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My UO re: diapers.

I do not understand the widespread use of disposable diapers.  It perplexes me for a number of reasons:

1. Health.  Disposable diapers contain lots of toxic chemicals.  Two of the most concerning are dioxin (linked to cancer, birth defects, etc) & sodium polyacrylate (linked to TSS in tampons), but there are also many more.  Sposies have also been linked to asthma.  Not to mention rashes & chemical burns.

2.  Cost.  It is SO much cheaper in the long run to use cloth diapers.  Even if it raises your water & energy bills a little it's still cheaper.

3.  Environment.  Estimates indicate over 25 billion disposable diapers are consumed annually & these end up in landfills.  Gross.  Our babies have to live in this world for the rest of their lives.

I am not sure if people chose disposable diapers due to lack of knowledge/information or due to laziness, but either way it's sad to me.  It really is not inconvenient at all to use cloth in my experience; it boils down to an extra load of laundry every 2-3 days.  But even if it was... my baby's health is worth it to me.

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  • imageMWoodside:

    I do not understand the widespread use of disposable diapers.  It perplexes me for a number of reasons:

    1. Health.  Disposable diapers contain lots of toxic chemicals.  Two of the most concerning are dioxin (linked to cancer, birth defects, etc) & sodium polyacrylate (linked to TSS in tampons), but there are also many more.  Sposies have also been linked to asthma.  Not to mention rashes & chemical burns.

    2.  Cost.  It is SO much cheaper in the long run to use cloth diapers.  Even if it raises your water & energy bills a little it's still cheaper.

    3.  Environment.  Estimates indicate over 25 billion disposable diapers are consumed annually & these end up in landfills.  Gross.  Our babies have to live in this world for the rest of their lives.

    I am not sure if people chose disposable diapers due to lack of knowledge/information or due to laziness, but either way it's sad to me.  It really is not inconvenient at all to use cloth in my experience; it boils down to an extra load of laundry every 2-3 days.  But even if it was... my baby's health is worth it to me.

    I had no issue with your informative post until this sentence.  *eye roll*

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  • imagecarney09:
    imageMWoodside:

    I do not understand the widespread use of disposable diapers.  It perplexes me for a number of reasons:

    1. Health.  Disposable diapers contain lots of toxic chemicals.  Two of the most concerning are dioxin (linked to cancer, birth defects, etc) & sodium polyacrylate (linked to TSS in tampons), but there are also many more.  Sposies have also been linked to asthma.  Not to mention rashes & chemical burns.

    2.  Cost.  It is SO much cheaper in the long run to use cloth diapers.  Even if it raises your water & energy bills a little it's still cheaper.

    3.  Environment.  Estimates indicate over 25 billion disposable diapers are consumed annually & these end up in landfills.  Gross.  Our babies have to live in this world for the rest of their lives.

    I am not sure if people chose disposable diapers due to lack of knowledge/information or due to laziness, but either way it's sad to me.  It really is not inconvenient at all to use cloth in my experience; it boils down to an extra load of laundry every 2-3 days.  But even if it was... my baby's health is worth it to me.

    I had no issue with your informative post until this sentence.  *eye roll*

    Seriously.  I put those poisonous diapers on my baby because I could care less about her health.

  • We use disposables because they are simply easier. Yes, call me lazy, but I don't like the idea of washing diapers. I prefer to just throw them away. 


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  • imagecarney09:
    imageMWoodside:

    I do not understand the widespread use of disposable diapers.  It perplexes me for a number of reasons:

    1. Health.  Disposable diapers contain lots of toxic chemicals.  Two of the most concerning are dioxin (linked to cancer, birth defects, etc) & sodium polyacrylate (linked to TSS in tampons), but there are also many more.  Sposies have also been linked to asthma.  Not to mention rashes & chemical burns.

    2.  Cost.  It is SO much cheaper in the long run to use cloth diapers.  Even if it raises your water & energy bills a little it's still cheaper.

    3.  Environment.  Estimates indicate over 25 billion disposable diapers are consumed annually & these end up in landfills.  Gross.  Our babies have to live in this world for the rest of their lives.

