If you delete, there is an option to delete "children" posts. So you can delete everyone who hit respond to your post in the thread instead of the op, and I think the same goes if you quoted someone. So I'm guessing it is EK who is deleting.
1 of mine, and a few of eclaires and goose ar goe as well.....
that's because regardless of whether or not you quote someone if you hit reply to a post that is deleted vs. the original, your reply gets deleted too.
EK and Belle, you're both morons. And the idea that you're helping Kori is not only laughable, it's frightening. Hopefully you can console yourselves w/ your coddling if something happens in this situation. Plus, you can also remind yourselves that there are kids selling crack on the street corner.
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'cause crack peddling is the only real threat to a healthy upbringing.
duh, don't forget - you can also include going door to door begging for money as a threat. Courtesy of Joe.
Everything else? Totally cool.
I mean for god's sake. This woman was willing (whether crazy or not) to manipulate her husband into an effing terrible situation, then lie about it (probably for attention), etc. but she's well enough to not do that to her kids! She loves them.
COME ON. If she is that effing crazy she cannot discriminate between who she is manipulating and subsequently hurting.
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'cause crack peddling is the only real threat to a healthy upbringing.
duh, don't forget - you can also include going door to door begging for money as a threat. Courtesy of Joe.
Everything else? Totally cool.
I mean for god's sake. This woman was willing (whether crazy or not) to manipulate her husband into an effing terrible situation, then lie about it (probably for attention), etc. but she's well enough to not do that to her kids! She loves them.
COME ON. If she is that effing crazy she cannot discriminate between who she is manipulating and subsequently hurting.
Im thinking along the lines of her being not so much a DIRECT threat, as those poor kids suffering by osmosis...they're in the middle of a shiithurricane that they have no control over (nor does anyone else...) and that's scary.
and nobody has any self control.
and everyone is crying all day.
HOW is that healthy for them?
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'cause crack peddling is the only real threat to a healthy upbringing.
duh, don't forget - you can also include going door to door begging for money as a threat. Courtesy of Joe.
Everything else? Totally cool.
I mean for god's sake. This woman was willing (whether crazy or not) to manipulate her husband into an effing terrible situation, then lie about it (probably for attention), etc. but she's well enough to not do that to her kids! She loves them.
COME ON. If she is that effing crazy she cannot discriminate between who she is manipulating and subsequently hurting.
Im thinking along the lines of her being not so much a DIRECT threat, as those poor kids suffering by osmosis...they're in the middle of a shiithurricane that they have no control over (nor does anyone else...) and that's scary.
and nobody has any self control.
and everyone is crying all day.
HOW is that healthy for them?
It's not, but they're not selling crack or begging for crack money, so STFU, you bullying fvcker!!!!!
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Well,, I'm at work and don,t have time to play "analyze a strangers life". I haven't touched any replies and have no reason to. Think what you want. Pathetic.
hmmm..nest gods must be involved. mine is gone. and i didn't quote anyone.
oh, and i certainly didn't delete my one piece of yada yada yada on it. it wasn't that exciting or inquisitive.
although i pointed out how unhealthy it all was. i'm still reeling over certain statements in the op. how unhealthy the picture we were painted was.
folks were just reacting. one might think they should mind their own business on this message board, but well that would be pointless.
and it brought gibs out from self inflicted banishment. i couldn't type hmmmm.. enough times for that.
I think it was just EK deleting her posts- I guess if you hit REPLY (you don't even have to hit QUOTE) on a post that gets deeted with its "children posts" it'll take yours out, too.
so I guess we should only hit reply off of ops from now on to avoid that...
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Does EK know KB IRL? Is she privy to info we're not? I'm trying to figure out why she's defending her so much.
I got the impression Kori explained in detail what happened to EK the same night she posted as an AE here. I have no idea what their other contact is like off the nest.
Does EK know KB IRL? Is she privy to info we're not? I'm trying to figure out why she's defending her so much.
