Growing up my Dad always had guns. Old shot guns and a smaller gun for protection in the top of his closet. It was always known by me.
I for the most part have been against having guns in the house with my future kids.
We live in a pretty safe suburb of Houston but even here lately the news has been focusing on breakins. They are kicking in doors while people are home. DH made the comment the other night that if someone were to break in he would have no way to protect us and wants to consider getting a gun. I know he thought I'd knock the idea right away but I'm actually considering it. We discussed gun safety and that they lock, taking classes etc..
What are your thoughts on guns in the house with Children?
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My H loves guns so much, but I wont let him have any right now. Our dd gets into everything and is so smart that I am scared she could get into a gun case... I will let H get one when our kids are older and can understand safety.
*Now that we have a garage I may consider letting him keep one (very locked up and high) in there... but I am not so sure.
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we live in az, and dh has had the same thoughts about getting a gun to have here
i don't see a problem with it as long as you, and your children are educated about how to handle them (or not handle them for your kids)
as with anything, education is the key...
H likes to shoot for fun & has a shotgun in our bedroom. It's always unloaded and locked in its case (with a combination lock).
I don't mind having THAT kind of gun in my house. I wouldn't want a handgun that is used for protection, especially if it is left loaded at all times. The only exception to me would be if my H was some kind of law enforcement officer.
We had them growing up, but I have never (even to this day!) seen them. I have no idea where they were hidden. I did know that if I were ever to stumble on one that they were not toys, and I'm fairly sure I would not have touched it.
I have no problem with it, but neither my husband or myself are comfortable with guns, and it would probably end up being more dangerous for us to have it than not for us.
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My only problem with his reasoning is that study after study has proven that reaction time in situations like that (caught completely off guard) has not allowed the gun owner to get and use the device properly.
For instance: say you have the gun in a bureau and someone knocks in your door while you are cooking dinner. Do you really think that him and/or you would have sufficient time to get to the gun, load it, take off safety and shoot it before the assailant attacked you?
I worked with guns in the army (ammunition supply specialist and sharpshooter) and still would not have a gun in the house simply because it would basically be a paper weight.
If you do decide make sure that both you and him take extensive hand gun training and see if there are classes that can test you in r/l scenarios before you completely decide if it is a good idea for your family.
Just my $.02
Guns aren't for us. I'm not against others owning them for protection or hunting though.
I will also add that my wonderful big brother who is not a scary person AT ALL once pointed a BB gun at me because he was angry with me. This happened when he was about 10. Maybe he knew it couldn't kill me, maybe he didn't, all I know is it scared the hell out of me and still makes me sad. Children and guns just do not mix unless they are supervised 100% of the time. They just don't have the sense to make decisions in heated moments IMO. I think any gun in a house should be locked in a gun safe, but then I would assume the guns are for hunting/collecting purposes since they are not easily accessible right?
I feel 100% ok with all the guns in my house with kids.
I grew up with the gun cabinet in MY BEDROOM because there was no where else to put it. It stayed locked at all times. Ammo was always locked up in a different area. My dad and grandfather taught me to shoot when I was 5 years old. Gun safety was highly stressed and it was made clear that even though we had toy guns (pop guns, water guns, etc...) there was a difference and we were to never play with or around them.
I now have that exact same gun cabinet in the den in my basement. My DD was taught gun safety and how how to shoot from 6 years old. She, too, knows it's not to be played with. I also have a 9mm at the top of my closet that is not locked. It is in it's safe so it is not just out in the open, but it isn't locked so we have access to it if we need it in a hurry. This LO will be taught the same way as DD was. In fact, FIL has already bought him a berretta shot gun... (MH grew up hunting and the tradition will apparently continue)
Take the safety classes. Go to a shooting range. Try different makes and models, just like test driving a car. Get comfortable, or as comfortable as you can be, with firearms before you and YH make any final decisions. Research different guns and safes. They are not for every one and I believe that any one who is afraid to use it will do more harm than good should the need arise.
*sigh* Well, at this point I might prefer a locked up gun to the hatchet DH keeps under the bed. Because we all know if we're getting robbed that a hatchet is going to be what saves us
In all seriousness though, with an infant I'd be fine (mostly) with it locked up, with a toddler/young child my mind would change, just because they're little escape artists and can get into things they should never be able to. And then with an older child who kind of "gets it" I'd go back to being more comfortable with it.