    I am not sure if people chose disposable diapers due to lack of knowledge/information or due to laziness, but either way it's sad to me.  It really is not inconvenient at all to use cloth in my experience; it boils down to an extra load of laundry every 2-3 days.  But even if it was... my baby's health is worth it to me.

    I had no issue with your informative post until this sentence.  *eye roll*

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  • imagecarney09:
    imageMWoodside:

    I do not understand the widespread use of disposable diapers.  It perplexes me for a number of reasons:

    1. Health.  Disposable diapers contain lots of toxic chemicals.  Two of the most concerning are dioxin (linked to cancer, birth defects, etc) & sodium polyacrylate (linked to TSS in tampons), but there are also many more.  Sposies have also been linked to asthma.  Not to mention rashes & chemical burns.

    2.  Cost.  It is SO much cheaper in the long run to use cloth diapers.  Even if it raises your water & energy bills a little it's still cheaper.

    3.  Environment.  Estimates indicate over 25 billion disposable diapers are consumed annually & these end up in landfills.  Gross.  Our babies have to live in this world for the rest of their lives.

    I am not sure if people chose disposable diapers due to lack of knowledge/information or due to laziness, but either way it's sad to me.  It really is not inconvenient at all to use cloth in my experience; it boils down to an extra load of laundry every 2-3 days.  But even if it was... my baby's health is worth it to me.

    I had no issue with your informative post until this sentence.  *eye roll*

    For me, it's true though.  Even before I used them when I thought they would be super inconvenient I made a conscious choice to use cloth anyway primarily for the health reasons.  Roll your eyes if you want. 

    DD1 born 5/24/10.

    Missed M/C at 14 wks Feb 2012.

    DD2 born 5/14/13.

    Missed M/C at 9 wks July 2015.

    Expecting someone new 4/17/17.
  • imageMWoodside:
    imagecarney09:
    imageMWoodside:

    I do not understand the widespread use of disposable diapers.  It perplexes me for a number of reasons:

    1. Health.  Disposable diapers contain lots of toxic chemicals.  Two of the most concerning are dioxin (linked to cancer, birth defects, etc) & sodium polyacrylate (linked to TSS in tampons), but there are also many more.  Sposies have also been linked to asthma.  Not to mention rashes & chemical burns.

    2.  Cost.  It is SO much cheaper in the long run to use cloth diapers.  Even if it raises your water & energy bills a little it's still cheaper.

    3.  Environment.  Estimates indicate over 25 billion disposable diapers are consumed annually & these end up in landfills.  Gross.  Our babies have to live in this world for the rest of their lives.

    I am not sure if people chose disposable diapers due to lack of knowledge/information or due to laziness, but either way it's sad to me.  It really is not inconvenient at all to use cloth in my experience; it boils down to an extra load of laundry every 2-3 days.  But even if it was... my baby's health is worth it to me.

    I had no issue with your informative post until this sentence.  *eye roll*

    For me, it's true though.  Even before I used them when I thought they would be super inconvenient I made a conscious choice to use cloth anyway primarily for the health reasons.  Roll your eyes if you want. 

    Well, congrats on the superior parenting.

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    imageMWoodside:
    imagecarney09:
    imageMWoodside:

    I do not understand the widespread use of disposable diapers.  It perplexes me for a number of reasons:

    1. Health.  Disposable diapers contain lots of toxic chemicals.  Two of the most concerning are dioxin (linked to cancer, birth defects, etc) & sodium polyacrylate (linked to TSS in tampons), but there are also many more.  Sposies have also been linked to asthma.  Not to mention rashes & chemical burns.

    2.  Cost.  It is SO much cheaper in the long run to use cloth diapers.  Even if it raises your water & energy bills a little it's still cheaper.

    3.  Environment.  Estimates indicate over 25 billion disposable diapers are consumed annually & these end up in landfills.  Gross.  Our babies have to live in this world for the rest of their lives.

    I am not sure if people chose disposable diapers due to lack of knowledge/information or due to laziness, but either way it's sad to me.  It really is not inconvenient at all to use cloth in my experience; it boils down to an extra load of laundry every 2-3 days.  But even if it was... my baby's health is worth it to me.