I got the impression Kori explained in detail what happened to EK the same night she posted as an AE here. I have no idea what their other contact is like off the nest.
I don't think they've met but they have each other's phone numbers. I'm ASSuming that once EK talked to Kori on Friday night Kori explained that all of the BDSM/rape stuff was somewhat untrue/made up/exaggerated/didn't happen that way since EK is staunchly saying that her husband is not a monster and that he isn't a rapist. Or she was - and then deleted that in the PP.
So whoTF knows? It's a mystery.
I also find it very amusing that Belle was staunchly on the rapist train on Friday, after apparently hearing it straight from Kori...but now that's not the case? And Kori is supposedly admitting it didn't happen the way she said it did.
They're probably all getting different stories.
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I'm sorry. When did I jump on the train and off? I don't think I'm that old and forgetful yet. I'm seriously starting to question the reading comprehension skills around here.
So Belle you are still on the he's an abusive rapist train? You were pretty certain, but now EK claims the kids are perfectly safe, he's not a monster, he didn't snap, it's all in Kori's head...
I'd go back and quote but she deleted.
Are you saying that you think the kids aren't safe with him and that her initial story is the truth? I can go dig up the thread where you argued w/ all of us over it being rape or not and chastising us for even questioning such a thing.
Please clarify.
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I went back and reread my post, and perhaps I could have been more clear in my first post, or maybe you're the one with reading comprehension issues. In the initial post from Kori claiming the AE, you were staunchly on the "rapist" train.
I'm not saying that's not the case for YOU now. I'm saying that's what EK was saying in the deleted posts and that is what I'm questioning.
It appears that you talked to her at some point, based on the post where she outs herself, and EK claims to have talked to her and stated the kids are fine with him, etc.
Which is it? That's what I'm asking at this point.
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My comments as far as him raping her were based on her saying she tried to get him to stop because for me any sexual encounter that continues after that is assault or rape. I don't care if it was a misunderstanding. I've been consistent with that. I feel that there are numerous issues, individually and as a couple, they need to deal with and *their* relationship has a volatile aspect to it but I don't think it extends to their kids. Do I think it's healthy for kids to be subject to whatever issues their parents have? No. Do I think either of them will actually, physically hurt them or that he is a threat to S & B? No. Those are my opinions. No one has to agree with them. As I've said, I'm not there so I don't know with 100% certainty what's going on. None of us do. The same thing Kori has said on here is the same thing she has said to me. There is no differing story. We obviously just see it differently and that's that.
they rapin' erebody in the next room! also- don't those kids not sleep through the night? (that'd be enough to make me bonkers.)
not a good environment for kids, you guys. not good.
is brett going to rape them? hope not- doesn't SEEM likely, unless they coerce him into some sort of agreement, I guess- since he doesn't know better.
is anyone going to punch them or make them sell drugs o the corner?
probably not...
but are they supposed to sleep soundly in the next room whle their mom is getting raped- or pretending to, or what the eff ever, and then both of the parents are running around crying all day long?
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But EK has claimed there IS a differing story. That Kori admitted to her that what she said here is in her head or something...if she hadn't deleted, I could go back and C&P. But that's why he's safe around the kids, and the social worker sent them home from the ER.
So you got the old story, EK got a different story (I guess) or you both heard the same stories but have different perspectives.
This is what I'm amused by. I hope that clears up what I was saying.
It's a clusterf*ck, that's for sure. I just hope the kids are taken care of.
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Are you guys happy that all of this could be detrimental to her? Are you at all aware of that? If something happens, guess we'll have all of this to read for fun.
mmkay. I know for a fact you used the phrase "in her head." Maybe it's not what Kori said to you, but it is in fact what YOU said about the situation.
You can't have it both ways, EK. If she is so bad off that what is posted in this thread is going to cause a crazy reaction, then the situation IS NOT safe for the kids. They are being affected. They will be affected. They are in danger. She can't be sane enough to care for them (as long as they go to daycare during the day??) but f*cked up enough for this thread to trigger a reaction.
