This is so bizarre to me.

ChicNotGeek

My OB also performs abortions in her office.  And whenever I call her with a BFP, I have to clarify that I need to make an appointment for pre-natal care, not for an abortion.

It's just kind of feels weird that on my side, I'm already thrilled and excited, but when I call to make the appointment, it still has to be clarified.  I mean, it makes perfect sense since she also performs abortions, and I'm not her only pre-natal patient so it's not like the office staff knows me by voice recognition, but it still feels weird to me to have to clarify.

 

carrie3303

I can see how that would be really weird. Personally, it would make me really uncomfortable.

owens0410

That is very strange and it would make me uncomfortable too.

kraeaus

You are right, that is odd.  Not sure how I would feel about that. 

ChicNotGeek

With my 1st pregnancy, when I called about my BFP to make an appointment, I said, "I had a positive pregnancy test, and I need to make an appointment."  And the nurse's reply was, "For what?"

And I remember specifically, one time I went for a prenatal appointment, and I know that one of the women there was for abortion services, and this woman was clearly in her 2nd trimester.  

I mean, I don't agree with late-term abortions, but I know that they are legal and that some women want them and I don't want to make some political statement about my OB, but it's just weird to have such a dichotomy of emotions and intentions in one waiting room.

 

NikkiBenzo

I don't care who disagrees with me - I am going to say it:

I think late term abortions are HORRIBLE and should be illegal.

I am pro-choice as long as you make your choice in a timely manner (first 6 weeks). It DISGUSTS me that someone would get a 2-3 trimester abortion. You are literally chopping apart a tiny baby - AWFUL!

Flame away.... but that is how I feel since we are on the topic.

ChicNotGeek

NikkiBenzo:

I don't care who disagrees with me - I am going to say it:

I think late term abortions are HORRIBLE and should be illegal.

I am pro-choice as long as you make your choice in a timely manner (first 6 weeks). It DISGUSTS me that someone would get a 2-3 trimester abortion. You are literally chopping apart a tiny baby - AWFUL!

Flame away.... but that is how I feel since we are on the topic.

No flames from me.  I find the act despicable as well, but it is still legal, and for reasons that I can't understand, some women still seek them out.  It's not my place to judge them; the decision is between the woman, her doctor, and God.

NikkiBenzo

ChicNotGeek:

NikkiBenzo:

I don't care who disagrees with me - I am going to say it:

I think late term abortions are HORRIBLE and should be illegal.

I am pro-choice as long as you make your choice in a timely manner (first 6 weeks). It DISGUSTS me that someone would get a 2-3 trimester abortion. You are literally chopping apart a tiny baby - AWFUL!

Flame away.... but that is how I feel since we are on the topic.

No flames from me.  I find the act despicable as well, but it is still legal, and for reasons that I can't understand, some women still seek them out.  It's not my place to judge them; the decision is between the woman, her doctor, and God.

I try not to judge people either - I am one of the most open-minded people out there, but I think people who do this are terrible. I hate to say it - but there you have it.

MrsWarner

Just because a late term abortion was taking place does not mean the patient wanted the pregnancy to end that way. My sister had to have an abortion at 16 weeks due to loss of her amniotic fluid. It was not what she wanted, but necessary for her situation. You should not jump to conclusions about people's lives.

Corbin30

I am very pro-choice...it is really important to me. As a result, I specifically looked for a doctor who felt the same way. Not because I plan on terminating a pregnancy, but because I wanted to support a doctor who would be there for women during a very frightening, difficult time. So I guess it all depends on your point of view.

NikkiBenzo

MrsWarner:

Just because a late term abortion was taking place does not mean the patient wanted to pregnancy to end that way. My sister had to have an abortion at 16 weeks due to loss of her amniotic fluid. It was not what she wanted, but necessary for her situation. You should not jump to conclusions about people's lives.

