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carney09

yankeebaby2:

carney09:

yankeebaby2:

carney09:

For what its worth, I have read articles on young people doing this...instead of getting a job, they sit on a street corner and ask for money. 

They aren't doctors or lawyers seeking additional money.  They're lazy young adults who think this is easier than working a full time job.

Really?  They choose to live on the streets because they are young and lazy?  It doesn't have anything to do with maybe mental illness, drug or alcohol addiction, domestic violence or maybe they were war veterans? 

Lots of social and economic factors come into play but being young and lazy is not the predominant one for homelessness. 

 

Dude, you need to relax a bit.  I feel like you're on the attack and I don't like it.  Please read what I said.  I said I have read articles where young people are CHOOSING to panhandle, not live on the streets or be homeless.  There is a difference.  They are young and lazy and see it as a quick way to make money.  They PRETEND to be homeless, whereas in reality they are not.

I am not making this up.  If you have an issue with what I'm saying, sorry.  Its something I've read.

 

Carney, I am not on the attack unless you think question marks are agressive.

I have a hard time believing people panhandle and pretend to be homeless when they are not even though I have read it too.

I have said it before.  I would rather give money to someone who faked being homeless than risk not giving money to someone who really needed it.

And if he uses it to buy a MD 20/20, I don't care one bit. 

 

Also, if you read my original reply to this post, I said I would give them money too. 

yankeebaby2

carney09:

yankeebaby2:

carney09:

yankeebaby2:

carney09:

For what its worth, I have read articles on young people doing this...instead of getting a job, they sit on a street corner and ask for money. 

They aren't doctors or lawyers seeking additional money.  They're lazy young adults who think this is easier than working a full time job.

Really?  They choose to live on the streets because they are young and lazy?  It doesn't have anything to do with maybe mental illness, drug or alcohol addiction, domestic violence or maybe they were war veterans? 

Lots of social and economic factors come into play but being young and lazy is not the predominant one for homelessness. 

 

Dude, you need to relax a bit.  I feel like you're on the attack and I don't like it.  Please read what I said.  I said I have read articles where young people are CHOOSING to panhandle, not live on the streets or be homeless.  There is a difference.  They are young and lazy and see it as a quick way to make money.  They PRETEND to be homeless, whereas in reality they are not.

I am not making this up.  If you have an issue with what I'm saying, sorry.  Its something I've read.

 

Carney, I am not on the attck unless you think question marks are agressive.

I have a hard time believing people panhandle and pretend to be homeless when they are not even though I have read it too.

 

I'll take your word for it, but the way you phrased your questions sounded aggressive to me.  I was just posting what I've read, and you say you've read it too.  There's really no argument then is there?  Other than to say "yeah, I read that too, but I have a hard time believing it" 

My reply posted before I was ready.

Thanks for taking my word for it and the suggestions on how to answer.  Next time just PM me what I should write:)

lmpdjc

Mirage222:

yankeebaby2:

Mirage222, are you Jillygirl?

Please don't refer me to her, her posts get me upset most of the time. 

My post came across the wrong way and if you read further into this you will know what I am talking about. 

I have a heart for those who are homeless, it is the ones that have plenty of money and pretend to be homeless.  Those are the ones that make me mad! 

So, you think there are scads of people with plenty of money posing as homeless people?  Are you being dead serious right now?

epphd

Mirage222:

yankeebaby2:

Mirage222, are you Jillygirl?

Please don't refer me to her, her posts get me upset most of the time. 

My post came across the wrong way and if you read further into this you will know what I am talking about. 

I have a heart for those who are homeless, it is the ones that have plenty of money and pretend to be homeless.  Those are the ones that make me mad! 

Wouldn't you agree that even if there are people who pretend to be homeless, that they are vastly outnumbered by people who really don't have any where to go?  don't have a roof over their head, no shower, no toilet, no food, no nothing?  Wouldn't you rather err on the side of being charitable than err on the side of being a cold hearted ass?

