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Does anyone else hate who IF has made them become? (long and vent)

I do not like the person I am these days at all.  I have totally isolated myself from friends and family and feel so angry.

I am still going to therapy but I think not working is the worst thing that could have happened.  I have all this time to just sit and think and well...feel sorry for myself.

I am surrounded by pregnant friends and family and newborns and it is just too hard.  I WANT to be happy for them and I KNOW that my IF and loss is not their fault but I am having a hard time actually feeling that way.

Even friends I have met because of IF from these boards and my RESOLVE group I feel jealous of these days because they can have a successful pregnancy at least when they do get pregnant.

I have had IUIs, IVF, being OOP for all it and then had a terrifying pregnancy that ended with a labor and epidural and my babies dying.  Now I am having the equivalent of a c-section and will never be able to experience vaginal delivery again.  I hate that my only time experiencing that was when my babies died; but I know that I need a trans-abdominal cerclage or else I will never be brave enough to try again knowing that my body could cause more babies to die. I am having such a pity party for one.

I know people have had it worse than I have but we just seems to be such a small minority.

 Please tell me I am not the only one who has hateful/jealous moments.  I feel like such a terrible person sometimes.

On a somewhat different note...I have started outlining a book.  I am not sure it will ever go anywhere; but I am hoping the writing process will keep me sane while I wait for my surgery date.  I had a few short stories and poems published in college and I've always wanted to attempt a full book, so I figure what the hell?

TTC since 07/2009
Me: PCOS, Blood/Immune Issues DH: Low all 3
Jun.- Sep. 2010 IUI#1-#3 = BFN
Oct. 2010 = IVF #1 = B/G Twins (passed away Feb. 2011)
May 2011 = Myomectomy and trans-abdominal cerclage (TAC)
Sep. 2011 = Surprise BFP = C/P
Feb. 2012 = sFET #1 = BFN
Feb.2012 = Hail Mary IUI #4 = BFN
April/May 2012 = FET #2 w/our last two embies = BFP (Please let this be it!)
Beta #1 8dp5/6dt = 234 Beta #2 10dp5/6dt = 695 Beta #3 12dp5/6dt = 1796 Beta #4 17dp5/6dt = 17,888 U/S #1 May 17, 2012 = Twins
Baby B's heart stop beating at 9 weeks 5 days
Our little miracle baby is a boy. :)

Baby Boy Owen and Baby Girl Avery were born too early on Feb. 13, 2011 due to a pedunculated fibroid, incompetent cervix and suspected placental abruption.
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Re: Does anyone else hate who IF has made them become? (long and vent)

  • Huge hugs. You have been through so much, your feelings are completely understandable. I do feel very much the same way on many of your points, though you have experiences way beyond the scope of my own. I hope your book project keeps you sane and is helpful to others someday.
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  • Yes, big hugs to you. All of us in the IF feel just the same way. You are grieving and it is totally natural for you to feel the way you do. IF is sooo unfair! 

     Hopefully, you will be ready to try again one day and I wish you lots of luck! 

    Diagnosis: MFI and Egg Quality Issues IVF#1-October-BFN ER-16 eggs, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 2transferred and no frozen IVF#2- March-Beta 3/19 ER- 12 eggs, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 2 transferred and 1 frozen-BFN. IVF#3 July ER-19 eggs, 13 mature, 10 fertilized...waiting til Day 5 to PGD. PGD results-4 out of 5 embryos are normal and will be banked. IVF#4 Sept 11' 22 eggs, 16 mature, 15 fertilized...waiting til Day 5 to PGD. Total normal embryos banked, quality varies: FET-Nov 11'-BFP Beta #1: 156, Beta #2: 489 First u/s revealed TWINS!! 2nd u/s= 2 beautiful heartbeats! 12/17 Lost one of the twins :(BabyFruit Ticker
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    ((HUGE HUGS))  I hate what IF can do to us.  You have been throught a lot.  It is completely understandable for you to have these feelings.  I have definitely had some of the same feelings and I know that their is nothing anyone can say that will make those feelings go away.  Try not to be hard on yourself.  It will only make you feel worse.

    Good luck with the book!  That sounds like a great project!  That is something I wish I could do!