That is obviously an extenuating circumstance and could not be avoided - and certainly wasn't elective. I am talking about elective procedures.

ChicNotGeek

I didn't know that my OB did them until after I became pregnant.  I did some google searching on her and saw that she gives 'expert testimony' in cases of late term abortions gone bad.  She said under oath that she's done 'thousands' of late term abortions.  The gravity of that statement still makes me still.

I reconciled it to myself this way, at least I know that she's prepared for any eventual outcome, and that she will be caring for me regardless of what happens during my pregnancy.

NikkiBenzo

ChicNotGeek:

I didn't know that my OB did them until after I became pregnant.  I did some google searching on her and saw that she gives 'expert testimony' in cases of late term abortions gone bad.  She said under oath that she's done 'thousands' of late term abortions.  The gravity of that statement still makes me still.

I reconciled it to myself this way, at least I know that she's prepared for any eventual outcome, and that she will be caring for me regardless of what happens during my pregnancy.

Here is where it gets muddy...  I don't judge your Dr for performing them because that is part of her job and some people may need them (see above post). I judge the people who are asking for them. If that makes any sense.

 

heather_09_15_07

NikkiBenzo:

ChicNotGeek:

I didn't know that my OB did them until after I became pregnant.  I did some google searching on her and saw that she gives 'expert testimony' in cases of late term abortions gone bad.  She said under oath that she's done 'thousands' of late term abortions.  The gravity of that statement still makes me still.

I reconciled it to myself this way, at least I know that she's prepared for any eventual outcome, and that she will be caring for me regardless of what happens during my pregnancy.

Here is where it gets muddy...  I don't judge your Dr for performing them because that is part of her job and some people may need them (see above post). I judge the people who are asking for them. If that makes any sense.

 

You never know why people may ask for them. If I saw someone in an office who was there for an abortion, I wouldn't judge because I don't know her story.

cantalopes24

NikkiBenzo:

ChicNotGeek:

I didn't know that my OB did them until after I became pregnant.  I did some google searching on her and saw that she gives 'expert testimony' in cases of late term abortions gone bad.  She said under oath that she's done 'thousands' of late term abortions.  The gravity of that statement still makes me still.

I reconciled it to myself this way, at least I know that she's prepared for any eventual outcome, and that she will be caring for me regardless of what happens during my pregnancy.

Here is where it gets muddy...  I don't judge your Dr for performing them because that is part of her job and some people may need them (see above post). I judge the people who are asking for them. If that makes any sense.

 

How can you judge someone for electively choosing to do it, but not the person that makes the service available? I personally don't judge someone, you have no idea what is going in their life that makes them feel like that is the choice they must make. I don't think someone generally sits around for 15 weeks trying to decide whether they want their baby for keepsies and then casually terminates the pregnancy.

jenkanne

NikkiBenzo:

I don't care who disagrees with me - I am going to say it:

I think late term abortions are HORRIBLE and should be illegal.

I am pro-choice as long as you make your choice in a timely manner (first 6 weeks). It DISGUSTS me that someone would get a 2-3 trimester abortion. You are literally chopping apart a tiny baby - AWFUL!

Flame away.... but that is how I feel since we are on the topic.

 I agree- "to a degree"... but you don't know what someone else is facing. For all you know that girl could have been carrying around a baby with no heartbeat.
Walk a mile in someones shoes before you pass judgement.

 

lvlichelle

My doctor's office is pro-life.. and that is all I am going to say about that.. If you are uncomfortable with your Dr maybe you should look around for a new one?

ChicNotGeek

WHOA.

I'm not judging anyone who is having one, nor am I uncomfortable with my doctor performing them.  My only, and original, comment was that it feels bizarre to have to clarify that I want to keep the pregnancy when I call with a BFP.

 

heather_09_15_07

ChicNotGeek:

WHOA.

I'm not judging anyone who is having one, nor am I uncomfortable with my doctor performing them.  My only, and original, comment was that it feels bizarre to have to clarify that I want to keep the pregnancy when I call with a BFP.

