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February 2011 Moms
TiffanyTheMom
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To the 2/11 mommas...
TiffanyTheMom
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I need to apologize to you girls. If you girls look at all my posts here in the last year, I've never been mean. I'm not a mean person. I lashed out at a certain person because... well, I guess a year of seeing her belittle, demean, degrade, scorn, publicly humiliate, and be flat out rude to many, many bumpies finally set me over the edge. When she posted on that week 7 and that girl wrote a serious question, she just went in there not to answer her- but to make fun of her because she misspelled a few words- I just started to lose it. I felt like all those women she's been so nasty to over the last year I've been here needed to be defended. That's not my job, I know, and it's like a ladybug standing up to a hurricane- but I still felt angry. I let myself get to her standard and said something uncalled for. I'm still amazed that it was okay for her to bash my husband, who by the way can't defend himself. He's not on TB, he can't defend himself as much as her baby can't defend himself. And it appears they've had a terrible nickname for him for a while, because after I commented on the Wk. 7 thread, they had already pulled out that nickname. It didn't start with my UO post- that's just where it all came out.
Anyone who's seen my posts for the last year should know that I have a (sometimes odd) sense of humor. And I don't know how what's-her-face can say I've been like this all along, because I haven't been. And you ladies know me better than the other boards, and I hope you'll remember that.
Most of the Feb. mommas are the coolest people I've ever had the chance to 'meet', and I hope you girls can forgive me for sinking to the level of the ones I'm angry at. That's not a place I'm proud to have gone. I shouldn't have let people on an internet site shake me up so much that I acted out like that.
Please remember all the past posts where I've been supportive, and cared for other's lives and happenings, and been a good person. If I have past posts (on this board, not reacting to a certain person) where I've been this mean and purposefully hurtful, I have not realized that I came across that way. I'm very, very sure that I am not known (at least, before this incident) for being an evil snatch.
And please remember, there's a post set up by the cool kids on 6-9 where they're having a hay day making fun of and belittling my H. I may have made one or two comments (that were purposefully meant to sting, which was wrong on my part but I've dropped it) about her baby but they've dedicated a whole thread to being nasty to a man they've never met, know nothing about, and not doing it to sting me. They're doing that because, well... that's how those people always are. Nothing they've said has bothered me, because they don't know him. They picture they have? It was hilarious. It was right after we'd come back from a cruise, and he was modeling a pose he used to win a funny contest on the ship. That picture will always make me smile, and it does nothing but bring up wonderful memories for me despite what they've said.
I just want to apologize to you ladies that I got so angry that I said things like that. It's not mature IRL, and it's not mature on the internet either.
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Re: To the 2/11 mommas...
I still lurve me some Tiffany. I couldn't understand it when they were announcing you were showing your true colors. Everyone has a bad day or makes a mistake and says something they don't mean and/or regret. One slip-up does not change who a person is. You have always been supportive; when I first started posting in Feb 11 I thought you were a mod or something because you were so involved. (Ha, I was new)
I'm glad you have apologized, and I hope that your apology is accepted with grace.
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I think the only person I ever saw you be mean to was Wilma. But since she was sort of stalking you, I think that's okay.
I'm not asking for glitterrrrr and rainbowz, I'm apologizing for being just like the ladies on TB who make me angry with their unnecessary name calling and belittling. I'm not trying to make anything disappear- if I was I would have DD'ed already. I'm just asking the Feb. mommas, who I've always loved, to please remember me the way I usually am and recognize the my behaviour to a certain woman was far, far out of my norm. Please don't turn this into something it's not.
Yes, and then it morphed into a chance to make fun of my H. And the rest of the mob ran with it like coyotes on a carcass. I am being a grown up- I'm apologizing for something I recognized as wrong. That's what adults do.
Thanks for opening this can of worms again.
::runs to get popcorn and a beer::
The rest of this site doesn't matter to me. These ladies here are the ones I've become friends with over the last year, and they matter to me. I'm seeking forgiveness from these girls, who have meant and still mean a lot to me.
It feels like you're trying to rile me up again. I shouldn't have gotten riled up to begin with to go and say something purposefully hurtful to her, but I won't get riled up again.
I will admit, I said something very ugly to her out of anger for the kind of responses she's had for hundreds of bumpies over the last year, and yes, that does need to be apologized for. But if/when I apologize to her, it will be in private and not brought to the attention of the entire site. Just as it should be. But I wonder if, should I apologize to her, if I would get an apology for my H being made fun of?
Agreed. I'm so over the drama.
