at this, and I hope that your miracle baby comes along soon!  Sending you lots and lots of hugs!
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  • I am so sorry that it seems so dark right now.  Hugs Left Hug
    BFP on IVF #2 6/29/2012. Beta #1 7/3 = 522; Beta #2 = 1180; Beta #3 = 6491 image BabyFruit Ticker
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  • Oh McIrish I'm hoping the best for you and I'm sorry. This whole IF is depressing and I wish we could all come into some money!! Keep your head up and hope that you get your approval.

    ME:46 MH:44 DE IVF 2014
    Met with RE 4/11. 2 IUI's BFN. DE best option. Switched clinics to do "shared" program. Had to retake all tests and a mamm that put me behind and then on a DE waiting list for 12 months. Picked a donor!! (10/13/13) Got matched. Estimated transfer in December. After 2.5 years of patiently waiting I will finally cycle....can hardly believe it. DE cycle got cancelled. One of her tests came back positive.  Waiting for another donor. Donor picked!! (1/18/14)

    DE IVF #1 (4/26) BFN  DE FET #1 (6/4) BFP! Beta 1=339 Beta 2=852 Beta 3=9957 EDD 2/22/15!!


     

     

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  • I've been thinking about you.  I hope your insurance approval comes through.  You never know, maybe the alt. protocol will get better results (although I totally understand not wanting to get your hopes up too much).  Please keep us posted.


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  • I'm sorry. I hope you get the approval and have success with your next attempt. Right Hug
  • I'm sorry too. I've been feeling like I'm so deep in the tunnel too. Sorry this is not working!!!!
    TTC since 2009 very frustrated 42yr and DH 40

    5 cycles of Clomid with satisfactory response=BFN's
    Fibroid removal Nov2010
    IUI Clomid #1 Feb 2011...BFN..damn it!
    IUI Inject's #2 Apr 2011...CANCELLED...low estradiol
    IUI Inject's #3 June 2011...BFN
    IUI Inject's #4 Sept2011...BFFN
    Lap Dec 2011...severe endo..cyst removed..some remains...
    IVF#1 Apr 2012 ....cancelled due to over suppression
    IVF#2 July 2012....6 follies...only 1 retrieved....BFFN
    surgery suggested to move ovary to an better placement but....we moved two time zones away and are financially and emotionally empty

  • I am so very sorry you are having such a rough time  :(I hope and pray that you will get your insurance to cooperate.  I have a good feeling about your next attempt.  :)
    Me: 40 Dh: 41, TTC since August 2009, began Acupuncture and Herbs Sept 2011, began Temping and Charting Nov 2011. image
  • I have been thinking of you. I am glad you updated. I hope your insurance lets you try again. Hugs, as always.
    b/w=FSH 15.6, AMH 0.4 surprise natural BFP on 3/12/11
    DS born via unplanned C-section at 40w6d

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  • I'm sorry.  Still keeping my fingers crossed for you.
  • Hang in there, go outside for a walk, perk yourself up and try to stay positive. It only takes one!!!
  • My fingers are crossed that you get quickly approved by insurance! Sorry, about the DE speech...


    IVF #1 ET 1 d3 embryo 10/30/11 BFP
    3 Embryos frozen (1 d5, 2 d6)

    DS born 07/29/12

    FET #1 ET 1 d5 embryo 02/10/15 BFN

    FET #2 1 d6 embryo didn't survive thaw, transferred last d6. CP :(

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  • I'm sorry McIrish!  This process is so hard.  I'm sending you (((Big HUGS))) 
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  • McIrish.....I'm sorry that you had to go through a negative WTF meeting.  Been there done that and I hate every meeting that I have to go to with a RE because I assume it's going to be all bad news again.  You have to remember that you had a handful of eggs-but that DOES NOT mean they are representive of all the eggs that you have left.  I try to think that I have probably 1500-2000 eggs left, of those-if 150-200 are of good quality, then that's good enough for me.  It only takes one.  I hope that you have better luck with MDLP (micro-dose flare?)  The micro-dose flare has been the only protocol that got me to retrieval.........and I hope that it can do the same for you.  Good luck with the insurance-that's a sucky hassle.  Sending thoughts and lots of hugs your way. 

    I should also be cycling-probably a little after you though.  My day 21 labs are on 9-23, then I have to wait for FP to start stims.

