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Thought 4 under 4 was bad?

Try 6 under 5. Indifferent

 

When my sister had her twins another lady (in her 20's) there said she had her second set of twins. Her oldest is 5, has a set of 3.5 year old twins, a one year old little boy and now newborn twins. Yikes. My mom said all she was worried about leaving and having a cigerette. My Mom's words to her: "I hope you are done having children".

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Re: Thought 4 under 4 was bad?

  • How else is she going to get that welfare check if she stops having kids?

    That's crazy.  I mean, it would be crazy for anyone, but if she's more worried about her nicotine addiction than anything else that makes me sad.  And also makes me question whether or not she stopped smoking throughout her pregnancy.

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  • 6 under 18 is too many for me ;-)
  • imageBFab11:

    How else is she going to get that welfare check if she stops having kids?

    That's crazy.  I mean, it would be crazy for anyone, but if she's more worried about her nicotine addiction than anything else that makes me sad.  And also makes me question whether or not she stopped smoking throughout her pregnancy.

    Exactly. I was going to say that, but I didn't want to get flamed or be too judgmental, even though I was in my head haha

     

    And I hope she stopped smoking when she was pregnant, but it wouldn't surprise me if she didn't.  

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  • My sister-in-law cranked out 5 kids in 5 years.  She had a girl and then kept trying for another one until she got her.
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    How else is she going to get that welfare check if she stops having kids?

    Hmm   Because everyone cranking out kids is on welfare.  Awesome broad generalization.

  • My aunt had 6 in 6 years (all boys, too). Married. Not on welfare. They just wanted a big family. They both (she and her husband) have a ton of siblings.

     

    They support their kids and are great parents.

     

    Now, neither of them smoke....

  • My aunt would have loved to have her 4 children that close together.  Unfortunately she had 2 miscarriages between DD1 and DD2, and another one between DD2 and DD3.

    Oh yeah, and she isn't on welfare-not in the least.  Her husband has his own law firm and she has a Masters in Public Health.  They support their children just fine and don't smoke.

    Way to generalize.

  • I don't even smoke, but thinking about having 6 kids under 5 years old makes me want a cigarette too.
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    imageBFab11:

    How else is she going to get that welfare check if she stops having kids?

    Hmm   Because everyone cranking out kids is on welfare.  Awesome broad generalization.

    Of course not everyone with lots of kids is on welfare. It was the smoking thing that led me to that; if she was more worried about having a cigarette than her kids (whether it be her older ones or the brand new ones), that says to me something is wrong. Which is another point I made, saying that 6 kids that young is crazy for anyone (but more power to anyone who has them), but when the mom has other "priorities," it makes it sad. Way to narrow in on a single part of my post, and the joking part at that. (on phone, no formatting)
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    Way to narrow in on a single part of my post, and the joking part at that. (on phone, no formatting)

    Yeah, "joking" that people must be on welfare because they have a lot of kids and smoke.

    ha. ha.  Sorry, I forgot to laugh.

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    Of course not everyone with lots of kids is on welfare. It was the smoking thing that led me to that; if she was more worried about having a cigarette than her kids (whether it be her older ones or the brand new ones), that says to me something is wrong. Which is another point I made, saying that 6 kids that young is crazy for anyone (but more power to anyone who has them), but when the mom has other "priorities," it makes it sad. Way to narrow in on a single part of my post, and the joking part at that. (on phone, no formatting)

    I want to make sure I understand.

    Women on welfare are terrible people who, if given the choice between a day without a smoke and the untimely death of her children by blood thristy crocodiles, would choose the latter. Also, anyone who dares enjoy a little nicotine fix every once in a while probably hates children and requires immediate sterilization.

    People reproduce, some of them also happen to smoke. It's legal FFS. I can't believe your Mother had the balls to say that to a stranger. 

  • For what it's worth, I would gladly have 6 kids under 5.  I would have 3 kids with on on the way now if it hadn't been for 2 miscarriages.  I don't want to be pregnant after 35, which is in 3 years, so we're going to crank 'em out between now and then.  Then we'll probably foster, because we are not on welfare and are in a situation where we could do that.

    PS:  The smoking thing is zero indication of a person's ability to love their child.  My cousin and sister both quit for the duration of their pregnancies but were desperate to have a smoke once their children were born.  They are also 2 of the best mothers I know.  And neither of them are on welfare either.

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    imageBFab11:

    Of course not everyone with lots of kids is on welfare. It was the smoking thing that led me to that; if she was more worried about having a cigarette than her kids (whether it be her older ones or the brand new ones), that says to me something is wrong. Which is another point I made, saying that 6 kids that young is crazy for anyone (but more power to anyone who has them), but when the mom has other "priorities," it makes it sad. Way to narrow in on a single part of my post, and the joking part at that. (on phone, no formatting)

    I want to make sure I understand.