And here you're saying rotten mean things to me, probably to get me engaged into fighting with you. Enjoy yourself, I'm not into it. What I said WAS low, and you are correct. You are also low for the things you're calling me. Why is it okay for you to bash my H but I can't say something mean to someone else? What is with this 'I rule the boards and no one can defy me' mentality you have?
I'd hardly call an apology bile... but okay. You can see me how you want, I'm okay with that. And it's amazing when I called someone ugly I became a scum sucker, but you calling me all sorts of 'klassy' names doesn't make you an ugly, horrible, amoeba.
Do tell how calling someone a trashy idiot and ugly as well saying you will enjoy their misery classy on your end?
Take a step back a bit. She apologized and even though you obviously do not think it is efficient let it be and stop trying to create more drama from her apology. I've never had a problem with you and still don't but you are taking this a bit too far saying you will enjoy watching her never live it down.
Seriously, I mean the lady who called CPS on someone didn't even get flamed this hardcore and I think that is a lot more serious then someone calling someone else's child homely on the internet.
ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pay attention to MEEEEEEEE!!!
When people do something crappy on TB they have the right to apologize. She is no different.
Sure!! Absolutely! Just like I have the right to say it seems like she's being an attention hor.
I care about this board. I'm sure many of the Feb '11 moms care about this board.
...wow, how does everything end up exploding into a bunch of drama around here. More chocolate, less hormones!
BTW, I like this board, or at least the mamas on it. I don't like talking to the other mamas tee hee :-}
Tiff, I think you're fun and real. Please always be you.
I care about this board too! DD ended up being born in March, but I couldn't bring myself to move over to the March '11 board because I felt a bond with these mamas (even if I lurk more than I post!).
Tiff- I think its awesome that you were able to realize your mistake, and apologize for it with 100% class. Sometimes, amoung a large group of women.. that can be intimidating, and almost humiliating to admit you were wrong. Huge props for you.
As for anyone else talking crap, because Tiff decided to stand up and do the right thing.... I hope to God that you teach your children the opposite of the slander you are spewing here. Whether you believe the apology is sincere or not, that doesnt change the fact that it is indeed an apology.
Tiffany,
I don't usually post but I want to say that it takes a lot of courage to admit that you made a mistake. I think it's great that you acknowledge that you made a mistake. I also think that now it should be dropped. I care a lot about this board and it is pretty sh!tty that people insinuate that no one comes to this board, now care about it.
Drop it, its over. Lets move on. Glass of wine anyone?
Why can't I make a post, in the BMB I belong in, to the group of women I'm talking to? I don't understand how that's attention whore-ish. You came here seeking me out, kind of in a stalker-ish way. If I was an AW I'd have posted this in 6-9. This isn't a cry for attention, it's a plea for forgiveness. Interesting how you see things so differently from what they really are.
In fact, I think you coming to a board you aren't invested in just to make a couple of comments to get you seen is a bit AW... I love this board and have a right to talk to these women. You aren't friends with these women, you didn't share exciting moments in life with them, and you don't care that I need for them to know what happened yesterday. You're just here to be seen, like, 'Oh, look! I'm part of the mob too, see? Yay, I'm in!' I belong here. I mean, if I haven't upset too many 2/11 mommas, anyway.
ITA. How is saying a rude comment worse than a stranger calling CPS on someone when they don't even know if the story is true? I can take a guess as to why.
Okay, I was just going to keep quiet, and not say anything... but this... Oh, get over this whole husband thing. His hand looks like it belongs on Christina Aguilera. End of story.
I just can't....
I have to laugh.
A LOT!
Also, that pic could have only been better if he had been wearing a feather boa.
I cant even begin to describe how predictable people are.
Its the same predictable people, same predictable responses, same childish antics... And its the same people who act as if everyone else is beneath them.....
Irony at its best....
See, I'm baffled. Why was it NOT okay for me to say something out of anger, but when you get purposefully evil and spiteful, it's okay? Why are you allowed to act like this?
BTW, I know this won't matter to you any, but that picture was meant to be funny. He won that bottle of champagne and medal on the cruise ship we were on last year in a really hilarious contest. Every time I see that picture, I remember the wonderful time we had, and that picture still makes me laugh. It's a great memory!
Here, you are only being intentionally mean and spiteful. And I bet you won't be flamed for it at all. When I saw that you hadn't responded to this thread, I had hoped that you were above using it as an opportunity to just keep stabbing at me.
Oh cram it. You made some dramatic 619 word post on here talking about how terrible I am and crap like that. You knew it would get back to me. You had to know that. (No, I didn't take the time to count. I pasted it into Word to do the work for me.)
I didn't say anything to you. I simply enjoyed the humor of Cruelsound's statement. It was funny. Come on... admit it. Christina Aguilera's hand. That's funny.