This is not to say that every person should hand out cash to every homeless person out there - but the mean looks, the dismissive commentary, the outrageous assumptions... particularly in this economy we are all vulnerable.  And when I see a person in my neighborhood living out of his or her car, or sleeping on the sidewalk, all I can think is "there but by the grace..."  It could just as easily be me.

 

Mirage222

lmpdjc:

Mirage222:

yankeebaby2:

Mirage222, are you Jillygirl?

Please don't refer me to her, her posts get me upset most of the time. 

My post came across the wrong way and if you read further into this you will know what I am talking about. 

I have a heart for those who are homeless, it is the ones that have plenty of money and pretend to be homeless.  Those are the ones that make me mad! 

So, you think there are scads of people with plenty of money posing as homeless people?  Are you being dead serious right now?

Mirage222

Mirage222:

lmpdjc:

Mirage222:

yankeebaby2:

Mirage222, are you Jillygirl?

Please don't refer me to her, her posts get me upset most of the time. 

My post came across the wrong way and if you read further into this you will know what I am talking about. 

I have a heart for those who are homeless, it is the ones that have plenty of money and pretend to be homeless.  Those are the ones that make me mad! 

So, you think there are scads of people with plenty of money posing as homeless people?  Are you being dead serious right now?

There are SOME out there that do it, are you not reading what I am saying?  I saw a special on tv about it, I have heard it on the radio.  It happens!  Do you really believe that it doesn't happen?

yankeebaby2

lmpdjc:

"Hate on the Homeless" day.  See, Yankee, just give it a few hours and Voila!

Lol, tomorrow we start in on little people. 

carney09

yankeebaby2:

carney09:

yankeebaby2:

carney09:

yankeebaby2:

carney09:

For what its worth, I have read articles on young people doing this...instead of getting a job, they sit on a street corner and ask for money. 

They aren't doctors or lawyers seeking additional money.  They're lazy young adults who think this is easier than working a full time job.

Really?  They choose to live on the streets because they are young and lazy?  It doesn't have anything to do with maybe mental illness, drug or alcohol addiction, domestic violence or maybe they were war veterans? 

Lots of social and economic factors come into play but being young and lazy is not the predominant one for homelessness. 

 

Dude, you need to relax a bit.  I feel like you're on the attack and I don't like it.  Please read what I said.  I said I have read articles where young people are CHOOSING to panhandle, not live on the streets or be homeless.  There is a difference.  They are young and lazy and see it as a quick way to make money.  They PRETEND to be homeless, whereas in reality they are not.

I am not making this up.  If you have an issue with what I'm saying, sorry.  Its something I've read.

 

Carney, I am not on the attck unless you think question marks are agressive.

I have a hard time believing people panhandle and pretend to be homeless when they are not even though I have read it too.

 

I'll take your word for it, but the way you phrased your questions sounded aggressive to me.  I was just posting what I've read, and you say you've read it too.  There's really no argument then is there?  Other than to say "yeah, I read that too, but I have a hard time believing it" 

My reply posted before I was ready.

Thanks for taking my word for it and the suggestions on how to answer.  Next time just PM me what I should write:)

Ay yi yi, you can be relentless Yankeebaby.  Is it because you know I'm a diehard Sox fan???  lol. 

lmpdjc

Mirage222:

Mirage222:

lmpdjc:

Mirage222:

yankeebaby2:

Mirage222, are you Jillygirl?

Please don't refer me to her, her posts get me upset most of the time. 

My post came across the wrong way and if you read further into this you will know what I am talking about. 

I have a heart for those who are homeless, it is the ones that have plenty of money and pretend to be homeless.  Those are the ones that make me mad! 

So, you think there are scads of people with plenty of money posing as homeless people?  Are you being dead serious right now?

There are SOME out there that do it, are you not reading what I am saying?  I saw a special on tv about it, I have heard it on the radio.  It happens!  Do you really believe that it doesn't happen?

