With regards to amri's question...
amri1978:
If our DS grows up in the Bay Area, what will be the norm for his generation?
I think Libby brought up a good point...
soon2Bkranz:
I will say out of all my friends that have boys unless I have changed their diapers I have no idea if they are or are not.
My question... At what point do you think our boys will even ever be talking about their penises (sp?) with their fellow male friends?
Re: S/O of Circumcision poll...
I was talking to DH about this last week. He's a HS PE teacher. When I was in HS, we all took (group) showers after each class (UHG!). Apparently, they don't do this in school anymore (at least not at DHs school).
I guess my point is... I worried a lot about the "norms" of circumcision and how that would effect DS... but now I'm thinking - how the heck are they even going to know!?! Its not like its a hot topic of discussion!! (Maybe amongst the mom's it is!).
Based on a (hilarious) conversation that Eve and I had about vaginas two days ago, I'm going to say that this conversation will happen around 3.5 or 4. After that, they won't really care.
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When she went to the bathroom in the morning, my DH hadn't flushed the toilet when he woke up in the middle of the night to pee. Eve looked at me with a shame-on-you look for leaving pee in the potty. I told her it was daddy. She said, "Oh, he forgot to wipe his vagina." I giggled and reminded her that daddies don't have vaginas because they are boys.
She said, "Oh that's right. Girls have vaginas." She then asked to see my vagina (which I did not show her) and said "Cause, Mama, you have a BIG vagina and I have a little vagina." DH assures me that my vagina is not that big.
My DH is not circumcised and he says that it was really never an issue. He did play sports in high school and I'm assuming he has showered in front of other boys before during that time. Sure, our kids will be curious as young children, but will they carry that with them their entire life?
I swam my entire life and have always showered and changed in front of my friends. All our boobs, nipple area, etc developed and look so different but I never cared or wondered why.. KWIM? We didn't tease each other because I had big boobs and my BF had small boobs when we were 16. Isn't it kind of similar?
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Interesting question.
I can tell you for us, at age 4, Peyton has not really asked anything about girls or boys. They have group bathrooms at school (one room, 6 toilets, no doors) and he still hasn't asked anything.
My H was on the swim team his whole life, so he was aware of the guys that were and weren't from an age that he could comprehend there was a difference - young. But because of that, he really thinks it's not something boys are examining critically about each other, talking about, or making fun of. It just...is. Which is why, though he is circ'd, he is opposed to circ'ing any sons we (may or may not) have.
Ha!!! Out of the mouths of babes!!
I agree... it is similar. I notice differences in the girls at my school, but I certainly didn't talk about it.
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Ha!
Haaaaaaaa!!!!
All I know is that in college we knew exactly which guys weren't, lol. Maybe my friends and I share way too much information.
Oh, but we also talked about which gals had huge nipples or who had barely any. Gee, I guess we really do just love to talk, haha.
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But I think the key is does anyone care. I know from being in the gym whos carpet matches the drapes but I dont take a mental note of it...KWIM.
I would guess for most men that are more self conscience of the size or how well their balls hang than if they are snipped or not...
And if my son gets teased for being circ'ed I have a who bag full of comebacks for him to make so I am just not worried about that..
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I kind of always wondered why being the same circ.-wise was so important. I mean for girls, shape, size of breast is different. For boys shape, length and girth is also different. Those don't seem to be topics of concern for parents (mostly probably on account of control). To me it seemed like size would be a much bigger deal than presence, or lack-there-of foreskin.
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I think it is just another way for guys to tease eachother, especially regarding females. I mean, its not like a REALLY cares if another dude has a smaller penis than he does, but it is a way to promote your own superiority. I think guys who are circ'd think that females prefer it. I've never personally been with anyone who wasn't...but I don't think I would ever turn down a guy that I really liked if he wasn't.
None of my non-circ'd friends have ever had trouble with the ladies, (OMG, including Carlos...I don't get it), so the whole, "girls like circ'd better" argument goes out the window. I could see though, that for inexperienced teens it might be a concern.
I've seen a lot of teasing about the the way girls vaginas look in pics. Guys saying itl ooks like roast beef or their labia is too big or what not...but when it comes down to it, I dobt a guy is about to get laid and then be like, "Oh your p*ssy is too ugly." and leave.
My point is, all genitals are funny looking, but that ish doesn't matter when you're horny and trying to get some.
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I was going to say mine is lovely...then I realized you have seen it and decided I dont want to go there with you
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LOL! I'm glad I wasn't drinking anything, because my monitor would be covered right now.
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OMG!!! HA!
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