We have a zillion. OK I may be overstating, but MH is somewhat of a collector. Most are locked away in his office as they are not the sort for home protection, but he does keep one in his office drawer. I don't think it's loaded.
Our son will be taught gun safety from an early age and the one that we do have not locked away will not be readily accessible to him.
I think as long as the proper precautions are taken and the kids are taught safety and to respect the guns, there should be no problem. I'm not at all concerned personally.
As far as having them with children. We both believe it is all about education. I know lots of people that don't explain what guns are or what they are used for to their children. So God forbid, if your kids find them or get their hands on them (which can happen at a friends house, not just in your home) they think they are toys and don't realize the danger.
I mean, you would explain what scissors are or knives are, what they are used for and why they are dangerous, so why wouldn't you do the same with a firearm? Your kids need to know what to do or not to do if they come across guns in or outside your home.
And of course if you decide to have guns at home with kids, lock them up!! We have biometric safes that can only be opened with our fingerprints in different places of our home. So if I need one in a hurry I can get to one quickly,(our area has the same problem with people kicking in doors in the middle of the day and I'm home all day) but my future LO will never be able to get his hands on it by accident.
exactly... i'd like to be prepared in zombie apocalypse or government take over
yeah we also have a safe and would use a gun lock.
Growing up I got a "gun talk". Thats how I knew where it was. My Dad made it a point to explain it to me and how dangerous it was and to not touch.
I had no interest.
I just know of two stories personally of preteens playing with guns that ended up tragically. However, I am not quite sure how responsibe the parents of these kids were..
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I like this. Personally, I never plan to own a gun or have one in my home. No knocking any of you that do, it's just not for me.
OP, there are lots of things you can do to reinforce your doors. We had problems in the past with break ins in our building. In fact, both our next door neighbor and the unit below hers were broken in to. The police told us all that with this type of break in (kicking, crowbars) the weakness is often the doorframe. Here is what we used (sorry, not clicky):
This is more of a visual deterrent. Intruder sees it on the door, and hopefully decides to try a door that looks easier. It reinforces the door at its weakest point, where a crowbar is typically inserted. You can install it yourself, of have a locksmith do it:
https://www.jmlock.com/donjo-interlock-inswing-door-latch-protector.aspx
This also reinforces the doorframe. My H installed these himself:
https://www.asafehome.net/
Last thing, this goes under your doorknob while you're home, or you can use it while you're gone as long as you don't need to get back in that door. We had it on our back door.
https://www.amazon.com/Master-Lock-265DCCSEN-Dual-Function-Security/dp/B0002YUX8I
Do you have ADT or something like that? I'd rather spend my money on all of the above, plus a small fee per moth for a security system rather than a gun that would be so locked up and put away that it would be essentially useless in a break in.
Lastly, are you sure you or your H would even want to pull out a gun on anyone? You never know what kind of chaos that could unleash....
You all would be shocked and amazed at how prepared we are for the apocolypse! MH is a nut about it
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Honestly, I think you are really smart for doing so. I've tried to talk myself into doing so, but kind of feel like a loon when I get serious about it. But if a disaster strikes, and it would more than likely be a shortage of power sources or the sorts than a zombie invasion, you all will be the ones laughing then while the rest of us scramble!
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I have no problems with firearms in the house, so long as the obvious safety precautions are taken, and that you educate a child from very early on. My first memory of my paternal grandfather was going in to tell him good-night, and he was weighing bullets. Yes, that's right... weighing bullets. He makes his own ammunition, and 4, count 'em 4 HUGE safes full of guns... and has two rooms in his house dedicated to making/storing ammo and other things. He started teaching me about gun safety when I was about 5 years old; starting with the "you don't touch them and this is why." As I got older, I was taught more, like how to hold them, shoot them, clean them, etc.
While we live less than 5 minutes off-post from our military base, the area surrounding, in any direction, has a very high crime rate, and we've even been having problems with soldiers getting shot ON post by civilians. It's awful. Our neighborhood itself hasn't had any issues since we've been here, *knock on wood*, but when I am often home alone with our DS, it makes my husband extremely nervous. (For example, he's basically doing field training all month, and this is the only week they're allowing him to come home at night and on the weekend. After Sunday, I won't see him until the last friday in April.) So we bought a handgun in February when our taxes came in. It stays in a bio-safe right under my side of the bed so I have easy access to it, should I need it. DS has been told what it is called ("gun") and that it is NOT a toy, and he is NOT to touch it, and why. (It can hurt him, and we don't want that.) He hasn't even so much as touched the box whenever he's come into our room. He's gone with us to the range and watched each of us shoot from a distance, and he doesn't like the noise. So he stays away from it.