Oh, I believe it happens, but not on the scale you seem to believe.  I highly doubt that even with your plan to hand out Mickey D's job app's to all of the homeless in your area, you'd ever even come across one "faker".

yankeebaby2

carney09:

yankeebaby2:

carney09:

yankeebaby2:

carney09:

yankeebaby2:

carney09:

For what its worth, I have read articles on young people doing this...instead of getting a job, they sit on a street corner and ask for money. 

They aren't doctors or lawyers seeking additional money.  They're lazy young adults who think this is easier than working a full time job.

Really?  They choose to live on the streets because they are young and lazy?  It doesn't have anything to do with maybe mental illness, drug or alcohol addiction, domestic violence or maybe they were war veterans? 

Lots of social and economic factors come into play but being young and lazy is not the predominant one for homelessness. 

 

Dude, you need to relax a bit.  I feel like you're on the attack and I don't like it.  Please read what I said.  I said I have read articles where young people are CHOOSING to panhandle, not live on the streets or be homeless.  There is a difference.  They are young and lazy and see it as a quick way to make money.  They PRETEND to be homeless, whereas in reality they are not.

I am not making this up.  If you have an issue with what I'm saying, sorry.  Its something I've read.

 

Carney, I am not on the attck unless you think question marks are agressive.

I have a hard time believing people panhandle and pretend to be homeless when they are not even though I have read it too.

 

I'll take your word for it, but the way you phrased your questions sounded aggressive to me.  I was just posting what I've read, and you say you've read it too.  There's really no argument then is there?  Other than to say "yeah, I read that too, but I have a hard time believing it" 

My reply posted before I was ready.

Thanks for taking my word for it and the suggestions on how to answer.  Next time just PM me what I should write:)

Ay yi yi, you can be relentless Yankeebaby.  Is it because you know I'm a diehard Sox fan???  lol. 

Yes, but I should take it easy on you guys since you are 7 games out;)

 

 

VanderLaan

I do all the time.  And I dont care what they use it for.  We give a lot to charity too.  Makes me feel good!

carney09

yankeebaby2:

carney09:

yankeebaby2:

carney09:

yankeebaby2:

carney09:

yankeebaby2:

carney09:

For what its worth, I have read articles on young people doing this...instead of getting a job, they sit on a street corner and ask for money. 

They aren't doctors or lawyers seeking additional money.  They're lazy young adults who think this is easier than working a full time job.

Really?  They choose to live on the streets because they are young and lazy?  It doesn't have anything to do with maybe mental illness, drug or alcohol addiction, domestic violence or maybe they were war veterans? 

Lots of social and economic factors come into play but being young and lazy is not the predominant one for homelessness. 

 

Dude, you need to relax a bit.  I feel like you're on the attack and I don't like it.  Please read what I said.  I said I have read articles where young people are CHOOSING to panhandle, not live on the streets or be homeless.  There is a difference.  They are young and lazy and see it as a quick way to make money.  They PRETEND to be homeless, whereas in reality they are not.

I am not making this up.  If you have an issue with what I'm saying, sorry.  Its something I've read.

 

Carney, I am not on the attck unless you think question marks are agressive.

I have a hard time believing people panhandle and pretend to be homeless when they are not even though I have read it too.

 

I'll take your word for it, but the way you phrased your questions sounded aggressive to me.  I was just posting what I've read, and you say you've read it too.  There's really no argument then is there?  Other than to say "yeah, I read that too, but I have a hard time believing it" 

My reply posted before I was ready.

Thanks for taking my word for it and the suggestions on how to answer.  Next time just PM me what I should write:)

Ay yi yi, you can be relentless Yankeebaby.  Is it because you know I'm a diehard Sox fan???  lol. 

