Cool site with nutritious, kid-friendly recipes...

Married2MrWright

since we've been talking about solids a lot lately and what to feed the kiddos, I thought some of you might like:

https://weelicious.com/

www.wholesomebabyfood.com is also good.

parrotgirl

Hey Lori- thanks for the links!

I was wondering about your excess lipase...how did you know you had excess lipase in your milk? Does scalding the BM help? I think I have excess lipase too so I was glad that you brought it up

Married2MrWright

parrotgirl:

Hey Lori- thanks for the links!

I was wondering about your excess lipase...how did you know you had excess lipase in your milk? Does scalding the BM help? I think I have excess lipase too so I was glad that you brought it up

Hi...I figured out the excess lipase thing the weekend before I returned to the office.  That Friday, we decided to do a "trial run" and I "commuted" to our bedroom for 8 hours while my mom and DH took care of Libby.  It was awful.  She screamed and cried for over an hour when they tried to feed her.  She had taken bottles of my BM prior, but it was always freshly pumped and given to her.  No refrigeration, etc.  So on this day, we decided to do it as it would be done when I was at work and they reheated some refrigerated milk that I had pumped the day before...

Finally, I couldn't stand to hear her cry and I nursed her.  Then I smelled the milk in the bottle my mom was trying to feed her.  It smelled like soap!  I thought, perhaps, that somehow it hadn't been rinsed enough in the cleaning process.  I checked the other bottles in the fridge.  All the same.  I pumped again and checked the milk.  Not soapy smelling.  Put it in the fridge.   The next day, I prepared a bottle to try her again and again it was very soap smelling.  Then, I decided to open the frozen milk I had stored and it was all nasty smelling.  Really horrible.  With one day to go before I was back to work I started Googling like crazy...I came across "excess lipase" for every search ("soapy milk" "bad smelling frozen breast milk").  So then I Googled excess lipase and found tips at Kellymom and LLLI on how you can scald your milk to kill off the lipase before you store it.  I have been doing that ever since!

After I pump, I put the milk into a corning ware pot (Visions...they don't make them anymore, but I bought a small pot with a spout for $10 on eBay...you can use regular pots, but I didn't want to worry about metal or non-stick and my BM) and heat the milk to 170 degrees (I use a digital thermometer that I got from Target).  Pour the milk into clean bottles and cool rapidly (they go into the thermal pack with ice that came with my pump and then immediately into the fridge).  I take this home and transfer the treated milk into glass bottles for the fridge.  I was pumping about 24 oz. more/week than Libby was taking so it would go in the freezer.  Now I have huge stash and she doesn't like frozen milk, so we're either going to dump it or try to mix some of it into her meals.

There's a huge thread on LLLI's forums about excess lipase and all of the creative ways mamas handle it.  One, I remember, is a postal worker, so she uses a little bottle warmer that plugs into the lighter socket to heat her milk to hot enough to scald (you have to "trick" the bottle warmer since they're not meant to get liquids that hot) since she's in her truck all day.  Others have access to burners during the day at work (we have a full kitchen) and do what I do. 

If you have any questions, let me know.  I'd be happy to share links, etc. that I have gathered on the issue.  What a PITA!  Pumping is hard enough but to add this additional 8 minute routine to it is a real downer.  I've started not pumping at work if there is still milk in our fridge at home.  It hasn't seemed to negatively affect my supply or my breasts and that way I am not freezing MORE milk that she won't take.

mrs.winter

Thanks Lori...this is so werid. I was looking for a quick homemade tomato sauce last night and I found the one on weelicious. I had never heard of this site before yesterday and then I see your post today...good stuff!

redshoegirl

Thanks! I hadn't seen weelicious before. *bookmarked*

parrotgirl

Married2MrWright:

parrotgirl:

Hey Lori- thanks for the links!

I was wondering about your excess lipase...how did you know you had excess lipase in your milk? Does scalding the BM help? I think I have excess lipase too so I was glad that you brought it up

Hi...I figured out the excess lipase thing the weekend before I returned to the office.  That Friday, we decided to do a "trial run" and I "commuted" to our bedroom for 8 hours while my mom and DH took care of Libby.  It was awful.  She screamed and cried for over an hour when they tried to feed her.  She had taken bottles of my BM prior, but it was always freshly pumped and given to her.  No refrigeration, etc.  So on this day, we decided to do it as it would be done when I was at work and they reheated some refrigerated milk that I had pumped the day before...

Finally, I couldn't stand to hear her cry and I nursed her.  Then I smelled the milk in the bottle my mom was trying to feed her.  It smelled like soap!  I thought, perhaps, that somehow it hadn't been rinsed enough in the cleaning process.  I checked the other bottles in the fridge.  All the same.  I pumped again and checked the milk.  Not soapy smelling.  Put it in the fridge.   The next day, I prepared a bottle to try her again and again it was very soap smelling.  Then, I decided to open the frozen milk I had stored and it was all nasty smelling.  Really horrible.  With one day to go before I was back to work I started Googling like crazy...I came across "excess lipase" for every search ("soapy milk" "bad smelling frozen breast milk").  So then I Googled excess lipase and found tips at Kellymom and LLLI on how you can scald your milk to kill off the lipase before you store it.  I have been doing that ever since!

After I pump, I put the milk into a corning ware pot (Visions...they don't make them anymore, but I bought a small pot with a spout for $10 on eBay...you can use regular pots, but I didn't want to worry about metal or non-stick and my BM) and heat the milk to 170 degrees (I use a digital thermometer that I got from Target).  Pour the milk into clean bottles and cool rapidly (they go into the thermal pack with ice that came with my pump and then immediately into the fridge).  I take this home and transfer the treated milk into glass bottles for the fridge.  I was pumping about 24 oz. more/week than Libby was taking so it would go in the freezer.  Now I have huge stash and she doesn't like frozen milk, so we're either going to dump it or try to mix some of it into her meals.

There's a huge thread on LLLI's forums about excess lipase and all of the creative ways mamas handle it.  One, I remember, is a postal worker, so she uses a little bottle warmer that plugs into the lighter socket to heat her milk to hot enough to scald (you have to "trick" the bottle warmer since they're not meant to get liquids that hot) since she's in her truck all day.  Others have access to burners during the day at work (we have a full kitchen) and do what I do. 

If you have any questions, let me know.  I'd be happy to share links, etc. that I have gathered on the issue.  What a PITA!  Pumping is hard enough but to add this additional 8 minute routine to it is a real downer.  I've started not pumping at work if there is still milk in our fridge at home.  It hasn't seemed to negatively affect my supply or my breasts and that way I am not freezing MORE milk that she won't take.

Wow! Thanks Lori!! I am heading out for work right now but I will send you a message later about this. Thanks again for the information!!