    I had no issue with your informative post until this sentence.  *eye roll*

    For me, it's true though.  Even before I used them when I thought they would be super inconvenient I made a conscious choice to use cloth anyway primarily for the health reasons.  Roll your eyes if you want. 

    Well, congrats on the superior parenting.

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  • First, although it may be cheaper in the long run, I couldn't have afforded the up front cost. Second, although I did have an interest I know that my DH would not be willing. Third, I AM LAZY...I hate doing the laundry I already have to do and I definitely don't want to add anymore to that.

    Between DD trying to give up her 1 and only nap and DS only wanting to nap on me, I'm lucky if I can even get a load of laundry done.

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  • I'm not worried about LO's health at all.  I use disposables just to f*ck with him. 

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  • I live in an apartment with shared laundry that I have to go into another building for.  I'm lucky if I can do 1-2 loads a week.  Sometimes CD'ing is just not logistically possible.  Way to make people feel guilty :(
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  • Let's not forget that a lot of us have our babies in DC and a lot of DCPs won't deal with cloth.  But I admit it, I'm lazy.
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  • I fully admitt I don't cloth diapers because I'm lazy. 1-2 more loads on top of the 6 a week I do already is too much.
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  • This debate can go on and on just like the BF vs. FF, Working Moms vs. Stay at Home Moms. Everyone has there reasons for doing what they do for their child. 

    I use posies because I could not afford $300+ dollars at one time to get cloth. And I hate doing laundry as it is so adding even 1 more load would piss me off.  

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  • You are definitely allowed to have you opinions. But you don't have to express the thought that you are a better parent than those of us who use disposable diapers. I couldn't get DH on board and couldn't afford the up front cost. You might not want to come across so snarky and uppity next time!

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  • imageDreamsicle23:
    I live in an apartment with shared laundry that I have to go into another building for.  I'm lucky if I can do 1-2 loads a week.  Sometimes CD'ing is just not logistically possible.  Way to make people feel guilty :(
    this exactly.
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  • imageAlltwistedup:

    You are definitely allowed to have you opinions. But you don't have to express the thought that you are a better parent than those of us who use disposable diapers. I couldn't get DH on board and couldn't afford the up front cost. You might not want to come across so snarky and uppity next time!

    Where did I say I was better?  Is anything about my post false?  I feel like the defensiveness & taking it personally (not only you, but others) makes me think people are insecure with their decision to use disposables.

    My DH was not on board at first at all.  I asked him to be open minded & go to a free, local cloth diapering class with me & review some of the research I'd done.  Once he understood how toxic they are he agreed to try it, but not wash them.  I said I was fine with that & would do all the washing.  Once DD was born he realized how easy they are & how the washing is seriously no big deal at all.  The tmining of the DryMax chemical burn issue further swayed him.  Now he is 100% on board.

    DD1 born 5/24/10.

    Missed M/C at 14 wks Feb 2012.

    DD2 born 5/14/13.

    Missed M/C at 9 wks July 2015.

    Expecting someone new 4/17/17.
  • imageAlltwistedup:

    You are definitely allowed to have you opinions. But you don't have to express the thought that you are a better parent than those of us who use disposable diapers. I couldn't get DH on board and couldn't afford the up front cost. You might not want to come across so snarky and uppity next time!

    Where did I say I was better?  Is anything about my post false?  I feel like the defensiveness & taking it personally (not only you, but others) makes me think people are insecure with their decision to use disposables.

    My DH was not on board at first at all.  I asked him to be open minded & go to a free, local cloth diapering class with me & review some of the research I'd done.  Once he understood how toxic they are he agreed to try it, but not wash them.  I said I was fine with that & would do all the washing.  Once DD was born he realized how easy they are & how the washing is seriously no big deal at all.  The tmining of the DryMax chemical burn issue further swayed him.  Now he is 100% on board.

    DD1 born 5/24/10.

    Missed M/C at 14 wks Feb 2012.

    DD2 born 5/14/13.

    Missed M/C at 9 wks July 2015.

    Expecting someone new 4/17/17.
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    DD1 born 5/24/10.

