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Q on sick days for salaried employees...

SO I work at a bank and am salaried.  We get 1/2 sick day per month, so 6 a year.  I have 2 kids.  I had to take off the other day because one of my kids was sick.  When i got back to bank the next day, my manager told me i was at negative 3 days for the year.  and thats inlcuding whatever i have coming to me for the rest of year which ends in dec...  He told me i will probably have to use my last personal day becuase i have no sick days left.  I'm worried that they will take my vacation next.  But, what does a Mom do when i have two kids and then I usually get sick too after theyve had whatever they had..  what does your employer do when you use all your sick days and still have to take off, because well kids do get sick??  My mom helps when she can and my husband and i normally try to take turns staying home wiht them when they are sick. 
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  • Any place that I have ever worked you can't take sick days for your kids. If your kids are sick then you either use personal or vacation time. And once you run out of that, you get docked a days pay.
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  • At my work if you have to take a day and you don't have PTO then you take it unpaid.  We just have one bank of PTO - sick, vacation, holiday etc. 
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  • i work for a family owned bank and we have to take our vacation a week at a time.  i wish they bunched it all together like you both said...would be so much better.
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  • When I was working, the company would dock your pay if you ran out of vacation/sick.  We had one big bank of days, not specified into sick or vacation or personal. BUT, we also had comp time.  So any hours over 40 went towards more time off. I don't know that anyone other than one person (who's child is sick A LOT and she's a single mom) that ever went over their comp/days off and had pay docked. 

     

  • Do you have the option of leave without pay?  I don't have sick, personal, or holidays per se.  Everything comes out of my PTO that has accrued.  (Plus, any "overtime" I get goes into a pool called switch time that can be used instead of the PTO.)  If an employee in my organization doesn't have the PTO remaining, they have the option to take the day without pay.
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  • A lot of places now have all days lumped in together, which I think is more fair.  If your a young family, you may get 3-4 weeks sick and vacation all together, and use 2 weeks for sick, but if your young and single, you can travel, and if your older, you can go on longer trips.  This is what DH has and what I had at my job.
  • my pto all separate.  I get a vacation bank, that I pick my weeks at the start of the year (which sucks, we have to take a full week at a time..unless written permission by the manager), holiday time off (hospital, we're open every day ... so I can use my holiday time anytime, they just like for us to divide it over the course of the year... so I have plenty left, they just gave me a holiday off on the next schedule b/c they don't want people waiting until the end of the year, if you don't use the holiday time, you lose it), personal time which I believe is intended for if you need to schedule days off for family stuff, and then sick time... I just call in sick. I don't tell them who or what or why... I just call say I'm using a sick day, done. if it's on the weekend, I need a note.  we're not supposed to use sick time for our kids, but I've gotten notes from the pedi stating I was in the office on that day and have been compensated with a sick day. then there are bereavement and marriage and adoption days...  the only days that roll over are vacation and sick (personal becomes sick days)... so I just try to stock up on sick days.  try not to use them unless I absolutely need to.  if I ran out of sick days,  I wouldn't get paid.  
  • When I was working, salaried employees didn't get any sick/personal days at all.  It was just not even mentioned in the employee handbook....so basically if you were sick, you stayed home, and if it was felt you were "abusing" that unwritten policy then it would be addressed in your performance review.  I actually worked in benefits, and it was a large Fortune 500 company, so it was a little weird that we had no policy at all regarding sick or personal time.  You were expected to get your job done.  I didn't have kids when I worked there, but I did miscarry and spent a whole week out of the office (started bleeding on a Sunday night and had a doctors appointment the next day, then scheduled D&C, ect and ended up missing 5 days).  It wasn't a big deal, I still spent time on conference calls and answering emails when I could, but I just did what I needed to regarding staying home.  I had a coworker with two kids and her husband was military, so she definitely worked from home on days her kids were sick, and it wasn't a big deal.

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  • I work for the fed gov't. When we call out "sick" for any reason -- I'm sick, the kids are sick, I have an appt., etc., we choose which kind of leave we want to use.

    I earn 4hrs of sick leave and 6 hrs of annual (vacation) leave evey pay period (so I earn 8sick and 12 annual every month).

    I like to use my annual leave first because I accrue it faster and when I retire I get my sick days paid back. We also don't have any kind of maternity leave or short term disability, so I need to bank my sick days just in case.

    If I use all of my annual leave and all of my sick leave I can ASK for leave without pay, but it doesn't have to be granted. If my manager denies my request for leave without pay and I choose not to come to work I am considered AWOL and will lose my job.

    I know it's tough. DH and I alternate who has to take off so that one of us isn't always using our leave.

  • we just have paid time off and we can use it any way we want. I haven't worked somewhere that had sick days since my first job 10+ years ago.  If I need to stay home I take PTO (vacation day). 
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  • imageUGAbride:

    When I was working, salaried employees didn't get any sick/personal days at all.  It was just not even mentioned in the employee handbook....so basically if you were sick, you stayed home, and if it was felt you were "abusing" that unwritten policy then it would be addressed in your performance review.  I actually worked in benefits, and it was a large Fortune 500 company, so it was a little weird that we had no policy at all regarding sick or personal time.  You were expected to get your job done. 

    This--except I'm still working and don't work in benefits.  Stick out tongue

    Our other benefits sort of suck and we get relatively few vacation days...when I was single and didn't have kids it sucked because I didn't abuse the sick days except *maybe* once or twice.  Now that I have kids, it is SO great.  I'm expected to get my work done--sometimes that means logging in after H gets home (if I've been home with a sick kid) or after the kids go to bed.  It all evens out.

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  • When I was working if we used all our sick time we would get wrote up, 3 write ups and you're fired. My boss had no compassion for sick kids and had no idea what it was like so she was always bitchy when I took off to SAH with DS1.
  • imageJonathansMommy:
    SO I work at a bank and am salaried.  We get 1/2 sick day per month, so 6 a year.  I have 2 kids.  I had to take off the other day because one of my kids was sick.  When i got back to bank the next day, my manager told me i was at negative 3 days for the year.  and thats inlcuding whatever i have coming to me for the rest of year which ends in dec...  He told me i will probably have to use my last personal day becuase i have no sick days left.  I'm worried that they will take my vacation next.  But, what does a Mom do when i have two kids and then I usually get sick too after theyve had whatever they had..  what does your employer do when you use all your sick days and still have to take off, because well kids do get sick??  My mom helps when she can and my husband and i normally try to take turns staying home wiht them when they are sick. 

    Well, what do you expect them to do? Where I work, it's perfectly fine to take a sick day if your kid or spouse is sick (and that was also the case at my last two jobs). But a day off is a day off -- you need to take the time from somewhere, vacation or not. It sounds like you're just expecting them to give you additional sick days because you have kids. It doesn't work like that.

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  • imagesmccabe9:
    At my work if you have to take a day and you don't have PTO then you take it unpaid.  We just have one bank of PTO - sick, vacation, holiday etc. 

    This how DH works too. He only has one bank of PTO there is no seperate sick and vacation, if he runs out (he has six week all together) they would start docking his pay.

  • if i use all my time up, i will just go in the negative.  Now if i leave the company and am still in the negative, then they will take that from my pay.
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