But whatever, no crack. It's all good.
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Hasn't K already posted multiple times about her DD having symptoms of anxiety? The idea of that poor girl in this environment breaks my heart. Regardless of what happened the other night between K & B (to what extent it was a miscommunication vs an assault/rape, etc), the dysfunction is at critical mass here. Wow.
Hasn't K already posted multiple times about her DD having symptoms of anxiety? The idea of that poor girl in this environment breaks my heart. Regardless of what happened the other night between K & B (to what extent it was a miscommunication vs an assault/rape, etc), the dysfunction is at critical mass here. Wow.
yep. Which is why I think the kids are already affected. I mean, how could you not be? She frequently says that S is very sensitive, anxious, etc.
but whatever, they're fine, but us talking about it here is across the line and will be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
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Are you guys happy that all of this could be detrimental to her? Are you at all aware of that? If something happens, guess we'll have all of this to read for fun.
Honestly, I don't know how I feel about any of this, but the thing with Kori is that she's never been one to coddle people. In fact, I distinctly remember at least two times where she very openly questioned people on touchy matters in a pretty blunt way. And after the AE post when ghm chastised those who questioned whether it was MUD, did she not respond that ghm was being "that guy" again? As in holier than thou? Maybe I'm making that up, but I'm pretty sure she did.
So honestly EK, I think you're going overboard here. Kori can dish it out with the best of them and she can take it. And she did post all that information here and she's been around here long enough to know the drill. Obviously people are going to have strong reactions to it all.
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Are you guys happy that all of this could be detrimental to her? Are you at all aware of that? If something happens, guess we'll have all of this to read for fun.
which is it EK? the kids are not in peril, because stability abounds, OR reading disparaging remarks on the message board will turn her into andrea yates?
one or the other, but not both. and why? you wanna help put a stop to this?
then fill everyone in on what illuminating insider info you seem to have.
ETA: you know- I don't know that anyone is even really being DISPARAGING, so much as questioning what's true and whether the most important people (sam and bryan) are safe and out of harms way (not just physical harm goddamn it)
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No one knows what happened except Kori. No.one. So to say her DH isn't a monster, etc, is asinine. You don't live in their house. You have NO clue what really goes on. Just like the poster mentioned about her ex yesterday, there can be a public and private persona's. EK, you seem like the type that wants to swoop in and be the BFF, the helper, the saver. I think you enjoy the stress and anxiety of being put through the ringer trying to be the savior. That's fine in the exact right circumstances where the quantities are known. This? Not so much.
I went through something way different than this w/ a friend, but the underlying fear of her safety was the same. And you know what? It was illuminating to who she really is. So, I truly think you need to take a step back. You didn't call the authorities because you were worried about your family's safety. A true friendship wouldn't be tested like this. I'd call the cops in a heartbeat if I thought it was the right thing to do, and a true friendship would stand that test. I had to reach out to some estranged mutual friends when I went through this. It was scary and I was shaking, but I never, every questioned my friend retaliating. If I thought for a second that having a friendship where calling the authorities on someone in need would result in retaliation? That is a clear sign something is wrong.
Who exactly was going to be doing the retaliating?! Kori? Her husband? I got totally lost on this part (have to admit I didn't read it very carefully). If EK was worried that K's DH would retaliate, then how can she possibly be so adamant about saying he's not a monster??!!!
This whole thing just gets weirder and weirder. I hope they are all okay.
Re: who's deleting?
{Ava 5.16.06} {Ella 12.29.07} {Drew 2.9.10}
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hey- why does THAT not surprise me?
that's because regardless of whether or not you quote someone if you hit reply to a post that is deleted vs. the original, your reply gets deleted too.
EK and Belle, you're both morons. And the idea that you're helping Kori is not only laughable, it's frightening. Hopefully you can console yourselves w/ your coddling if something happens in this situation. Plus, you can also remind yourselves that there are kids selling crack on the street corner.
I'd like to stay and play, but I am going to go paint over grafitti down in the ghetto.
