3 week old up for long stretches?

iamflamingo

my LO is almost 3 weeks old and he was up from 10-130 today. wide awake wanted nothing to do with sleeping at all. tried swaddling, cuddling, feeding, playing to tire him out, nope nothing. 

finally had our afternoon feeding and topped him off with some formula and he was out like a light. finally!

anyone else's LO do this? and is it normal? 

kapowski23

My LO will do that about once a day, sometimes twice. As long as she's not fussy or anything, I'm assuming it's okay. She usually goes right to sleep after her next feeding. : ) 

Hyfagal

I think it's normal. Ellie would suprise every now and then by staying up between feedings for a few hours.

juliane2004

I think that's too long. A 3 week old should be put down for a nap after 45min of being awake (from their last nap). Try putting her down awake and let her fall asleep on her own. DS would stay awake all day if I let him, but I dont.

See siggy links for posts I wrote on sleep.

kapowski23

juliane2004:

I think that's too long. A 3 week old should be put down for a nap after 45min of being awake (from their last nap). Try putting her down awake and let her fall asleep on her own. DS would stay awake all day if I let him, but I dont.

See siggy links for posts I wrote on sleep.

Every kid is different.. and what's optimal doesn't always work for everyone. 

Molluskwrangler

misskel22:

juliane2004:

I think that's too long. A 3 week old should be put down for a nap after 45min of being awake (from their last nap). Try putting her down awake and let her fall asleep on her own. DS would stay awake all day if I let him, but I dont.

See siggy links for posts I wrote on sleep.

Every kid is different.. and what's optimal doesn't always work for everyone. 

Thank you!  

pomrom

I would like to say this again... Every kid is different!

We go with the flow. Sometimes Xander wakes up to eat and basically goes right back to sleep while he is eating. Sometimes he wakes to eat and stays up all the way until his next feeding and sometimes he is awake for a little bit after he eats and falls alseep on his own.

I don't force him to sleep during the day because I would rather him sleep at night. You are setting patterns now for things later down the road and if you have them sleep all the time, you may have a night owl!

juliane2004

pomrom:

I would like to say this again... Every kid is different!

We go with the flow. Sometimes Xander wakes up to eat and basically goes right back to sleep while he is eating. Sometimes he wakes to eat and stays up all the way until his next feeding and sometimes he is awake for a little bit after he eats and falls alseep on his own.

I don't force him to sleep during the day because I would rather him sleep at night. You are setting patterns now for things later down the road and if you have them sleep all the time, you may have a night owl!

It's not a matter of "let them sleep all day long, and have them up all night". Instead, it's allowing them to have good restful naps in the daytime after an ideal amount of awake time so they aren't overtired, thus resulting in better overnight sleep.

We have been putting DS down awake to fall asleep on his own since Day 1. He has three or four 2.5-3 hr naps in the daytime, AND sleeps from about 10 pm until 6 am straight.

We did the same thing with DD (allowing her to fall asleep on her own in her crib) since she was 3 months old, and she also has great sleep habits.

Yes every child is different, absolutely! But, I think most kids do need MORE sleep than their parents think they do. Often, parents think their kid just stays awake because they don't want to sleep; where usually it's because they are too stimulated to fall asleep in their current environment, and need somewhere else (like a crib/bassinet) to have restful sleep.

In my opinion, if you let your child completely dictate when they will nap (i.e. "Sometimes he wakes to eat and stays up all the way until his next feeding and sometimes he is awake for a little bit after he eats and falls alseep on his own.") then you will eventually have a very overtired 6+ month old, since rarely did I see DD just fall asleep after a feeding. Instead, we had to create the opportunity for her to nap.

But it's up to you if you want to deal with an overtired, overstimulated baby. I personally would rather avoid the screaming.

Molluskwrangler

juliane2004:

pomrom:

I would like to say this again... Every kid is different!