Yes, but I should take it easy on you guys since you are 7 games out;)

 

 

Ugh, its so disappointing.  I'm already considering the season over.  lol!

greengirl0909

I used to give money to the guys in my area on a regular basis. Then one evening one of them jumped through the window in my car across my lap. I was scared beyond belief, I didn't know what to do and I couldn't really see to drive. I'm not sure what he hoped to accomplish, he was flailing all about and reaching like towards the keys. Eventually, I pressed the accelerator and we moved forward and he jumped out. I know not all of them would behave like this, but it left me pretty scared. I know there are lots of reasons why people end up in bad positions, but I do seem some situations firsthand where a lot of help is being offered to people and they still choose not to accept it. My husband works with men in our area who are on probation. Once they are deemed mentally sound and they have no drug or alcohol addictions, he'll work on getting them a place in the men's shelter and helping them find work. At least once a week we get a phone call from the shelter saying one of his clients has violated a rule and is being removed from the shelter. Other times, the men themselves call and say they broke curfew and aren't allowed back in and they want to know what they should do. The rules at the shelter are simple, you keep your belongings in the assigned area, don't utilize drugs/alcohol, don't enter the kitchen or other restricted areas without permission, don't fight with anyone and don't break curfew. Most often, curfew is the one that gets people kicked out. It is hard to see help being offered and men choosing not to take it.

M&M*love

I have given them food. A friend and I were down town on the college strip and a homeless man asked for money. I told him that I didn't have any extra cash but if that we were just going to get a sandwich and that I would get him one. When we gave him that sandwich he had a look that I have never seen in a persons eyes, I cannot even describe it but it broke my heart.

On the radio I heard that depending on the city and the traffic volume some of pan handlers can make 100K a year.

Mirage222

I used to work for a non-profit organization who helped the homeless, so that is why I am angry towards the ones who do fake it...If they want to have more money, rather than pretending to be homeless, they can go get a 2nd job, get it?....this is what my post is all about people! 

mrsbecky07

epphd:

The more I read drivel like this (panhandling for extra dollars!  Just get a job already!  No tax dollars for fritos!) the more I think it is just a mindset that lets people off the hook.  If the homeless haters took the time to understand the problems that underlie homelessness, and the welfare haters took the time to understand the cycle of poverty, they would be compelled to be a bit more charitable both in mindset and in action.  It's much easier to make rash, off base assumptions so you can continue to dismiss actual problems whilst simultaneously whinging the petty, irrelevant topics that take up much more of your time and energy.

mrsbecky07

epphd:

The more I read drivel like this (panhandling for extra dollars!  Just get a job already!  No tax dollars for fritos!) the more I think it is just a mindset that lets people off the hook.  If the homeless haters took the time to understand the problems that underlie homelessness, and the welfare haters took the time to understand the cycle of poverty, they would be compelled to be a bit more charitable both in mindset and in action.  It's much easier to make rash, off base assumptions so you can continue to dismiss actual problems whilst simultaneously whinging the petty, irrelevant topics that take up much more of your time and energy.

Timeg

We don't have many beggars here - all of our homeless people are very blatant about their addictions (as in, they don't generally beg for money, but tehy do walk around drunk all the time. It's hard to explain).

That being said, I grew up with a father who always gave money to the homeless and I myself have on occassion.

When he would give money, he woudl say to them, "take this money, go over to (insert food place) and get yourself something to eat. I'm trusting you to not use this for alcohol or drugs."

He did this countless times in my childhood for people who were complete stranger and for people we knew. He's given away money, food, cars, etc.  He taught me that we cannot judge where a person is at or why they are doing what they do. We just have to trust and let them be accountable for what they do with things...I really respect my dad's perspective!

bobbyme

amynjay:

IrishBrideND:

I do.

 

I honeslty don't care if they chose to use it to buy alcohol. If I was homeless, I'd probably want a drink, too.

This.

I'm doing the right thing, it's none of my business if they are or not.

I agree. I have given to homeless people before, and along the lines of amy, gifts shouldn't have strings attached.

ecu1995

So here in my town, it is illegal to panhandle (beg for money) unless you go downtown and pay $10 for a license, yes, a license to beg.  Then they issue you a bright orange vest and you can beg all you want on street corners. 

If you can go downtown and shell out $10 each year for a license, you do not need my money.