    TTC since 10/09 Me-43 DH-44 RE and testing 10/10-11/10, Recommending IVF 1/11 New RE AMA and DOR-DH low motility IVF #1.1 cancelled 3/11 due to poor response IVF #1.2 May 2011, one perfect 8-cell embryo, 3dt-BFN, IVF #2.1 Converted to IUI d/t poor response. New RE 9/2011. IVF 2.2 completed using HGH,EPP,DHEA, Q-10 and accupuncture. Transferred one 8-cell, grade one embryo on 10/19. BFP 10/31/11 Chemical pregancy on 11/2/11. Started stims for IVF #3, our final try, on 12-2-11. ET on 12/18. Transferred 3 Grade A embryos-BFFN Planning DE IVF, late March/early April- Donors ER expected to be 4/2-4/4. PAIF/SAIF welcome
  • Did you ask your RE about supplements or HGH?  Would be interested to hear what other REs have to say about these things.  Just so you know, our RE isn't going to use HGH for the entire cycle-and it should cost between $500-600 OOP.
    TTC since 10/09 Me-43 DH-44 RE and testing 10/10-11/10, Recommending IVF 1/11 New RE AMA and DOR-DH low motility IVF #1.1 cancelled 3/11 due to poor response IVF #1.2 May 2011, one perfect 8-cell embryo, 3dt-BFN, IVF #2.1 Converted to IUI d/t poor response. New RE 9/2011. IVF 2.2 completed using HGH,EPP,DHEA, Q-10 and accupuncture. Transferred one 8-cell, grade one embryo on 10/19. BFP 10/31/11 Chemical pregancy on 11/2/11. Started stims for IVF #3, our final try, on 12-2-11. ET on 12/18. Transferred 3 Grade A embryos-BFFN Planning DE IVF, late March/early April- Donors ER expected to be 4/2-4/4. PAIF/SAIF welcome
  • Ugh, McIrish, I'm so sorry.  Here's hoping it gets approved and you can go for it.  We can talk more about *maybe* trying to get your DH to see the positives in DE or adoption if it really comes to that, but really, it may not!

    me - 41 (dx: DOR); DH - 53 (no problems); 7/18/09 - married!; 8/4/09 - BFP on first (real)try; 9/14/09 - missed m/c; 9/15/09 - d&c; 11/09 - 3/10 - 4 natural cycles = BFN; 4/10 - dx hyperthyroidism caused by Graves' disease; 6/10 - thyroidectomy; 7/10 - 12/10 - 1 natural and 5 medicated IUI cycles = BFN; 1/11 - new RE; dx low ovarian reserve (AMH .42; 1/26/11 -- BFP (ectopic) from IUI #6; methotrexate 2/10/11; 6/2/11 - IVF #1 = BFN; 9/12/11 - prescreening for DE; 9/15/11 - IUI #7 (unmedicated)= BFN; 11/8 - begin DE cycle (shared risk program); 12/5 - ER (5 eggs/4 mature/3 fertilized/2 left by day 5) 12/10 - ET of one 1BB blast (expanded, "fair" quality), none to freeze; 12/22 - totally shocked by +hpt; beta #1 = 413; #2 = 3952 2/14 - CVS reveals a healthy baby girl! EDD: 8/27/12 DD born 8/31/12, 10 lbs 10 oz and perfect in every way. 
  • I am so sorry.  Hang in there, and fight with your insurance company.  You deserve another try.
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  • I am so sorry for you. IF sucks and it's hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel when all we seem to get is bad news and BFN. I do hope this second IVF is what it takes and you get your miracle baby. Hang in there. 
    TTC #1 since 2/10 Me 38 FSH 12.9 & AMH 0.16 DH 47, low sperm count due to meds. 07/11 We have sperm! 28 million, 70% motility, morphology 1% normal. 08/14/11 1st IUI unmedicated BFN. 09/11/11 2nd IUI w/ Femara + trigger BFN 10/14/11 trigger & Final IUI 10/16/11 BFN 10/21/11 Started acupuncture and loving it! 01/21 ET one embryo 6 cell grade C. Beta 02/02. BFN. Taking a much needed break. image
  • So very sorry.  I pray with all my heart that everything works out with insurance and you get another chance.  I firmly believe you have some great eggs in there, I can just feel it.  Very best of luck to you!
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  • I hope things go smoothly with the insurance approval. I'm so sorry about the appointment. I know it is hard to be optimistic, but we will all be optimistic for you. Hopefully that will help. ((hugs))
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    IUI#1-4 Jan.-Apr. 2011 = BFNs
    IVF#1 Aug. 2011 = c/p, FET #1 Nov. 2011 = c/p, FET #2 April 2012 = BFP!
    Beta #1 = 153, Beta #2 = 269, Beta #3 = 675
    1st U/S = TWINS!! EDD 12/29/12
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  • Oh McIrish Im sorry. :?(
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  • I am so sorry.  My heart goes out to you. Lots of hugs to you and prayers.
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  • I am sorry to hear that this process is bringing you to such a dark place. I've felt that before during this whole thing, and it is just horrible, and lonely. I am glad you are probably going to get another chance and will hold out hope that you will get lucky and one of those eggs will be an amazing one. That's really all you need - just one. I am rooting for ya.
    ttc since 2/2010 ~
    me (36): Hypothyroid (on Levothroid), low vit. d, borderline/high fsh (day 3: between 7-10) (day 10: 13 during CCCT), AFC: 14
    dh (31): awesome (minus one sample with agglutination)
    Diagnosis:possible DOR and/or unexplained + elevated NK cells + MTHFR (C677T - one copy)