Later.
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huh?
has kori told you anything that makes any sense?
are her kids still with them?
Make sure you don't give anyone any money, because you KNOW they are just going to use it to buy crack.
You take my ovaries, I take your yarns.
duh, don't forget - you can also include going door to door begging for money as a threat. Courtesy of Joe.
Everything else? Totally cool.
I mean for god's sake. This woman was willing (whether crazy or not) to manipulate her husband into an effing terrible situation, then lie about it (probably for attention), etc. but she's well enough to not do that to her kids! She loves them.
COME ON. If she is that effing crazy she cannot discriminate between who she is manipulating and subsequently hurting.
Im thinking along the lines of her being not so much a DIRECT threat, as those poor kids suffering by osmosis...they're in the middle of a shiithurricane that they have no control over (nor does anyone else...) and that's scary.
and nobody has any self control.
and everyone is crying all day.
HOW is that healthy for them?
It's not, but they're not selling crack or begging for crack money, so STFU, you bullying fvcker!!!!!
Well this needs to be reposted.
EK thinks we are bullies, but a rapist isn't a monster.
Your judge of character meter is wonky. Maybe there is a screw loose. You should look into it. HTH
You take my ovaries, I take your yarns.
Well, who doesn't love smurfs? lol Smurfs are so...smurfy!
hmmm..nest gods must be involved. mine is gone. and i didn't quote anyone.
oh, and i certainly didn't delete my one piece of yada yada yada on it. it wasn't that exciting or inquisitive.
although i pointed out how unhealthy it all was. i'm still reeling over certain statements in the op. how unhealthy the picture we were painted was.
folks were just reacting. one might think they should mind their own business on this message board, but well that would be pointless.
and it brought gibs out from self inflicted banishment. i couldn't type hmmmm.. enough times for that.
I think it was just EK deleting her posts- I guess if you hit REPLY (you don't even have to hit QUOTE) on a post that gets deeted with its "children posts" it'll take yours out, too.
so I guess we should only hit reply off of ops from now on to avoid that...
I don't think they've met but they have each other's phone numbers. I'm ASSuming that once EK talked to Kori on Friday night Kori explained that all of the BDSM/rape stuff was somewhat untrue/made up/exaggerated/didn't happen that way since EK is staunchly saying that her husband is not a monster and that he isn't a rapist. Or she was - and then deleted that in the PP.
So whoTF knows? It's a mystery.
I also find it very amusing that Belle was staunchly on the rapist train on Friday, after apparently hearing it straight from Kori...but now that's not the case? And Kori is supposedly admitting it didn't happen the way she said it did.
They're probably all getting different stories.
So Belle you are still on the he's an abusive rapist train? You were pretty certain, but now EK claims the kids are perfectly safe, he's not a monster, he didn't snap, it's all in Kori's head...
I'd go back and quote but she deleted.
Are you saying that you think the kids aren't safe with him and that her initial story is the truth? I can go dig up the thread where you argued w/ all of us over it being rape or not and chastising us for even questioning such a thing.
Please clarify.
I went back and reread my post, and perhaps I could have been more clear in my first post, or maybe you're the one with reading comprehension issues. In the initial post from Kori claiming the AE, you were staunchly on the "rapist" train.
I'm not saying that's not the case for YOU now. I'm saying that's what EK was saying in the deleted posts and that is what I'm questioning.
It appears that you talked to her at some point, based on the post where she outs herself, and EK claims to have talked to her and stated the kids are fine with him, etc.
Which is it? That's what I'm asking at this point.
they rapin' erebody in the next room! also- don't those kids not sleep through the night? (that'd be enough to make me bonkers.)
not a good environment for kids, you guys. not good.
is brett going to rape them? hope not- doesn't SEEM likely, unless they coerce him into some sort of agreement, I guess- since he doesn't know better.
is anyone going to punch them or make them sell drugs o the corner?
probably not...
but are they supposed to sleep soundly in the next room whle their mom is getting raped- or pretending to, or what the eff ever, and then both of the parents are running around crying all day long?