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    ~SAIF/PAIF/Everyone Welcome~ 

    Me= 37 and DH = 41 

    Dx: DOR, Endo, APA+ (really high beta 2 glycoprotein antibody and high everything else tested), heterozygous MTHFR mutation, positive for lupus anticoagulant, high FSH, low AMH and both tubes blocked (per HSG on 3/8/11)

    IVF #1 - long lupron (with HGH, intralipids, lovenox and BA); 4 retrieved, 3 fertilized; ET 2 blasts and 1 frozen = BFN

    IVF #2 - a version of antagonist with EPP (with HGH, intralipids, lovenox and BA); 6 retrieved, 4 mature, 3 fertilized, 2 blasts and 1 frozen blast transferred on day 5 = BFN.

    IVF #3 April was postponed to May, May was canceled. June/July was canceled. Had a cyst aspiration and then began IVF #3 in August. ER on 8/22; ET on 8/24 with AH. +HPT on 9/5. Beta #1 (11dpo) = 3; Beta #2 (15dpo) = 29; Beta #3 (17dpo) = 60; Beta #4 (19 dpo) = 118. Heartbeat at 6 weeks 6 days =132.  Lil is here!

    TTC#2:  Trigger + TI = BFN; Clomid + Trigger + IUI = BFN.

    IVF #4:  BCP + MDLF + Lovenox = 7R, 1F = Transferred 1 6-cell embryo on day 3 = BFN

    IVF #5:  MDLF + Lovenox = 4R, 1F = Transferred 1 10-cell compacting embryo on day 3 = BFN

    IVF #6:  (New RE):  Long Antagonist November 2014 (transferred two 8 cell grade 1 embryos and froze one blast) = BFN

    FET#1:  BFN

  • Oh Luvie I'm sitting here in tears reading this.  I can't say I know how you feel bc you have been through so so much.  But I just wanted to offer my support and say I am thinking of you, and you have my prayers that these new things you're doing with the doctors in Chicago will lead you to a safe, healthy, and happy full term pregnancy and healthy baby.  Huge hugs my friend.
    11/10: IUI #1 =100mg Clomid CD4-8 + pregnyl trigger + IUI = chemical pregnancy
    1/11: IUI #2 = 5mg Femara + trigger + IUI = BFN
    2/11: IUI #3 = injectibles + trigger + IUI = BFN
    IVF #1 April 2011 ER 4/23 w/16 eggs retrieved, 14 mature, 11 fert., 4 blasts to freeze, 5dt of 2 blasts on 4/28, beta #1 5/7 = 243... beta #2 5/9 = 491....beta #3 5/11 = 1113!!
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  • Oh sweetie.  You have been through way more then anyone should have to.  You would be clinically crazy if that experience didn't change you in some way.

    Just try to remind yourself that there is nothing you can do to change what happened and try to keep plugging ahead.

    Big Huge Hugs sweetie!

    Our Blog - http://thedittemores.blogspot.com/
    Dx PCOS 2003/high fasting insulin/clotting issues DH Dx with low sperm count, motility and morphology. Varicocele repair (11/1/2010)
    2/2011 - Confirmed no improvement - On to Donor Sperm
    4 failed IUIs in 2010
    IUI#5 and 6- with DS, BFN
    Final IUI - Lucky #7! IUI with DS - 20.Jun.2011 - 21.5 mil motile! Not so lucky - BFFN and the end of our IF journey....
    Waiting for our family to be complete through Adoption - May 2012 - Hoping our baby finds us soon!
  • ((((Hugs))))  I'm so sorry you are going through this.  I HATE IF and all the crap that comes with it.  (((((((((((((((Hugs)))))))))))))))
    After 4.5 years our miracle IVF baby is here!
    Born 7/30/13
  • I feel exactly the same way. ((HUGS))
    Dx: High FSH, stage IV endo, homozygous C677T MTHFR and PAI-1
    Early loss 10/08
    Lap 1/09
    IVF #1 "natural IVF" - 1 egg retrieved, missed m/c
    Tried several mini-stim cycles with no response
    Switched clinics - dx'd as carrier for Fragile X
    IVF #2 MDL protocol Jan/Feb converted to IUI, BFN
    IVF #2 take 2: Antagonist, one embie, BFN
    IVF #3: Antagonist, no fertilization
    One last ditch effort at OE IVF (antagonist with Clomid) cancelled
    DE cycle #1 Jan/Feb 2011, BFP, ectopic
    DE cycle #2 June/July 2011 - BFP
    10/28/11 Baby girl lost at 17 weeks due to pre-term labor. We love and miss you.
    DE cycle #3 June/July 2012 - BFP, twins, both heartbeats stopped, D&C
    2 frosties but don't know what's next
    FET Dec 2012: BFP! Praying this one sticks for the long haul!
  • Oh sweetie!  You have been through too much!  It is beyond unfair and you're feeling are so completely understandable!!  Huge ((hugs))
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  • I know how you are feeling all too well and it's not fair that either of us (or anyone else) has to feel this way. Grief is a lifelong journey. Somedays will be easier and some days (weeks, months) will be harder. Anger is a very normal part of this.