You claim that pic was on some drunken cruise ship. So what's wrong with throwing on a feather boa? haha. I think it would have added a certain touch to it.
Save your drama for someone who cares. You were chewed up on multiple boards for your comment about my kid. Why? Not because I cried about it and asked anyone to defend me. But because it's a well known fact that kids are off limits. I would have never dreamed of saying anything about your kid. Like I said... I have standards, and that's far below them.
As for this long-standing horrible nickname you think we had... "Lady-hands" was not a nickname. It was/is an adjective.
You know why I don't have to make a long "feel sorry for me" apology? Because I didn't stoop to your level. I am better than that. I'm better than you.
And guess what... I don't care what you say about my daughter. Anyone with eyesight can see how cute she is. Your insult was a lame attempt to try to rile me up. You failed at doing so. I don't take the crap that anonymous hags on a message board say seriously.
You can rally up the same obvious party members and try to get them to talk more shiit about me... but in the end they look crazy and you look crappy.
That's an ironic statement
ETA: FTR, I think your baby is cute. I don't agree with the decision to take her anger out on your kid, but it happened. She apologized. I agree, dead horse is a pulpy mess. Time to go on with our online lives.
Look, I didn't make this thread. She did. She speaks directly about me in her post. I was linked here. You didn't see me making a thread out of the blue about this. I had let it go. She brought this crap up, I just responded. Take it up with her.
1. Telling me to cram it when this is a free country and I have freedom of speech is rude.
2. You didn't have to say it to me, you're talking about the man I married. If you don't have a relationship with a man worth defending, you're missing out.
3. It wasn't a drunken cruise. We won a bottle of champagne, and it sits still in the bottom of our pantry unopened. We don't drink.
4. You're right, it is off limits. I was purposefully trying to stab at you and hurt you, which is why I did it. It was unfair for comment on your LO. Why did I do it? Because I've been on this board for a year and I've seen that most of your posting is mean, terrible comments. It finally hit a boiling point with me. I should not have taken it out on your girl, yes. I was wrong. But in the same manner, how is it okay for you to rag on my H? And no, he can't defend himself because he's not on TB. If he were, yes, he'd defend himself. But he isn't, so he is just as unfair a target as any baby is.
5. You didn't stoop to my level? I didn't repost a pic of your daughter and make rude comments, YOU did. And you continue to slam him, when I've dropped and apologized for the comment I made.
7. I only wanted a rise out of you with the ugly baby comment. I haven't tried to do it since. If you've gotten a rise out of anything else, that's on you. And remember that beauty is in the eye of the beholder- like those chinese dogs.
8. I haven't sent anyone to flame you. I came here to appeal the the girls I've gotten close to. If you offended someone you cared for, I'm sure you'd do the same. You shouldn't see my talking to these girls, who I've gone through morning sickness, feeling babies' first kicks, finding out gender, planning nurseries and names and hardships and birth announcements, as gathering them for some big fight with you. Once again, anything they say is of their own accord. I'm glad a lot of them are forgiving me.
It means something to me. I know what friendship is, and these ladies have my heart.
Oh Tiffany. The free country defense.
Just so you know... in case there was any misunderstanding... you didn't hurt me with your comment about Avery. You didn't get a rise out of me. You don't effect my feelings of self-worth. I would certainly defend the man in my life.
What I wouldn't do it allow someone that exists only as a name on a screen to have such an impact on my personality and my frame of mind that I "hit a boiling point" "sent you off the deep end" or anything else. You don't know me in real life. You don't ever have to sit at a dinner party and endure my comments or opinions. You should have the wherewithal to be able to ignore people that are just names on a message board.
The fact that you let someone get to you that badly, it's sad. It's really quite pathetic. I think what you need to do it GBCB, and get some counseling. Perhaps work on ways to remove yourself from feeling so personally wounded by an internet comment.
I think when a forum makes such a dramatic impact on your psychological functioning, it's time to step away from the keyboard and find other productive things to do with your time.
Seriously.
Now... I have to wake up early in the morning, and tend to some errands. I'm sorry I can't offer you more advice, but I really do think you need some help.
I believe she's apologizing to us because a lot of us were baffled or upset by her behavior and told her so, and she wanted us to know that she was sorry she acted the way she did. Also, her words brought a slew of Bumpies spewing bile and hatred to our board when people got angry over what she said, and none of us were happy about the invasion. She was apologizing to us as a board because there's a lot of us here and apologizing to us individually would have taken forever. Thus, her post.
If/when she apologizes to Emjay, that can be accomplished through PM.
That's actually not what irony is at all. Just so you know.
I'm glad you said that Kate, because I didn't want to send another person off the deep end by correcting them.