    MAY 2011 - FEB 2012 - 3 injectable IUI's with numerous cancellations due to high TSH levels
    MAY 2012 - onto IVF/ICSI (Antagonist Protocol) on BCP and Folgard (3 week delay - cyst - boooo) 5/21 start stims 5/30 ER 11R 8M 3F 6/2 3DT of 3 6/12 Beta #1 83 | 6/14 Beta #2 196 | 6/21 Beta #3 3818 | 6/28 Beta #4 22,213 | 7/2 1st U/S - 2 on board! 8/24 CVS reveals that we have a boy AND a girl on board!

    Healthy baby boy and girl born in February, 2013 at 38 weeks and 2 days!


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  • I'm sorry you are going through this.  So, a big FU to IF and a big FU to insurance!  We just spent 6 months going through hoops for a jaw surgery for DH that was finally approved so I feel ya on that one.  There I times when I think it makes things easier that we know we have zero coverage for IF because of the games you have to play to get the coverage even when you are supposed to have it, (well, not really because of how expensive everything is, but it is so frustrating). 

    I'll be thinking of you and hope that this protocol does the trick for you.  I always feel a little better when the Dr. has a reccommendation that we change something up.  It gives me a sliver of hope that we could have a different outcome.  My hope is that this will be the case for you.  Take Care!

    Me: 37 DH: 43 Married 9/2004 TTC since 9/2005 CP Dec 2006 MC June 2008 at 6 weeks MC April 2010 at 9 weeks 50 clomid+IUI 11/2010=BFN 50 clomid+IUI 12/2010=BFP MC Feb 2011 at 7 weeks 8/11 CD3 AFC=24,FSH=6.91,AMH=5.6,E2=47.9, TSH=1.27,8/26 12DPO BFP Alistair Charles "Charlie" was born 5/7 weighing 8lbs, 10oz and 22" was long imageimageimageimage
  • Oh honey, I am so sorry to hear this news for you. I know it sucks and I just hate it for you.

    I know your DH is not interested in DE or adoption due to cost, but have you talked about donor embryos? There are services that match you with couples that have embryos already fertilized that they are not going to implant. The costs are much much cheaper because technically you can't "buy" embryos.

    There is also adoption through your local county which is free, unlike an adoption through a private agency.

    Hang in there, you will get to be a mother. I believe in my heart.

    Many hugs to you!

    Single Mother by Choice. Life didn't work out the way I planned so I did it on my own. IUI #s 1-3, unmedicated = BFN, IUI #s 4-6, 50mg Clomid, Ovidrel = BFN IVF #1: 23R, 20M, 17F. 5 day transfer 2 blasts. 2 Snowbabies BFP 6dp5dt, Beta #1 7dp5dt = 58, Beta #2 9dp5dt = 114, Beta #3 10dp5dt = 187 1st Ultrasound = 5/3, not much to see yet. 2nd Ultrasound = 5/17, TWINS!!! Hospital Bed Rest at 32 weeks due to pre-ecclampsia and severe edema. Audrey Grace, 5lbs9oz, & Lydia Louise, 6lbs, born via emergency c-section on 12/6/12 at 36w1d My IVF Journey
  • I'm so sorry.  I dont have any words of comfort but I just want you to know that I think of you often and I am sending you all my good thoughts.  Let's hope for some good news sometime soon. <3
    ~Married 11/08~
    ~TTC since 01/09~
    ~SA & B/W - 06/09 - Normal~
    ~Encouraged by OB to "just keep trying" 06/09 - 06/10 (oh, the wasted time)~
    ~HSG - 08/10 - Clear/Normal~
    ~Lapo - 01/11 - Normal~
    ~Clomid 50mg, Trigger shot, Prometrium - 01/11, 02/11, 03/11~
    ~BFN - 02/11~
    ~IUI #1 03/15/11~
    BFP 3/28/2011
    Diagnosed with GD at 28 weeks. Controlled through diet and exercise. No insulin.
    Diagnosed with Cholestasis of pregnancy @ 36 weeks.
    Delivered via C-section @ 36 weeks on 11/9/11.

    TTC#2 for a few months naturally (ha!)
    ~IUI#1, Clomid, Trigger,  10/13 - BFN
    ~IUI#2, Femera, Ovidrel, 11/13




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