But EK has claimed there IS a differing story. That Kori admitted to her that what she said here is in her head or something...if she hadn't deleted, I could go back and C&P. But that's why he's safe around the kids, and the social worker sent them home from the ER.
So you got the old story, EK got a different story (I guess) or you both heard the same stories but have different perspectives.
This is what I'm amused by. I hope that clears up what I was saying.
It's a clusterf*ck, that's for sure. I just hope the kids are taken care of.
I never said Kori told me it was all in her head.
Are you guys happy that all of this could be detrimental to her? Are you at all aware of that? If something happens, guess we'll have all of this to read for fun.
mmkay. I know for a fact you used the phrase "in her head." Maybe it's not what Kori said to you, but it is in fact what YOU said about the situation.
You can't have it both ways, EK. If she is so bad off that what is posted in this thread is going to cause a crazy reaction, then the situation IS NOT safe for the kids. They are being affected. They will be affected. They are in danger. She can't be sane enough to care for them (as long as they go to daycare during the day??) but f*cked up enough for this thread to trigger a reaction.
But whatever, no crack. It's all good.
{Ava 5.16.06} {Ella 12.29.07} {Drew 2.9.10}
yep. Which is why I think the kids are already affected. I mean, how could you not be? She frequently says that S is very sensitive, anxious, etc.
but whatever, they're fine, but us talking about it here is across the line and will be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
Honestly, I don't know how I feel about any of this, but the thing with Kori is that she's never been one to coddle people. In fact, I distinctly remember at least two times where she very openly questioned people on touchy matters in a pretty blunt way. And after the AE post when ghm chastised those who questioned whether it was MUD, did she not respond that ghm was being "that guy" again? As in holier than thou? Maybe I'm making that up, but I'm pretty sure she did.
So honestly EK, I think you're going overboard here. Kori can dish it out with the best of them and she can take it. And she did post all that information here and she's been around here long enough to know the drill. Obviously people are going to have strong reactions to it all.
Alex (11/14/06) and Nate (5/25/10)
"Want what you have, do what you can, be who you are." - Rev. Forrest Church
which is it EK? the kids are not in peril, because stability abounds, OR reading disparaging remarks on the message board will turn her into andrea yates?
one or the other, but not both. and why? you wanna help put a stop to this?
then fill everyone in on what illuminating insider info you seem to have.
ETA: you know- I don't know that anyone is even really being DISPARAGING, so much as questioning what's true and whether the most important people (sam and bryan) are safe and out of harms way (not just physical harm goddamn it)
No one knows what happened except Kori. No.one. So to say her DH isn't a monster, etc, is asinine. You don't live in their house. You have NO clue what really goes on. Just like the poster mentioned about her ex yesterday, there can be a public and private persona's. EK, you seem like the type that wants to swoop in and be the BFF, the helper, the saver. I think you enjoy the stress and anxiety of being put through the ringer trying to be the savior. That's fine in the exact right circumstances where the quantities are known. This? Not so much.
I went through something way different than this w/ a friend, but the underlying fear of her safety was the same. And you know what? It was illuminating to who she really is. So, I truly think you need to take a step back. You didn't call the authorities because you were worried about your family's safety. A true friendship wouldn't be tested like this. I'd call the cops in a heartbeat if I thought it was the right thing to do, and a true friendship would stand that test. I had to reach out to some estranged mutual friends when I went through this. It was scary and I was shaking, but I never, every questioned my friend retaliating. If I thought for a second that having a friendship where calling the authorities on someone in need would result in retaliation? That is a clear sign something is wrong.
That has been bothering me for every thread.
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Who exactly was going to be doing the retaliating?! Kori? Her husband? I got totally lost on this part (have to admit I didn't read it very carefully). If EK was worried that K's DH would retaliate, then how can she possibly be so adamant about saying he's not a monster??!!!
This whole thing just gets weirder and weirder. I hope they are all okay.