    Missed M/C at 14 wks Feb 2012.

    DD2 born 5/14/13.

    Missed M/C at 9 wks July 2015.

    Expecting someone new 4/17/17.
  • imageMWoodside:
    imageAlltwistedup:

    You are definitely allowed to have you opinions. But you don't have to express the thought that you are a better parent than those of us who use disposable diapers. I couldn't get DH on board and couldn't afford the up front cost. You might not want to come across so snarky and uppity next time!

    Where did I say I was better?  Is anything about my post false?  I feel like the defensiveness & taking it personally (not only you, but others) makes me think people are insecure with their decision to use disposables.

    My DH was not on board at first at all.  I asked him to be open minded & go to a free, local cloth diapering class with me & review some of the research I'd done.  Once he understood how toxic they are he agreed to try it, but not wash them.  I said I was fine with that & would do all the washing.  Once DD was born he realized how easy they are & how the washing is seriously no big deal at all.  The tmining of the DryMax chemical burn issue further swayed him.  Now he is 100% on board.

    "my baby's health is worth it to me."

    => Our babies' health isn't worth it to us.

  • imageMWoodside:

    I do not understand the widespread use of disposable diapers.  It perplexes me for a number of reasons:

    1. Health.  Disposable diapers contain lots of toxic chemicals.  Two of the most concerning are dioxin (linked to cancer, birth defects, etc) & sodium polyacrylate (linked to TSS in tampons), but there are also many more.  Sposies have also been linked to asthma.  Not to mention rashes & chemical burns.

    2.  Cost.  It is SO much cheaper in the long run to use cloth diapers.  Even if it raises your water & energy bills a little it's still cheaper.

    3.  Environment.  Estimates indicate over 25 billion disposable diapers are consumed annually & these end up in landfills.  Gross.  Our babies have to live in this world for the rest of their lives.

    I am not sure if people chose disposable diapers due to lack of knowledge/information or due to laziness, but either way it's sad to me.  It really is not inconvenient at all to use cloth in my experience; it boils down to an extra load of laundry every 2-3 days.  But even if it was... my baby's health is worth it to me.

    Do you have a link? Everything I have read states "could" "possibly" "may" but nothing concrete.

    And ditto on all pp statements. DC doesn't allow cloth. We used cloth until LO started DC. Plus I don't have the time on the weekends to wash and clean the diapers. I want to enjoy my limited time with LO.

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    stupid board

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  • You probably don't mean to, but the end of your post comes off a bit "holier than thou."  I use both disposable and cloth and feel totally comfortable in that decision.  I don't feel like a bad mom for putting my son in disposable diapers, nor do I feel like I love him any more when I put cd's on him. 

    You can disagree with the use of disposables, but you shouldn't make other moms feel like they're bad mothers for not CDing. 

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  • imageMWoodside:
    imageAlltwistedup:

    You are definitely allowed to have you opinions. But you don't have to express the thought that you are a better parent than those of us who use disposable diapers. I couldn't get DH on board and couldn't afford the up front cost. You might not want to come across so snarky and uppity next time!

    Where did I say I was better?  Is anything about my post false?  I feel like the defensiveness & taking it personally (not only you, but others) makes me think people are insecure with their decision to use disposables.

    I love when a super mom gets on their holier-than-thou soap box about their amazing parenting choice (co-sleeping, BFing, CDing, etc) and then the minute the flames start, they start with the "do you feel guilty about your parenting choices?" bullshiiit.  Ahhh....no.  Some of us just don't like Judgey McJudgersons.  Simple as that.

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  • imageMWoodside:
    imageAlltwistedup:

    You are definitely allowed to have you opinions. But you don't have to express the thought that you are a better parent than those of us who use disposable diapers. I couldn't get DH on board and couldn't afford the up front cost. You might not want to come across so snarky and uppity next time!

    Where did I say I was better?  Is anything about my post false?  I feel like the defensiveness & taking it personally (not only you, but others) makes me think people are insecure with their decision to use disposables.

    I love when a super mom gets on their holier-than-thou soap box about their amazing parenting choice (co-sleeping, BFing, CDing, etc) and then the minute the flames start, they start with the "do you feel guilty about your parenting choices?" bullshiiit.  Ahhh....no.  Some of us just don't like Judgey McJudgersons.  Simple as that.