It's all about education, imo.
I agree with this too. I grew up in a family of cops, so there were gun in the house, I just didn't know where.
We thought about getting a gun only b/c my hubs travels a TON for work. But in all honesty, I don't think I'd react in time to unlock the gun from its case, load it and then properly shoot it. One thing my bro (who is also a cop) brought up, is that you're responsible for where ever that bullet ends up. If you live in a very populated area and have neighbors really close by, that bullet for go threw a window and do some unintended damage.
This is why didn't get a gun, but instead invested in a security system. It makes me feel much more safe.
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DH had brought this idea up a few years back when we lived in a very safe, yuppie suburb. I of course said no to that. Since last year though we've moved to an "okay" neighborhood to be close to family but a mile behind our new construction community feels sketchy. I've honestly been more paranoid about break ins in fact I dreamt about it the other night!
I still don't know if I want guns in the house but we're now looking into home security. Sigh. It would be like $50 a month though but it's peace of mind I can have and I can't really put a price on that.
We have them...but my husband is a state trooper so its necessary for him to bring a gun home with him. They are locked in a box in our nightstand and ALWAYS taken apart.
We had guns in our house growing up and my sister and I never had any interest in them that really I guess we forgot they were even there (my dad used to hunt and kept them in a gun case).
I think if you go through the necessary measures to make sure your kids can't get into them then its okay to have them.
I'm glad you brought this up because I hadn't even thought about it--and we have a gun in our house. My husband and I like to go out in the desert with friends and shoot things up. I've found it to be a great stress reliever and a fun day with friends. That being said, I have always kind of hated having the gun in our house. I know, kind of hypocritical of me as my husband likes to remind me. It is locked up in a gun safe now, and will have to be moved to a higher shelf in the closet for sure. I am adding this to our list of things we need to both be on the same page about, and am going to bring up the topic this weekend.
I agree with pp...it is all about education. I was afraid of having a gun in the house, or even touching one, until I went to a firearms class.
I wouldn't ever have a gun - with or without children. I just don't see the point to be honest. If I were going to be worried about being murdered in my house, I think I would also be afraid of getting in a car. I don't know the statistics but I'm guessing even in your area, the likelihood of death by vehicular accident is higher.
That being said if you and your husband want one, obviously just be sure to keep it locked up where kids can't ever get it or make sure they would never touch it. The last thing in the world you would want is to be inadvertently responsible for any accidents.
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I've seen it in the bookstores, and I really almost bought it but decided at the last minute it would probably be stupid and put it down. Is it a decent read?
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Guns scare the living heck out of me. I grew up abroad where gun ownership is non-existent to civilians. Nobody owned or used guns at all. I have actually never even seen one in person. I do not feel safe at all around guns. They scare me so much and it's probably because of how I was raised. Guns in my eyes are for police men, and army men...not for me or my families hands. But I know that many people here in the US know plenty about gun safety and are responsible gun owners. But it still terrifies me.
MH also never grew up around guns, both of us don't know how to use it, clean it or basically anything about proper gun ownership and we have no intention of learning or getting a gun ever, with or without kids.
I read that book about a year ago. It was surprisingly entertaining. Not the best book in the world but it was a fun quick read!
It was silly but fun. I think if you like Pride & Prejudice you would like it, but if you don't it really is the same story. Also I really liked The Other Boleyn Girl and Hunger Games but (don't all shoot me) I did not like Twilight. If that gives you a sense of whether or not I have similar taste to you.
I have no interest in owning a gun, and we live in a city where the crime rate is pretty high--not in our neighborhood or area per se, but nearby. We have a security system and strong doors/locks, and that's all we'll ever have. Neither DH nor I have ever been around guns, and even if we learned, I would be more afraid that our gun would end up being used against us.
I think gun safety is extremely important to teach children, whether they live in a gun-owning house or not. You never know what will happen at a friend's house or where they'll come across a firearm.