That would feel odd to me, too;)

NikkiBenzo

jenkanne:

NikkiBenzo:

I don't care who disagrees with me - I am going to say it:

I think late term abortions are HORRIBLE and should be illegal.

I am pro-choice as long as you make your choice in a timely manner (first 6 weeks). It DISGUSTS me that someone would get a 2-3 trimester abortion. You are literally chopping apart a tiny baby - AWFUL!

Flame away.... but that is how I feel since we are on the topic.

 I agree- "to a degree"... but you don't know what someone else is facing. For all you know that girl could have been carrying around a baby with no heartbeat.
Walk a mile in someones shoes before you pass judgement.

 

I agree - I would try not to judge unless I knew the circumstances. Actually, I would try not to judge at all, but I am quite strong willed and it is sometimes hard to not judge at all when you feel so strongly about something. But you are correct, I would try not to judge. On a side note - if the baby had no heartbeat then I wouldn't consider that a late term abortion - the baby already passed for natural reasons and is just being removed.

This is a gross thread and I am sorry that I started all this...

 

MissyOlivePants

jenkanne:

NikkiBenzo:

I don't care who disagrees with me - I am going to say it:

I think late term abortions are HORRIBLE and should be illegal.

I am pro-choice as long as you make your choice in a timely manner (first 6 weeks). It DISGUSTS me that someone would get a 2-3 trimester abortion. You are literally chopping apart a tiny baby - AWFUL!

Flame away.... but that is how I feel since we are on the topic.

 I agree- "to a degree"... but you don't know what someone else is facing. For all you know that girl could have been carrying around a baby with no heartbeat.
Walk a mile in someones shoes before you pass judgement.

 

If that is the case, then it is COMPLETELY different. No different then when I m/c and had to have a d&c (which is an abortion procedure).

xnbride

Gross. That would be a deal breaker for me. I would find a new OB.

armybride86

Lolz @ the flames coming my way, but I disagree with abortion all together.  Late or early.  I get that some people HAVE to terminate for medical reasons, and even though that makes me sad still, it has to be done.  BUT, IN MY EYES, if an abortion doesn't have to be done for a medical reason (this includes the baby's heart not beating, so forth), then I do not agree with it at all.  Not that I believe in god (KEEP THOSE FLAMES COMING!), but who is someone else to play "god" and decide rather someone should live or die.  They made the choice to open their legs, and what did they think an outcome of that would be?  Even the women who are raped, even though I feel for them, and it's a horrible thing, there is adoption.  TONS of people all over are looking to adopt!  Just my two cents, flame away, I don't care.

xnbride

armybride86:

Lolz @ the flames coming my way, but I disagree with abortion all together.  Late or early.  I get that some people HAVE to terminate for medical reasons, and even though that makes me sad still, it has to be done.  BUT, IN MY EYES, if an abortion doesn't have to be done for a medical reason (this includes the baby's heart not beating, so forth), then I do not agree with it at all.  Not that I believe in god (KEEP THOSE FLAMES COMING!), but who is someone else to play "god" and decide rather someone should live or die.  They made the choice to open their legs, and what did they think an outcome of that would be?  Even the women who are raped, even though I feel for them, and it's a horrible thing, there is adoption.  TONS of people all over are looking to adopt!  Just my two cents, flame away, I don't care.

It is interesting that you speak of rape because it is often used to justify abortions and yet it only accounts for .02% (although I imagine it would be hard to determine this statistic). I knew a women who actually chose to keep and raise her daughter who was the product of a rape and she said that it was very healing because she was able to turn a once horrible event into something so beautiful that she was able to treasure for a lifetime.

I don't know if I would have the same kind of strength, but I just thought it was an inspiring story. 

And on the flipside I also have a cousin who basically became infertile because of multiple abortions. She has one son, but I know she has since wanted more but was unable to.