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  • I would probably use them if I was a stay at home mom, but I'm not, so it is more convenient to use them and I do not expect my MIL or my mom to deal with dirty cloth diapers while I am at work.
  • Hell, I agree with you. But, you catch more flies with honey.

    I will say that we've reached a whole new level of laziness as a society when putting cloth into a box with soap and pressing a button, then taking the cloth out and putting it in another box and pressing a button = too much work.

    When I was a kid I used to help my great-grandmother do laundry the old school way, with a hand crank wringer. That is work. Laundry as we know it now is not work.

  • I imagine those folks who have to go to the laundromat feel its a hassle.  There are people who cant b/c of DC.  I don't b/c I have a sh*tton of laundry already.  There are plenty of reasons not to. 

    To imply that we don't care about the health of our children is a real b*tch move to be honest.

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  • I cloth diaper because

    A. I'm a stay at home mom

    B. It's cheaper

    C.I really like pinning on diapers

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  • imagelpstl:

    I will say that we've reached a whole new level of laziness as a society when putting cloth into a box with soap and pressing a button, then taking the cloth out and putting it in another box and pressing a button = too much work.

    Seriously?

  • imagecarney09:
    imageMWoodside:

    I do not understand the widespread use of disposable diapers.  It perplexes me for a number of reasons:

    1. Health.  Disposable diapers contain lots of toxic chemicals.  Two of the most concerning are dioxin (linked to cancer, birth defects, etc) & sodium polyacrylate (linked to TSS in tampons), but there are also many more.  Sposies have also been linked to asthma.  Not to mention rashes & chemical burns.

    2.  Cost.  It is SO much cheaper in the long run to use cloth diapers.  Even if it raises your water & energy bills a little it's still cheaper.

    3.  Environment.  Estimates indicate over 25 billion disposable diapers are consumed annually & these end up in landfills.  Gross.  Our babies have to live in this world for the rest of their lives.

    I am not sure if people chose disposable diapers due to lack of knowledge/information or due to laziness, but either way it's sad to me.  It really is not inconvenient at all to use cloth in my experience; it boils down to an extra load of laundry every 2-3 days.  But even if it was... my baby's health is worth it to me.

    I had no issue with your informative post until this sentence.  *eye roll*

    Agreed.  Inflammatory statements like this just negate the entire post, in my eyes.  


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  • imagelpstl:

    Hell, I agree with you. But, you catch more flies with honey.

    I will say that we've reached a whole new level of laziness as a society when putting cloth into a box with soap and pressing a button, then taking the cloth out and putting it in another box and pressing a button = too much work.

    When I was a kid I used to help my great-grandmother do laundry the old school way, with a hand crank wringer. That is work. Laundry as we know it now is not work.

    Yes

    My thoughts exactly about the laziness. 

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    imagecarney09:
    imageMWoodside:

    I do not understand the widespread use of disposable diapers.  It perplexes me for a number of reasons:

    1. Health.  Disposable diapers contain lots of toxic chemicals.  Two of the most concerning are dioxin (linked to cancer, birth defects, etc) & sodium polyacrylate (linked to TSS in tampons), but there are also many more.  Sposies have also been linked to asthma.  Not to mention rashes & chemical burns.

    2.  Cost.  It is SO much cheaper in the long run to use cloth diapers.  Even if it raises your water & energy bills a little it's still cheaper.

    3.  Environment.  Estimates indicate over 25 billion disposable diapers are consumed annually & these end up in landfills.  Gross.  Our babies have to live in this world for the rest of their lives.

    I am not sure if people chose disposable diapers due to lack of knowledge/information or due to laziness, but either way it's sad to me.  It really is not inconvenient at all to use cloth in my experience; it boils down to an extra load of laundry every 2-3 days.  But even if it was... my baby's health is worth it to me.

    I had no issue with your informative post until this sentence.  *eye roll*

    Agreed.  Inflammatory statements like this just negate the entire post, in my eyes.  