Trust me... the only thing I don't like is her whiny "please pity me" posts.
And Cruelsound and I already do everything together. Just yesterday, we braided each others hair, and talking about the moments of our lives over some International coffee.
I've been gone from TB for far too long b/c I don't have a clue what's going on!!!
But...I have gotten to know Tiff and I think it shows class she came here and apologized to the people that really know her. So, Tiff, don't worry about anyone else...get over this crap and move on. The people tht know you, will understand, the people that don't....who CARES!!! This is an online community and I think people forget that when they get online...it's like TB sucks them into this made up world where clicks are formed an girls are flat out mean...I don't get it and never will....which is why I've been gone for so long...I can't stand the drama over such petty and dumb things.
If words shouldn't matter, then why is the pen mightier than the sword? (Edward Bulwer-Lytton, 1863, from the play Richelieu) Because words DO hurt. I don't know how you've convinced a lot of ladies to believe this is how it should be. Words can and do hurt. Just because I wanted hurt you, doesn't mean I did. I didn't say I did hurt you. This isn't about who looks strong online. I was sorry for being mean enough to TRY to hurt you.
I can't sit here and honestly believe you don't see the value in words or their effects on people. That's why a LOT of bumpies pretty much hate you- your words are mean and hateful, and purposefully so. Don't act like *I'm* the one who needs professional therapy because I see the value of words. They can be hurtful, online or in a letter.Just like you stabbing at my H. Just because YOU don't think it's hurtful to say such things (and justify your mean habit) doesn't mean it ISN'T mean or that I should be unaffected. You're pretty full of yourself to believe you can persuade me to think like you, when scholars from hundreds of years past agree with me. Or rather, I with them.
There will be no GBCB from me just because you want me to.
The ladies here seem to have forgiven me, and I'd like to stay. And I will, unless they are offended by me. This has nothing to do with you anymore.
This exactly!
Sigh... seriously? Look... here is a different quote: "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can never hurt me". You learn it in PRESCHOOL. You learn THEN not to let what some brat says to you bother you.
Did it really hurt you to learn, after all this time, that your husband doesn't have the most manly hands? Did it change the way you look at him? Did it make him a bad father? A bad husband? Did it make you less attracted to him? When he came home that night did you tell him that you think less of him? I doubt it. Hell, I'd hope not. So then, what DID it really hurt?
You're being dramatic. You loooooove everyone sitting here saying "oh it's okay Tiffany, because Emjay is so mean for saying your husbands are girly.
Get. Over. It. Seriously.
You're right. This isn't about me. I wasn't harmed by your comments. For that alone, I prevail. It is about your lack of restraint, your inability to differentiate real life damage from words some person you claim to hate on the internet makes, the fact that you can't stop whining.
If I were whining, I'd be begging you to stop saying the things you are. You really are pretty inflated with yourself, aren't you? And no, what you said about my H really had no effect on me. But the fact that you just kept digging, and digging, and digging at that SAME. LAME. THING. was what bothers me- it shows that you ARE trying to hurt me. Once again, justify why that's okay? You DO, CONSTANTLY, say very mean things and then when people DO get hurt by it, you get all Kindergarden-y with your, 'Oh, grows up, you babies! I can say what I want and you need to get thicker skinzz!' When the reality is, you find ways to keep being such a nasty spirit and then tell others they are the losers, when you are the one who's the loser. Yeah, sticks and stones my butt. Tell me, if you rmother said she hated you and wished you were never born- would that hurt? YES. Why? They're just words, right? So that means when your boyfriend says he loves you, you should ignore that too, right? Or what if your friends tell you your hair color is horrific? Yeah, the point I'm making is that--
WORDS.
DO.
MATTER.
DESPITE you trying (and clinging so desperately to as a way to justify your nasty spirit) to say they don't. Yes, the words of those who don't matter, don't matter. Agreed there, 100%. HOWEVER- you keep digging at the same stupid line because YOU are trying to hurt ME.
Anyway, you seem a little bit dull because you simply aren't getting my point. I've said this a few times now, and you're either avoiding it because I'm right and you'd hate to admit that, or you really just can't absorb it. I'm not going to claim to know which one it is, but it appears to be you just can't get the concept.
I'm not being an AW. I'm on the BMB I belong on. You came here looking for me. You seem to be the AW. Go back to your girls, high five each other's twats, and do what you do best. I can't believe I've wasted so much effort on you anyway.
As for the rest... *yawn*
Words from parents, boyfriends, friends are different than words from an INTERNET SCREEN NAME YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW!
Seriously... give up!
And I was born in February. Maybe I feel a kinship with the month board. My oldest son was a February baby also. ha.