It makes me mad that my MINOR daughter (figuratively speaking) could go out and get a procedure done that could basically affect her future fertility as well as potentially injure or even kill her and yet the school requires parental consent for her to take tylenol. There is something very wrong with that.

 

forensicmama

NikkiBenzo:

ChicNotGeek:

NikkiBenzo:

I don't care who disagrees with me - I am going to say it:

I think late term abortions are HORRIBLE and should be illegal.

I am pro-choice as long as you make your choice in a timely manner (first 6 weeks). It DISGUSTS me that someone would get a 2-3 trimester abortion. You are literally chopping apart a tiny baby - AWFUL!

Flame away.... but that is how I feel since we are on the topic.

No flames from me.  I find the act despicable as well, but it is still legal, and for reasons that I can't understand, some women still seek them out.  It's not my place to judge them; the decision is between the woman, her doctor, and God.

I try not to judge people either - I am one of the most open-minded people out there, but I think people who do this are terrible. I hate to say it - but there you have it.

That kind of thing makes me physically nauseous.

damabo80

MrsWarner:

Just because a late term abortion was taking place does not mean the patient wanted the pregnancy to end that way. You should not jump to conclusions about people's lives.

Word.

I actually thought 2nd/3rd trimester temrinations were illegal unless there was something severely wrong with the health of the child, or the health of the mother was at stake??

And, yeah, as a woman who terminated because I didn't want my child to suffer (he had a fatal condition), I didn't exactly do it because I wanted to. Look at my siggy. People terminate babies who were very much wanted. I did it because DH and I thought it was the most humane option for him. We love him so much and couldn't bear to see him struggle to breathe if he made it to term.

Thankfully, my OB does perform D&Cs/D&Es. I would much rather have him do it, who knows my history, who knows me, than a dr I never met. After the proceedure, while I was in recovery, he came out and spoke to my husband and mom. All three of them cried together. I would hardly put my OB in the category of a "terrible human being".

JaysonandKristin

I'm openly and completely in support of abortion at any time.  There are many, many reasons why I feel this way.  I understand that it comes across as disgusting and nauseating to some women to even think that there are doctors out there who perform and women out there who request late-term abortions, but I am appreciative that the right still exists.

Could I ever do it for any reason?  I have NO idea.  I've never been in those shoes.

Do I absolutely support a woman who chooses to do so?  Yes.

Will I continue to support legislation that makes it available?  Absolutely.

 

 

ShawMich

That is strange.  I would also feel uncomfortable.  I didn't know abortions were performed in a doctor's office.  Around here, they do them in hospitals (I think).

KAK ;->

MrsWarner:

Just because a late term abortion was taking place does not mean the patient wanted the pregnancy to end that way. My sister had to have an abortion at 16 weeks due to loss of her amniotic fluid. It was not what she wanted, but necessary for her situation. You should not jump to conclusions about people's lives.

Agreed.

Stephiehun

When I called my doctor to tell them I got a BFP, they asked if this was something I was happy about.  I thought that was a very nice way of putting it.

I support abortion rights completely and fully.  Being pregnant has only made me more pro-choice.  Late term abortions are rarely, if ever, elective. 

To the person who said that women should just have kept their legs closed - I'm glad you are in a situation where that is an option for you.

angelicalopez29

armybride86:

Lolz @ the flames coming my way, but I disagree with abortion all together.  Late or early.  I get that some people HAVE to terminate for medical reasons, and even though that makes me sad still, it has to be done.  BUT, IN MY EYES, if an abortion doesn't have to be done for a medical reason (this includes the baby's heart not beating, so forth), then I do not agree with it at all.  Not that I believe in god (KEEP THOSE FLAMES COMING!), but who is someone else to play "god" and decide rather someone should live or die.  They made the choice to open their legs, and what did they think an outcome of that would be?  Even the women who are raped, even though I feel for them, and it's a horrible thing, there is adoption.  TONS of people all over are looking to adopt!  Just my two cents, flame away, I don't care.