We go with the flow. Sometimes Xander wakes up to eat and basically goes right back to sleep while he is eating. Sometimes he wakes to eat and stays up all the way until his next feeding and sometimes he is awake for a little bit after he eats and falls alseep on his own.

I don't force him to sleep during the day because I would rather him sleep at night. You are setting patterns now for things later down the road and if you have them sleep all the time, you may have a night owl!

It's not a matter of "let them sleep all day long, and have them up all night". Instead, it's allowing them to have good restful naps in the daytime after an ideal amount of awake time so they aren't overtired, thus resulting in better overnight sleep.

We have been putting DS down awake to fall asleep on his own since Day 1. He has three or four 2.5-3 hr naps in the daytime, AND sleeps from about 10 pm until 6 am straight.

We did the same thing with DD (allowing her to fall asleep on her own in her crib) since she was 3 months old, and she also has great sleep habits.

Yes every child is different, absolutely! But, I think most kids do need MORE sleep than their parents think they do. Often, parents think their kid just stays awake because they don't want to sleep; where usually it's because they are too stimulated to fall asleep in their current environment, and need somewhere else (like a crib/bassinet) to have restful sleep.

In my opinion, if you let your child completely dictate when they will nap (i.e. "Sometimes he wakes to eat and stays up all the way until his next feeding and sometimes he is awake for a little bit after he eats and falls alseep on his own.") then you will eventually have a very overtired 6+ month old, since rarely did I see DD just fall asleep after a feeding. Instead, we had to create the opportunity for her to nap.

But it's up to you if you want to deal with an overtired, overstimulated baby. I personally would rather avoid the screaming.

I'm just curious what makes you an authority on this topic?  Is this your line of work? 

 

taggiecb

I have three kids.  I have treated them all the same as far as eating/sleeping habits.  Two of my boys are/were excellent sleepers, and one would stay awake all day.  Lay him down, keep him up, rock him, drive him.  didnt matter what you did, he didn't sleep.  You can't just tell someone to make their child sleep more.  Sometimes it just doesn't happen. 

It's easy to say how great your methods are if you have only ever seen them work.

juliane2004

LovingBaz:

juliane2004:

pomrom:

I would like to say this again... Every kid is different!

We go with the flow. Sometimes Xander wakes up to eat and basically goes right back to sleep while he is eating. Sometimes he wakes to eat and stays up all the way until his next feeding and sometimes he is awake for a little bit after he eats and falls alseep on his own.

I don't force him to sleep during the day because I would rather him sleep at night. You are setting patterns now for things later down the road and if you have them sleep all the time, you may have a night owl!

It's not a matter of "let them sleep all day long, and have them up all night". Instead, it's allowing them to have good restful naps in the daytime after an ideal amount of awake time so they aren't overtired, thus resulting in better overnight sleep.

We have been putting DS down awake to fall asleep on his own since Day 1. He has three or four 2.5-3 hr naps in the daytime, AND sleeps from about 10 pm until 6 am straight.

We did the same thing with DD (allowing her to fall asleep on her own in her crib) since she was 3 months old, and she also has great sleep habits.

Yes every child is different, absolutely! But, I think most kids do need MORE sleep than their parents think they do. Often, parents think their kid just stays awake because they don't want to sleep; where usually it's because they are too stimulated to fall asleep in their current environment, and need somewhere else (like a crib/bassinet) to have restful sleep.

In my opinion, if you let your child completely dictate when they will nap (i.e. "Sometimes he wakes to eat and stays up all the way until his next feeding and sometimes he is awake for a little bit after he eats and falls alseep on his own.") then you will eventually have a very overtired 6+ month old, since rarely did I see DD just fall asleep after a feeding. Instead, we had to create the opportunity for her to nap.

But it's up to you if you want to deal with an overtired, overstimulated baby. I personally would rather avoid the screaming.

I'm just curious what makes you an authority on this topic?  Is this your line of work? 