    Women on welfare are terrible people who, if given the choice between a day without a smoke and the untimely death of her children by blood thristy crocodiles, would choose the latter. Also, anyone who dares enjoy a little nicotine fix every once in a while probably hates children and requires immediate sterilization.

    Ok, you got me.  I hate poor people. and smoking ones even worse.  Excuse me while I go sit on my silk couch, watch my solid gold tv, and eat bonbons while using my servant as a footrest.  ::eyeroll::

    I'm glad you never judge anyone (me being the exception, of course).  Good for you! 

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    imageBFab11:

    How else is she going to get that welfare check if she stops having kids?

    Hmm   Because everyone cranking out kids is on welfare.  Awesome broad generalization.

    Of course not everyone with lots of kids is on welfare. It was the smoking thing that led me to that; if she was more worried about having a cigarette than her kids (whether it be her older ones or the brand new ones), that says to me something is wrong. Which is another point I made, saying that 6 kids that young is crazy for anyone (but more power to anyone who has them), but when the mom has other "priorities," it makes it sad. Way to narrow in on a single part of my post, and the joking part at that. (on phone, no formatting)

    Yeah, cuz everyone who smokes is on welfare too?  And how does the fact that she was craving a cigarette = caring more about cigarettes than her kids?  And as a mom, I have a lot of priorities aside from my kids.  They don't necessarily get placed before my kids, but having kids does not singularly define me.

    Honestly, if we're going to live in a society where someone else gets to decide who is worthy of having kids and how many, I'll take cigarette smoking, minding-her-own-damn-business mommy over judgmental-small-minded-sanctimommy any day.  We don't need people passing that kind of ignorance on to their offspring.   

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    Ok, you got me.  I hate poor people. and smoking ones even worse.  Excuse me while I go sit on my silk couch, watch my solid gold tv, and eat bonbons while using my servant as a footrest.  ::eyeroll::

    I'm glad you never judge anyone (me being the exception, of course).  Good for you! 

    I judge plenty. I judge you for hiding your personal hang-ups with smokers with some sort of weird "save the children" sentiment. But I don't judge another person's financial status because that's classist and just odd.

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    imageBFab11:

    How else is she going to get that welfare check if she stops having kids?

    That's crazy.  I mean, it would be crazy for anyone, but if she's more worried about her nicotine addiction than anything else that makes me sad.  And also makes me question whether or not she stopped smoking throughout her pregnancy.

    Exactly. I was going to say that, but I didn't want to get flamed or be too judgmental, even though I was in my head haha

     

    And I hope she stopped smoking when she was pregnant, but it wouldn't surprise me if she didn't.  

    Zip it!

    I have no words.

  • OK I misread this at first. I thought it was your SISTER who had 6 kids and was on welfare. But it was actually a total stranger?

     

    Sorry, but making snide comments to a total stranger about her reproductive decisions is way, way trashier than smoking. Your mom appears to have no manners at all.

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  • imageBFab11:

    How else is she going to get that welfare check if she stops having kids?

    That's crazy.  I mean, it would be crazy for anyone, but if she's more worried about her nicotine addiction than anything else that makes me sad.  And also makes me question whether or not she stopped smoking throughout her pregnancy.

    Unless they live in one of the 20 States which have the family cap which states you benefits are not increased( and are sometimes reduced) when you have more children while receiving benefits.  

    "HOW many US citizens and ranchers have been decapitated in Arizona by roving bands of paperless aliens, and how will a requirement that I have papers on me make that not happen?"courtesy of SueSue
  • Yeah I have to chime in too. My mother quit smoking the moment she got pregnant. It wasn't even an option really, the thought of smoking made her want to ralph, but she'd have quit regardless. But the very second that she was no longer pregnant, all she could think about were cigarettes. She didn't start back up entirely but for awhile after she had me she definitely smoked. I don't think that makes her a bad mother at all. In fact, she was a wonderful mother.

    Also, you say she was 20 (which I took as a way of saying she started having all these kids really young, which shouldn't matter anyway or have any bearing on her being or not being on welfare) but how in the world do you know that for sure? I turn thirty in a few months but am frequently mistaken for being in my very early 20's. My husband is 34 and is mistaken for being as young as 18 All. The. Time. As in people at his new post office station were taking bets as to whether he was old enough to even work there. We've been treated somewhat gruffly when we go out with our kids because of our perceived age and were treated rudly by some of the staff at our hospital when I delivered Noel as well. Assuming someone's age and judging them for that can really bite you in the butt. Not to mention having children young does not automatically make you a bad parent. I know plenty of older parents who are terrible and plenty of younger ones who are awesome.

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    I turn thirty in a few months but am frequently mistaken for being in my very early 20's.

    Ditto. I get carded all the time....in EUROPE!

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