Infertility

General Ignorance

astounds me.

Nobody at work knows about my IF. Just my luck - at lunch the girls at work got on the topic of IF, because someone's "sister's - cousin's - ex-best friend" can't get pregnant. A few of the ladies starting talking about how the biggest reason for IF is sexually transmitted diseases and one even commented that "...infertility would be much less heard of if women didn't sleep around in their teens and early twenties. They wouldn't have STD's and they'd have kids instead."

I choked on my drink and almost spit it on this chick. I wanted SO BADLY to put them in their place, but instead I bit my tongue and kept quiet. Imo, it seemed like she was putting a negative connotation on the majority of infertility. Geez, people, seriously?

TTC 7+ years - 3 failed IUI's; not going the IVF route; stopped treatment December 2013.

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Re: General Ignorance

  • Wow! I give you major kudos for sitting through that! I'm not sure I would have been able to hold my tongue. Ignorance regarding IF really astounds me. I'm sorry you had to listen to such BS!

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  • Seriously?? I don't know if I would have been able to keep quite after that. That's the stupidest thing I have ever heard! Sorry you had to put up with that today :(
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  • I correct people all the time.  A friend who honestly was trying to help said to me that I should fill out adoption paperwork because she heard that when people just stop trying and get pregnant.  

    I couldn't let that go and told her so because first people should not fill out adoption paperwork unless they are seriously considering it and 2. that statistically this just isn't true.  

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  • WOW!  I give u credit for not punching someone.

    Thank them for clearing it up for me, that my MFI was cause by my slutty twenties.Super Angry

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  • I'm pretty sure that if I were there, I would have exploded.  That is so completely ignorant.  IF is so misunderstood.  It is no wonder most people with IF (myself included) aren't completely open about it.  I have told quite a few people about our issue (family, friends and a few coworkers), but I have been afraid of being stereotyped or having people second guess our choice to do IVF. 

    I am so sorry you had to sit through that.  ((HUGS))

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    IVF #6:  (New RE):  Long Antagonist November 2014 (transferred two 8 cell grade 1 embryos and froze one blast) = BFN

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  • There is just no way I could have kept quiet about that! 
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    Thank them for clearing it up for me, that my MFI was cause by my slutty twenties.Super Angry

     LOL  -- so true!

     And, I agree that being stereotyped is a huge fear. My family knows about my IF, but after what I sat through today....I'll probably end up exploding on the people at work in the future. With that, they'll make the general assumption that "all fertiles are b!tches" (which in my case, may or may not be true). Ha!

    TTC 7+ years - 3 failed IUI's; not going the IVF route; stopped treatment December 2013.

    Became licensed for Foster Care: March 2011
    Adoption Finalized: December 2013


    LISTEN TO THE MUSN'TS CHILD, LISTEN TO THE DON'TS.
    LISTEN TO THE SHOULDN'TS, THE IMPOSSIBLES, THE WONT'S.
    LISTEN TO THE NEVER HAVES, THEN LISTEN CLOSE TO ME.
    ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN, CHILD, ANYTHING CAN BE.
    -Shel Silverstein



  • I know you're not comfortable with sharing, however, that just made me irate and I'm not sitting there. I would have snapped and put them in their place, and whether or not I openly admitted my own struggles I would have at least made 4 more (or whatever number) ladies think twice before they ever thought that again.
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     And, I agree that being stereotyped is a huge fear. My family knows about my IF, but after what I sat through today....I'll probably end up exploding on the people at work in the future. With that, they'll make the general assumption that "all fertiles are b!tches" (which in my case, may or may not be true). Ha!

    Well in my case, I already known as a biitch so I'm good there. Stick out tongue

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  • WTF!!! That's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard...I agree with the PP's...I would've had a hard time keeping my mouth shut...you have a lot of will-power! I would've said something sarcastic too...like "Oh really? Guess I shouldn't have gang-banged the football team in college. I can't believe I've had STD's ALL THIS TIME without ANY symptoms...which STD do you think I have? Gonorrhea? Herpes? Syphilis?"
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    IUIs 1-3 BFN, lap Dec. 2010, IUIs 4-6 BFN
    IVF w/ICSI #1 - ER 2/8: 24R 19M 9F ET 2/13 2-5 day blasts (no frosties) = BFP - b/g twins!
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  • Wow! Some people just don't have a clue. I would not have been able to keep my mouth shut!
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  • I would not have been able to keep my mouth shut. I would have had to say something. People are a-holes when they talk about stuff they have no freakin' clue about. Grrrr.
  • It sounds like not just ignorance, but total insensitivity!  After I confided in a few friends that we started TTC almost two years ago, everyone has been so quietly supportive by not asking about our success so far.  I secretly hate, however, when family members (who do not know that we were even TTC) keep asking when we are going to have a baby.  I feel like at a certain point, people should be sensitive to the fact that someone may be experiencing IF and just keep their mouths shut!  I always did the same with my coworkers before TTC, can't others do the same?!   I mean, you would never sit around a table and speculate about other health problems! 

    I would have freaked!  DH is my high school sweetheart, so promiscuity is hardly the issue!  So sorry you had to put up with that!

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  • grr, people are so stupid sometimes! i had someone try to tell me how IVF worked and was arguing with me when I corrected them and said no that's not the process, xxxx is how it works, and they were strongly telling me I was wrong. 

    If someone had not interupted us I was about two seconds from having a complete freakout at them.  

    Get a clue people, don't talk about sh@t you know NOTHING about.

    I'm sorry you had to sit thru that.

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  • OMG!  Boo!
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  • Wow what a ridiculous comment.  So how does that explain why I have IF?  DH is the only person I've been with so that theory doesn't pan out.... maybe I picked up an STD from a dirty toilet.  I'm sorry you had to sit through that and good for you for not punching someone in the face.
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  • Wow. That is terrible.  I'm not sure I could have kept my mouth shut.  I can't believe people think that way. 
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