Now, I was in San Fran for a conference last year and there was a woman and her about 3yr old child on the corner dirty and the kid was crying...it broke my hear and I gave her $20.  My co-worker told me it was probably all a scam, that the mom probably did this on a daily basis...but I was so broken hearted by that poor baby....

hydies33

MWoodside:

I do.  I just think that if someone is sitting quietly on the street begging for money than they need my $1 (or however much) more than I do.  I have also offered to buy them a meal nearby once in a while.

Do you really think McDonald's (or anywhere else) is going to hire a homeless person who doesn't have a place to clean up before work & hasn't had a job in many years?  I don't.  Also, a large portion of the homeless population is mentally ill.

What is with these posts lately lacking any compassion for others?????

THIS! 

IrishBrideND

ecu1995:

 

If you can go downtown and shell out $10 each year for a license, you do not need my money.

 

if someone has $10, they aren't poor? Good to know.

 

I love that people are being penalized for doing it the "right" and legal way.

purplecrayon

I have never given them money.  When I lived in the city I did give one of the local dumpster divers a coat we didn't use anymore with a couple beers in the pockets.

purplecrayon

How else would Homer have been able to get Marge a nice anniversary gift?

lildevil968

I usually buy the same homelss man a subway sandwich whenever I go there for lunch, and another homeless man a pita when I go to the pita shop. My family and I also do alot of volunteering at the local homeless shelter during the holidays, and we just started a new thing a few years ago where we find some random homeless person on Christmas Eve, and give them $20. I don't care what they spend it on. We do this because DH and I both came from nothing, so now that we are able to help other people in the same situation, we want to help, and teach our children at the sametime to have love and respect for other people.

ecu1995

IrishBrideND:

ecu1995:

 

If you can go downtown and shell out $10 each year for a license, you do not need my money.

 

if someone has $10, they aren't poor? Good to know.

 

I love that people are being penalized for doing it the "right" and legal way.

If they have the initiative and ability to get a license, they have the initiative and ability to get a J.O.B.  

yourmomwreckedmybike

i dont give them money if they are just sitting there. There are plenty of things you can do to earn money. 

in the city i used to live in, i would offer to by them a coffee or my lunch instead when they asked for change, 99% of the time their response "no thanks, i eat pretty good" 

ill give money to someone busking or even attempting to do something, i'll left my bottles and cans for the homeless guy who "patrolled" our block. 

i chose what organizations and causes i donate to, so i see no issue with choosing which homeless/needy people i give to.  

epphd

ecu1995:

IrishBrideND:

ecu1995:

 

If you can go downtown and shell out $10 each year for a license, you do not need my money.

 

if someone has $10, they aren't poor? Good to know.

 

I love that people are being penalized for doing it the "right" and legal way.

If they have the initiative and ability to get a license, they have the initiative and ability to get a J.O.B.  

Brilliant. Because you know, the labor market is so great right now - they are just handing out jobs left, right and center.  Could you please read back further in the thread and answer the question of "how will a homeless person secure employment with McDonald's?"  Because if it is so easy it surprises me that no one has managed to come up with those answers.  Jesus - some of the people on this board are seriously uncharitable ass!holes.  But I'm sure you go to church and think you are just as kind and Christian as you can be.

yankeebaby2

epphd:

ecu1995:

IrishBrideND:

ecu1995:

 

If you can go downtown and shell out $10 each year for a license, you do not need my money.

 

if someone has $10, they aren't poor? Good to know.

 

I love that people are being penalized for doing it the "right" and legal way.

If they have the initiative and ability to get a license, they have the initiative and ability to get a J.O.B.  

Brilliant. Because you know, the labor market is so great right now - they are just handing out jobs left, right and center.  Could you please read back further in the thread and answer the question of "how will a homeless person secure employment with McDonald's?"  Because if it is so easy it surprises me that no one has managed to come up with those answers.  Jesus - some of the people on this board are seriously uncharitable ass!holes.  But I'm sure you go to church and think you are just as kind and Christian as you can be.

Did you read the thread yesterday when a poster said that those that get welfare are the scum of the earth and sucking up you tax dollars?

I don;'t think a lot of people on this board understand how their taxes pay into social programs.