 

I don't mean to sound like I'm an authority on the topic at all. I just know I had a hard time with DD and sleep when she was 0-3 months old. Once I learned all of this stuff when she was about 3 months old (specifically about ideal awake times) it was amazing how well DD slept.

You might say "She was 3 months, so it makes sense that her sleep improved over that of a newborn", but we decided to use the same techniques with DS from day 1 and it works just as well.

I keep posting the same information because people keep asking the same questions, and often it seems like their baby is just overtired, and a better look at how long the baby is awake for is a simple solution. No, it might not be THE solution, but it's a good one to start with.

Molluskwrangler

juliane2004:

LovingBaz:

juliane2004:

pomrom:

I would like to say this again... Every kid is different!

We go with the flow. Sometimes Xander wakes up to eat and basically goes right back to sleep while he is eating. Sometimes he wakes to eat and stays up all the way until his next feeding and sometimes he is awake for a little bit after he eats and falls alseep on his own.

I don't force him to sleep during the day because I would rather him sleep at night. You are setting patterns now for things later down the road and if you have them sleep all the time, you may have a night owl!

It's not a matter of "let them sleep all day long, and have them up all night". Instead, it's allowing them to have good restful naps in the daytime after an ideal amount of awake time so they aren't overtired, thus resulting in better overnight sleep.

We have been putting DS down awake to fall asleep on his own since Day 1. He has three or four 2.5-3 hr naps in the daytime, AND sleeps from about 10 pm until 6 am straight.

We did the same thing with DD (allowing her to fall asleep on her own in her crib) since she was 3 months old, and she also has great sleep habits.

Yes every child is different, absolutely! But, I think most kids do need MORE sleep than their parents think they do. Often, parents think their kid just stays awake because they don't want to sleep; where usually it's because they are too stimulated to fall asleep in their current environment, and need somewhere else (like a crib/bassinet) to have restful sleep.

In my opinion, if you let your child completely dictate when they will nap (i.e. "Sometimes he wakes to eat and stays up all the way until his next feeding and sometimes he is awake for a little bit after he eats and falls alseep on his own.") then you will eventually have a very overtired 6+ month old, since rarely did I see DD just fall asleep after a feeding. Instead, we had to create the opportunity for her to nap.

But it's up to you if you want to deal with an overtired, overstimulated baby. I personally would rather avoid the screaming.

I'm just curious what makes you an authority on this topic?  Is this your line of work? 

 

I don't mean to sound like I'm an authority on the topic at all. I just know I had a hard time with DD and sleep when she was 0-3 months old. Once I learned all of this stuff when she was about 3 months old (specifically about ideal awake times) it was amazing how well DD slept.

You might say "She was 3 months, so it makes sense that her sleep improved over that of a newborn", but we decided to use the same techniques with DS from day 1 and it works just as well.

I keep posting the same information because people keep asking the same questions, and often it seems like their baby is just overtired, and a better look at how long the baby is awake for is a simple solution. No, it might not be THE solution, but it's a good one to start with.

1ht

It sounds like you are regurgitating info from a book that worked for you.  I'm happy it worked in your case.  How does this 45 time work when a LO needs longer to eat?  I have to feed her in stages or she gets an upset stomach and screams. It takes at least an hour an 15 mins. Then she sleeps anywhere from 2-5 hours. 

There is zero difference in her surroundings when she goes right to sleep and when she stays up for hours. Putting her down while still fully awake only leads to hours of crying (even with comforting) and more overtired screaming.

All am I saying is that it comes off as if your way is THE way, even though you say it's not...statements like  But it's up to you if you want to deal with an overtired, overstimulated baby. I personally would rather avoid the screaming.

come off as condescending and as if your way it the way,  Every baby, family and situation is different.  While this may work for you and other families it won't work for all, and posting a PSA makes it sound like you think you are an authority and if they would only do A, B and C they too could have a text book baby.