    I'm pissed often at how easy it is for some people and how much people take getting pg and carrying a pg to term for granted. I just want to shake them sometimes until their teeth rattle. 

    You are absolutely not a terrible person. You aren't not happy for them you are just sad for you and that is okay.

    I'm terrified of a vaginal delivery since Cal got stuck and died sometime while stuck in the birth canal. My body did that. What if it happens again? 

    ((huge hugs)) 

    I hope writing helps you.  Let me know if you want to talk.

    TTC with severe MFI since 9/08 IVF w/ ICSI #1 May/June 2010= BFP twins
    Callan George and Bennett Charles born and died 11/7/10
    Lilypie Angel and Memorial tickers
    FET #1 April 2011= BFN
    FET #2 July 2011= no transfer because my lining sucked
    FET #3 February 2012= BFP! 1st beta 9dp5dt=314 2nd beta 11dp5dt=977 1st U/S 3/20 Twins- Heart rates of 111 and 138 Pregnancy Ticker
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  • BIG (((HUGS))) 

    IF is terrible to all of us, it's all unfair and none of us should have to go through any of it and you have been through so much, it's expected it would change you.  IF changes all of us.  Today you are having a bad day, tomorrow might be bad too, but you will feel a little better each and every day that goes by.

    You are always in my thoughts!

    TTC #1 Since 11/08 - Dx: MFI & PCOS
    7 IUIs = All BFNs
    2011: March IVF #1.2 = e/p @ 6w: May IVF #2 = BFN: July sFET #1 = BFN

    2012: Jan We're Certified FC/A Parents
    May IVF #3 = c/p
    June-Nov Foster Mommy to M (Toddler)
    July FET #2 = BFN
    Aug FET #3 = BFN
    Sept-Nov Foster Mommy to Baby Bella (Newborn)
    Nov HSG/Sono = Clear!
    Dec FET #4 = BFN

    2013: Feb FET #5 = m/c @ 6.5w
    May-July Foster Mom to H (8 yr old girl)
    June/July/Aug IVF #4 = Freeze All
    July = Unofficially Adopting T (10 yr old boy)
    Sept FET #6 = TBD
    **PAIF/SAIF Welcome**
  • ((((hugs))))

     

    TTC #1 since June 2008 *SAIFW*

    TI, IUIs, IVF = c/ps and BFNs

  • Huge Hugs, I can't even imagine how hard this has all been.

    Yes, i do relate to what you are saying.  I don't like who I have become.  I feel like i am full of hate, towards all and everyone.

    I irrationally have anger towards people who conceived naturally.  I would rather watch TV than be social...and some friends, i can't even stand the idea of talking to.

    I'm seeing a therapist too, but no "light bulb moments" yet for me either.

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  • I'm sorry....no one should have to feel this way. I also struggle every day with baby pics and pg announcements and baby shower invites,etc. Some days are better than others and it really depends on my mood. That is the scary part sometimes becasue I have been caught in situations where I tear up or get red and I hate showing vulnerability. 6 failed IVFs,m/c etc and now we are onto DE $$$$$$. So, I get how you feel.

    You are not alone. You can page me any time and I'll give you my email if you want. We're all here to listen ((hugs))

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  • Thanks so much ladies - it helps to not feel so alone.  I just feel so guilty for the way I have been feeling...I look in the mirror sometimes and barely recognize the person I have become.

    I know many have you been through more years of IF and IVF than I have by far, and I admire your strength for not giving up more than I could describe.

