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late period and BFN *frustrated* anyone else have a late BFP?

Hi,

 I believe I am 18-19 DPO, based on saliva ovulation testing.  I am having some mild, unusual symptoms (nausea, heartburn).  I spotted a little brown around 10-12 DPO (possibly implantation bleeding?).  No AF in sight....grrrrrrr.  Anyway, I haven't seen even the faintest bit of a line on any HPT and all digi's are negative.  I tested today with first morning urine -- BFN.  Did anyone have this problem?  I'm trying to be patient but it is so difficult!  If I'm not pregnant then I'm ready to start a new cycle so I can try again....UGGHH.

Sorry if this is a newbie question.  Thanks for your patience :)

Me: 32  H: 34
DS #1: 8/10/11,  DS #2: 10/13/14
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Re: late period and BFN *frustrated* anyone else have a late BFP?

  • Well, I'd never heard of the saliva ovulation tests before, so I had to google them. I used the "pee in a cup" kind, plus I charted my temps.

    The thing about ovulation predictors is that they predict that you might be about to ovulate within a certain window. Just because you get a positive, it doesn't mean you actually did ovulate, only that you had a hormone surge that suggested you could.

    You may have ovulated a few days later than you think you did. So, I'd test once every few days (or once a week) until you either get your period or get a +HPT.

    Good luck.

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  • I'd recommend  you go see a doctor. I once had an ovarian cyst and it gave me preg-like symptoms including no AF.
  • I am supposedly 15 days past ovulation, and I have still gotten no sign of AF and I have had very sore boobs for about a week now; and its strange with this one but my belly button is really tender and I know that most pregnant women don't even get that til about 6 months pregnant. I am waiting til it has been about a week and I haven't started to go get a blood test. I know that the wait is hard and trust me I don't like buying exensive tests and they turn out neg. either. So, try to do what I do; keep yourself busy, put it on the back burner because your head will mess with you, and wait til AF gets here. If she does then do the OPK and try again. I know that sounds bad coming from a 19 yr. old and I've only tried for 2 months now but shoot at least you get another chance I have to wait 2 months for DF to get back home to try again.  Best of luck to you. :) 
  • If you're getting negatives, you're most likely not pregnant (or you could have ovulated later than you think and it's too early to test). I'm going to guess that if you're only using saliva tests and not taking your temperature, you didn't ovulate when you think you did. Saliva tests detect a surge in estrogen, which can happen just before you ovulate, but it doesn't guarantee that you will ovulate then. The only way to know you've actually ovulated is through temping or ultrasound. If you're interested, the book, "Taking Charge of Your Fertility" is really helpful. Best of luck to you!

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  • I used OPKs, but didn't temp as I kept forgetting last cycle. I tested at 12 dpo and got a BFN, but felt like I was getting my period. So, I waited and tested again at 19dpo for a BFP.

    Maybe you ovulated later or didn't ovulate. Maybe wait it out a little bit and then call your Gyno. If you have any cramping or other symptoms with a BFN, I would call right away.

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  • I got my bfp on day 50. I tested 2 weeks before and it was neg than the next week ...still negative.

    I thought for sure I was going to need af kick started. But, I tested one more time...and God blessed me with a +!!

    Dont give up :-)

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    I got my bfp on day 50. I tested 2 weeks before and it was neg than the next week ...still negative.

    I thought for sure I was going to need af kick started. But, I tested one more time...and God blessed me with a +!!

    Dont give up :-)

    Were you charting or using OPK's or just a long cycle?

    The saliva microscopes claim 98% accuracy in predicting ovulation (not just estrogen surge) and I have been using it throughout my cycle.  I can pinpoint 2 days of full ferning and a couple days "transitional" partial furning before and after, and then nothing since then.  All the research I've done says anovulatory cycles usually show ferning multiple times throughout the cycle.  I don't want to totally rule out not ovulating but I think it is unlikely that I didn't ovulate.  That is why I'm so confused Confused  Usually long cycles still have 14-16 day LP's right??

    Me: 32  H: 34
    DS #1: 8/10/11,  DS #2: 10/13/14
    TTC #3 since October 2017


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    imageJessynlove:

    I got my bfp on day 50. I tested 2 weeks before and it was neg than the next week ...still negative.

    I thought for sure I was going to need af kick started. But, I tested one more time...and God blessed me with a +!!

    Dont give up :-)

    Were you charting or using OPK's or just a long cycle?