 

Yeah, I'm on your side, I don't really care if people disagree or flame me, I also believe that late or early, it is a nasty awful thing to do to decide weather or not to take the life away from your own flesh and blood. And you know what, I am glad women that perform various abortions by choice, end up being infertile, they deserve it, those lives conceived in their wombs, are human beings from conception, despite the form or level of maturity...  flame away, I don't care either.

Stephiehun

angelicalopez29:

armybride86:

Lolz @ the flames coming my way, but I disagree with abortion all together.  Late or early.  I get that some people HAVE to terminate for medical reasons, and even though that makes me sad still, it has to be done.  BUT, IN MY EYES, if an abortion doesn't have to be done for a medical reason (this includes the baby's heart not beating, so forth), then I do not agree with it at all.  Not that I believe in god (KEEP THOSE FLAMES COMING!), but who is someone else to play "god" and decide rather someone should live or die.  They made the choice to open their legs, and what did they think an outcome of that would be?  Even the women who are raped, even though I feel for them, and it's a horrible thing, there is adoption.  TONS of people all over are looking to adopt!  Just my two cents, flame away, I don't care.

 

Yeah, I'm on your side, I don't really care if people disagree or flame me, I also believe that late or early, it is a nasty awful thing to do to decide weather or not to take the life away from your own flesh and blood. And you know what, I am glad women that perform various abortions by choice, end up being infertile, they deserve it, those lives conceived in their wombs, are human beings from conception, despite the form or level of maturity...  flame away, I don't care either.

You both suck as people, and I sure hope you don't consider yourselves "Christian".  I'm pretty sure a prerequisite for that is so have some semblance of compassion for other.

mominatrix

angelicalopez29:

armybride86:

Lolz @ the flames coming my way, but I disagree with abortion all together.  Late or early.  I get that some people HAVE to terminate for medical reasons, and even though that makes me sad still, it has to be done.  BUT, IN MY EYES, if an abortion doesn't have to be done for a medical reason (this includes the baby's heart not beating, so forth), then I do not agree with it at all.  Not that I believe in god (KEEP THOSE FLAMES COMING!), but who is someone else to play "god" and decide rather someone should live or die.  They made the choice to open their legs, and what did they think an outcome of that would be?  Even the women who are raped, even though I feel for them, and it's a horrible thing, there is adoption.  TONS of people all over are looking to adopt!  Just my two cents, flame away, I don't care.

 

Yeah, I'm on your side, I don't really care if people disagree or flame me, I also believe that late or early, it is a nasty awful thing to do to decide weather or not to take the life away from your own flesh and blood. And you know what, I am glad women that perform various abortions by choice, end up being infertile, they deserve it, those lives conceived in their wombs, are human beings from conception, despite the form or level of maturity...  flame away, I don't care either.

I honestly hope you never have to make the choices that other women have had to make in their lives.

Right now, you're sounding pretty reprehensible.

 

Gummybear

I think it is a neccessary service and I applaud Dr's who are there for women in safe, clean, legal environments. The Dr. who removed my dead son from my body is one of the few in the area that perform late term D&E's, both for termination and for situations like mine. Women come from all over, esp. for medical terminations, to see her at my hospital, and it is a topic of hot debate because some people feel like women should never have the choice to terminate, even if they KNOW their baby will die or live momentarily in excruciating pain

What if your Dr. didn't offer the service? Women end up going to places like this -- agree with it or not it's legal, and it's a woman's choice. The more good Dr.'s there are like yours that make it easier for women to avoid the horrors like I posted, the better.

And I ditto the others, you should NEVER judge until you walked in someone's shoes.

SarahBethBR

angelicalopez29:

And you know what, I am glad women that perform various abortions by choice, end up being infertile, they deserve it

Wow.