    This was the whole reason I said what I did. You imply bc we don't cloth diaper we don't care about our lo's health. It's just a low blow. We as mothers always feel like we are not doing our best and comparing ourselves to other moms. The last thing we need is someone else making us feel like we don't do a good enough job.

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  • imageBrandi Bee:
    There are lots of chemicals in lots of things...and I seriously doubt you avoid every single one of them.  That isn't my problem with your post however.  My problem is this: How the hell can disposable diapers be linked to BIRTH defects?!

    It is pretty obvious that she said a chemical found in disposables is linked to birth defects not that the diaper cause the baby to have a birth defect.

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  • Okay the last sentence can be seen as a bit snarky but I'm sure she meant it in the least snarkiest way. I agree with basicly the entire OP, I cloth diaper, I bartered and got used diapers from friends that were giving it up. I've spent $125 on diapers my son is almost 5 months old. My water bill has increased about $20 a quater but this also includes his clothes which is half since I do 1-2 loads of diapers and 1-2 loads of clothes a week, so that is $10 a quater or $40 a year and the soap was $10, I use 1/4 capful this bottle will last me a LONG time! so now we're up to $175 oh yeah electricity, maybe $10 since LO has been born so that's say $120 a year... so for just the first year of his life I will spend $295 on diapers... to me its worth it! There are ways to buy used and sales if you can't afford to buy top of the line brand new diapers.  My DH was not 100% on board but he loves them now and doesn't think they are a problem at all! He went from only using pockets (they look and work just like sposies) to useing the prefolds and covers and preferring them!

    We recently went on a road trip vacation, 8 days 3400 miles I CDed the entire time, just found hotels that had laundry rooms, I had to do laundry twice.

  • imageDreamsicle23:
    I live in an apartment with shared laundry that I have to go into another building for.  I'm lucky if I can do 1-2 loads a week.  Sometimes CD'ing is just not logistically possible.  Way to make people feel guilty :(
    I live in an apt building w/shared laundry (in the completely opposite end of the building on a completely different floor) and it's really not that big a deal if you're into it. It was like next to nothing upfront cost either - I bought gerber burp cloths, pins and rubber pants. You could CD for under $20 to start if you want. I'm not trying to be a martyr here, I'm just saying if it was something you wanted to do, it's more than doable. I go down pushing a stroller (or BWing) and dragging a folding shopping cart with my laundry and det in it. It's not a big deal at all, but also nothing to feel guilty about if you don't do it. To each their own.
  • I CD exclusively and I think it's weird when people flaunt the fact that they CD, like they need some trophy or a pat on the back or something.  The OP comes off kind of like that.
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  • I agree with the PP that said how much she spent on diapers. I actually began using disposables because I had read how many diapers a brand new baby goes through. I decided when things calmed down a bit I would c/d. I did the trial pkg from Jillians drawers and ended up  not liking any c/d's. I think it might have been because DD was sooooo small and weighed less than 12lbs. Around 2.5 months or 3 months I got another trial pkg with only pocket diapers and LOVED them. I buy a few diapers a months so that I don't have to shell out $300-400 for my stash. I have a total of 13 diapers and it is enough for me....the recommended amount is like 24 diapers. I do do one load of diapers a day. It's not that bad since I don't pay for utilities and I line dry them. I love it but just know that I also didn't have the money for the start up costs either. I had to do it bit by bit but here I am at 5 months (tomorrow) and I c/d full time. It is possible if you don't think you have the money initially.

    I know that a lot of people buy like 10-24 diapers at one time and actually that is the cheaper route but I only was able to buy a few diapers at a time (the most I bought was 6 of the same kind at one time) anyways so I definitely didn't go the cheaper route and buy in bulk. I've had to pay shipping quite a bit etc. But I have never seen a need to have 24 diapers. I always only wanted around 16-18 so I am buying them individually.

     

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    I'm not worried about LO's health at all.  I use disposables just to f*ck with him. 

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  • imageDreamsicle23:
    I live in an apartment with shared laundry that I have to go into another building for.  I'm lucky if I can do 1-2 loads a week.  Sometimes CD'ing is just not logistically possible.  Way to make people feel guilty :(

    This.

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