    The saliva microscopes claim 98% accuracy in predicting ovulation (not just estrogen surge) and I have been using it throughout my cycle.  I can pinpoint 2 days of full ferning and a couple days "transitional" partial furning before and after, and then nothing since then.  All the research I've done says anovulatory cycles usually show ferning multiple times throughout the cycle.  I don't want to totally rule out not ovulating but I think it is unlikely that I didn't ovulate.  That is why I'm so confused Confused  Usually long cycles still have 14-16 day LP's right??

    Of course it is going to claim that, have you ever seen a good marketing campaign that said the product was accurate 50% of the time?  I used a saliva scope for 4 cycles.  2 of those cycles the scope was off by 5 whole days.  They are not always accurate and there is huge room for user error.  Even a drink of water hours beforehand can skew the results.


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    imagelmorris014:
    imageJessynlove:

    I got my bfp on day 50. I tested 2 weeks before and it was neg than the next week ...still negative.

    I thought for sure I was going to need af kick started. But, I tested one more time...and God blessed me with a +!!

    Dont give up :-)

    Were you charting or using OPK's or just a long cycle?

    The saliva microscopes claim 98% accuracy in predicting ovulation (not just estrogen surge) and I have been using it throughout my cycle.  I can pinpoint 2 days of full ferning and a couple days "transitional" partial furning before and after, and then nothing since then.  All the research I've done says anovulatory cycles usually show ferning multiple times throughout the cycle.  I don't want to totally rule out not ovulating but I think it is unlikely that I didn't ovulate.  That is why I'm so confused Confused  Usually long cycles still have 14-16 day LP's right??

    Of course it is going to claim that, have you ever seen a good marketing campaign that said the product was accurate 50% of the time?  I used a saliva scope for 4 cycles.  2 of those cycles the scope was off by 5 whole days.  They are not always accurate and there is huge room for user error.  Even a drink of water hours beforehand can skew the results.

    Actually, most "early result" pregnancy tests have a table included in the directions that shows the accuracy statistics starting at 5 or 6 days before your missed period.  If you read these, day 5 is usually around 50%.  I would imagine that similar to nutrition facts on food the FDA has requirements the drug companies have to follow when making such claims.  I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'm trying not to lose all my faith in over the counter ovulation prediction tools :)

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    DS #1: 8/10/11,  DS #2: 10/13/14
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  • I thought I was AF was 9 days late on my 'normal' 30 day cycle when I finally decided I should start temping just to get in the habit of it for the next cycle.  Turns out I hadn't even ovulated yet and didn't until CD 42.  I tested once every 3-4 days until CD 56 when I got a BFP.

    If you are still getting BFN, you are not pregnant or you ovulated later than you thought. Temping is invaluable for putting your mind at ease and making the TTC process a little less stressful.

    Keep testing once a week until you reach CD 60 and then call your doc to get AF started. Good Luck!

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  • the ovulation testing only tests for the surge before you ovulate, it doesn't guarantee that you will or that ovulation didn't get delayed for any reason.  The only way to know for sure you did ovulate and when is by tracking your temperature in the morning or by ultrasound or having blood drawn at 7dpo to test progesterone.  I would suggest going to fertility friend website (you can get there by clicking the ticker in my siggy) and tracking your ovulation tests and temps there.  It's a very helpful website and you can learn a lot and you can use a free version or a paid version if you want.
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  • imagelmorris014:
    imageJessynlove:

    I got my bfp on day 50. I tested 2 weeks before and it was neg than the next week ...still negative.

    I thought for sure I was going to need af kick started. But, I tested one more time...and God blessed me with a +!!

    Dont give up :-)

    Were you charting or using OPK's or just a long cycle?

    The saliva microscopes claim 98% accuracy in predicting ovulation (not just estrogen surge) and I have been using it throughout my cycle.  I can pinpoint 2 days of full ferning and a couple days "transitional" partial furning before and after, and then nothing since then.  All the research I've done says anovulatory cycles usually show ferning multiple times throughout the cycle.  I don't want to totally rule out not ovulating but I think it is unlikely that I didn't ovulate.  That is why I'm so confused Confused  Usually long cycles still have 14-16 day LP's right??

    I don't know about the saliva test. I could never get a pos. and i'm pregnant so it's not so accurate. I also used it with opk and BBT. I would try using these if af shows. Good luck!

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    The thing about ovulation predictors is that they predict that you might be about to ovulate within a certain window. Just because you get a positive, it doesn't mean you actually did ovulate, only that you had a hormone surge that suggested you could.

    This.  Once I got a +OPK and then AF was very late and BFN BFN BFN.  Turns out I never ovulated and had a big (painful) ovarian cyst.

    I had to take some provera to bring on AF, but then I got pg next cycle.


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  • I tested at 14dpo and got a BFN, tested at 17 dpo and got a BFP. I normally had a 15 day LP.
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