You're really showing what a good person you are here.

dmogmo

Wow. I certainly hope none of you ever have to make such a difficult decision.

talltalltrees

NikkiBenzo:

I try not to judge people either - I am one of the most open-minded people out there, but I think people who do this are terrible. I hate to say it - but there you have it.

No, you're not.

talltalltrees

angelicalopez29:

I'm on your side, I don't really care if people disagree or flame me, I also believe that late or early, it is a nasty awful thing to do to decide weather or not to take the life away from your own flesh and blood. And you know what, I am glad women that perform various abortions by choice, end up being infertile, they deserve it, those lives conceived in their wombs, are human beings from conception, despite the form or level of maturity...  flame away, I don't care either.

And you are just a terrible person. That's pretty much all that can be said about this.

EveKing79

MrsWarner:

Just because a late term abortion was taking place does not mean the patient wanted the pregnancy to end that way. My sister had to have an abortion at 16 weeks due to loss of her amniotic fluid. It was not what she wanted, but necessary for her situation. You should not jump to conclusions about people's lives.

 

I agree with this- although I don't personally know anyone who has had a late-term abortion, my co-worker told me of a friend who had to abort at 20+ weeks (legal in NY) because the baby had some kind of a genetic disorder which would have caused it to be stillborn or die within hours after birth. I don't know the specifics, but my co-worker said this was a planned pregnancy. I would not judge someone who is faced with such a horrible, unthinkable decision. While I'm sure there is a minority of irresponsible people who wait until the last possible moment to act, I'm sure there are many more who have medical circumstances that force the decision.

ablou

I think that it's fantastic that your doctor has such an excellent continuity of care in her office.  If I had to make the choice to terminate, I would feel so much more comfortable having my doctor do it in the office I'm used to, than having to go to a freestanding clinic or a different doctor that wasn't mine.

And for all of the "open-minded" "non-judgmental" ladies on here, deciding to have an abortion isn't like deciding on whether you want amaretto or vanilla in your coffee.  It's often the hardest decision a woman will make, and will happen on one of the worst days of her life.  But, it's a LEGAL decision, and it's hers to make, and it's none of your damn business.

I think that what a lot of you don't realize is that all the anti-choice agenda is going to do is kill women.  There will be women piercing their cervices with dirty coat hangers, crochet hooks, and knitting needles.  There will be women paying people to perform surgery on them in hotel rooms and kitchens, causing them to die from infection and blood loss. And that's not even including deliberate suicide. This country will be littered with dead women who were so desperate to not be pregnant that they had no choice but to die trying. 

 

MrsDL

angelicalopez29:

armybride86:

Lolz @ the flames coming my way, but I disagree with abortion all together.  Late or early.  I get that some people HAVE to terminate for medical reasons, and even though that makes me sad still, it has to be done.  BUT, IN MY EYES, if an abortion doesn't have to be done for a medical reason (this includes the baby's heart not beating, so forth), then I do not agree with it at all.  Not that I believe in god (KEEP THOSE FLAMES COMING!), but who is someone else to play "god" and decide rather someone should live or die.  They made the choice to open their legs, and what did they think an outcome of that would be?  Even the women who are raped, even though I feel for them, and it's a horrible thing, there is adoption.  TONS of people all over are looking to adopt!  Just my two cents, flame away, I don't care.

 

Yeah, I'm on your side, I don't really care if people disagree or flame me, I also believe that late or early, it is a nasty awful thing to do to decide weather or not to take the life away from your own flesh and blood. And you know what, I am glad women that perform various abortions by choice, end up being infertile, they deserve it, those lives conceived in their wombs, are human beings from conception, despite the form or level of maturity...  flame away, I don't care either.

You wish infertility on women you don't know whose circumstances you know nothing about - well that's mighty Christian of you. Do you wish miscarriages, stillbirths, and Trisomy 13/18/21 on other women whose choices you don't like? You're a real gem.