     

    TTC since 07/2009
    Me: PCOS, Blood/Immune Issues DH: Low all 3
    Jun.- Sep. 2010 IUI#1-#3 = BFN
    Oct. 2010 = IVF #1 = B/G Twins (passed away Feb. 2011)
    May 2011 = Myomectomy and trans-abdominal cerclage (TAC)
    Sep. 2011 = Surprise BFP = C/P
    Feb. 2012 = sFET #1 = BFN
    Feb.2012 = Hail Mary IUI #4 = BFN
    April/May 2012 = FET #2 w/our last two embies = BFP (Please let this be it!)
    Beta #1 8dp5/6dt = 234 Beta #2 10dp5/6dt = 695 Beta #3 12dp5/6dt = 1796 Beta #4 17dp5/6dt = 17,888 U/S #1 May 17, 2012 = Twins
    Baby B's heart stop beating at 9 weeks 5 days
    Our little miracle baby is a boy. :)

    Baby Boy Owen and Baby Girl Avery were born too early on Feb. 13, 2011 due to a pedunculated fibroid, incompetent cervix and suspected placental abruption.
    Lilypie Angel and Memorial tickers

    "What the heart has once owned and had, it shall never lose." - Henry Ward Beecher
    SAIF/PAIF Welcome
    Lots of love and luck to my PAIF/3T/IF Veteran ladies, especially my dear friend Zookie. Congrats to Papps, Teach84 and Starbuck on their little ones.
  • HUGE, HUGE ((((HUGS)))) You have been through something that is, as Edwina said, above and beyond what most of us on here have. How could you possibly not feel angry, sad, resentful? I know you already know this, but sometimes it helps to hear - whatever you're feeling is the "right" way to feel. You are a strong, kind and brave, and I know you will heal in time. Not ever forget, but heal. Publishing your work sounds like a perfect way to begin that healing process. I hope to read some of what you've written some day!
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  • Hang in there sweetie.  It's so hard.  So, so hard.  I've been getting worse lately too.  It's like right when our babies died, we went into shock.  Now that time has passed, the wall that we put up to be able to live is coming down and we get in a rut. 

    My SIL is about to deliver and my sister is due in September.  Several friends just had babies and are due through July.  I feel so selfish but I can't even talk to them because of my own issues.  My sister is my best friend and all I could do was text her on her birthday 2 weeks ago.  I cried even doing that.  :(

    This is the absolute worst club to be in but you're not alone.

     I absolutely love the idea of you working on a book.  I think it will be therapeutic! 

    Thinking of your angels and mine....

     PM me if you want to chat more.

     

     


    TTC Since 10/08 4 IUIs=BFNx4
    IVF#1=BFP!! Twins!!
    Bradley and Billy born and lost on 2/2/11 at 19w2d due to pPROM/PTL. I miss you, little angels.
    IVF#2=BFN
    IVF#3=c/p IVF#4=Empty Follicle Syndrome; 1 mature, fertilized, & made it to blast. 5dt of "the lone ranger" on 9/6. Please stick, little one! Image and video hosting by TinyPic Lilypie First Birthday tickers
  • ::huge hugs::

    You have every right to feel the way you feel. You have been thru so much.

    I hate myself for the things I think, for being unhappy sometimes (read, a lot more than i ever was), for putting on a fake smile or voice when an announcement happens.

    I have become a bitter person, a very jealous person and i truly do try to look at the positive things, I try to focus on what you said, that it is their fault we have IF and they dont, because its truly not. its so hard.

    My bff just had a baby yesterday, while happy for them, i am just so sad for me, for us, that im failing DH. I feel that way a lot.

    Good luck with your book, hun.

    ::hugs::

    TTC #2 since June '08

    ~*DD 10.21.07*~

    dx unexplained

    IUI #1-4 BFN

    IVF#1 June 2011 BFN

    IVF#2 Dec 2011

    Beta#1 12/21 : 812 Beta#2 12/23 : 1634

    EDD 8/25

    *PAIFW/SAIFW*

  • Sending you huge huge ((hugs)).  IF sucks in so many ways.

    I feel so similar to how you described (although we've had different IF paths.)  I hate IF for robbing me of being able to have a normal pregnancy.  However, there is collateral damage to being IF and that makes me equally as sad.  My relationship with friends and family has been seriously affected by IF.  I hate that it has and wish I could change it.  But emotionally, I struggle with friendships and when I have such feelings of jealousy b/c they can get and stay pregnant and I can't.  I'd rather stay home most nights rather than go out and pretend I'm happy.  I avoid reunions b/c I can't bear the thought of answering the "Do you have kids?" question.

    I wish I had some words to make your pain and sadness go away.  All I can tell you is that you are not alone in having these moments.

     

    *P/SAIFW* TTC since 1/08 Clomid, 2 IUIs, 4 IVFs, FET 7 losses Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker
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