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Pre-K

My son's birthday is in October so he miss the cutoff for school year.

He's currently in a private school Pre-school program with daycare. He will be going there for Pre-k and Kindergaten. The Director of our daycare suggested that William's aptitude is at par with all the 3 year kids at his room and she has no concern with him moving to pre-school ahead. Since they are not private, they can do this. All up to us.

Anybody been in this situation? What did y'all do? Pros? Cons? TIA

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  • Do you mean that as a 3-yr-old, he'd be moving to a class with 4s? I think as long as you think he's ready emotionally, go for it. Audrey is in Montessori so her class is 3-6 year olds. She has an opportunity to teach the younger ones and learn from the older ones.
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  • I think you have to look at a few factors. He may be "educationally" ready, but is he emotionally, socially and physically ready to be with the older kids?

    We are dealing with this right now with Grant. His birthday is Aug 8th, so right before the cutoff. We have decided to hold him back. I have talked to teacher's, friends and my Pedi about this, and have heard from the teacher's that they can always tell the kids (especially boys) that have the late birthdays, and my Pedi told me just yesterday that he's never heard anyone complain or regret their decision to hold back...but has had plenty of people regret sending them early.

    Really you have to look at your situation and William and see what's best for him.

    Grant Thomas 8.8.06 and Reid Alexander 8.11.08
  • My honest opinion is to not move him ahead.  You need to think long term.  While academically he may be great, socially it could be very awkward for him down the road especially since boys mature slower than girls.  Smart kids get bored not because what they are learning they could have handled earlier but by the speed at which they are learning.  My son MAKES the cut off by a week and there is a high probablility that we will hold him back (even though all of his teachers tell us how smart he is).  Since he is only 2 I can't say for sure but all the educators I have spoken to recommend it.
  • After teaching for 8 years...most of the time I could spot the kids with late birthdays who squeaked by the deadline date (both boys and girls) They were still a little more immature than their peers. Now...when it came to their education, most of them were just fine. They just had a hard time when it came to structured time and following instructions. I also think that boys who start early and have late birthdays are at a disadvantage when it comes to sports. I know that sounds very shallow....

    You know your little one best and I am sure you will make the right decision for him and your family. :)

  • We will be dealing with this with Abigail since her birthday is right after the cut off, but we will likely hold her back a year. DH was always the oldest in his class (Nov 7 birthday) and it didn't bother him one bit. It really helped later on his education.
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  • We have this issue.  I'm actually surprised they recommended you moving him ahead.  We go to private preschool with a pre-K and I asked up front about moving Colin up b/c he's only 5 days after the cutoff.  They said they don't allow and only a few private schools will allow it.  We'd then have to keep him in private school until 2nd grade so you might consider that if you're thinking of public schools. 

    Anyway, all that said, everything I've read and all the teachers, parents, etc. say not to push ahead, esp. for boys.  It seems most kids with birthdays July on 'hold back' and those with September on stay in the grade they should.  Hayden is the opposite, his birthday is today actually and so he's  a few weeks before the cutoff.  We'll hold him back so he won't be the youngest.

  • I'm totally surprised by this thread.  Finn is 7/11 and so makes the cut-off and we were just planning on sending him to pre-k next year.  a few people had asked if I was going to hold him back but I honestly didn't get it or why....but now I wonder if we should?  I really don't feel like we need to but I don't want him to be retarded because we didn't.  son of a....
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  • Heather you crack me up! I am sure Finn will be fine! You know what is best for him! I also think that kids who are exposed to a school setting early on...like 2 or 3 mornings a week will make a big difference when it comes to pre-k and K. I have a good friend whose little boy's b-day is mid-July...she sent him to pre-k.....after the year she realized he really was not ready for K....so she kept him in pre-K again. no big deal. All kids are different. :)
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    I'm totally surprised by this thread.  Finn is 7/11 and so makes the cut-off and we were just planning on sending him to pre-k next year.  a few people had asked if I was going to hold him back but I honestly didn't get it or why....but now I wonder if we should?  I really don't feel like we need to but I don't want him to be retarded because we didn't.  son of a....

    DH's bday is 7/20 and my sister's is 8/25. Both of them started with their classes and both did fine! They were the youngest, but they'll tell you it never really mattered.

    I, however, always resented that I was the oldest in my class and probably would've been fine in the grade higher if it weren't for my Oct. bday. 

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  • DS's birthday is Sept.26 and we plan to hold him back so that he'll be one of the oldest in his class. It was only after reading Outliers that I was okay with this. Apparently being the oldest in the class prepares you better for success later in life! Also, he's already a peanut so I can only imagine how difficult it will be for him to not only be the youngest but also the tiniest if we were to push him ahead.
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  • FYIW, Connor's birthday is August 8th (just turned 3), and we're already planning to hold him back next year. He's physically on the smaller side so I think that will help. I also think the extra year will help him develop emotionally. Plus, the majority of kids in his daycare class have birthdays after the cutoff, so more will be staying. We've talked to a ton of people about this - his teachers, other educators and parents facing a similar situation. I'd say 90% of them told us to hold him back. We're planning to keep him in his daycare for pre-k, then to public kindergarten. That said, that's what works for us ... every family and every child is different!

    Julie

  • wait, so Finn would turn 4 in July and start PRE-K with kids who turned 5 in August???  Doesn't that seem weird?
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    wait, so Finn would turn 4 in July and start PRE-K with kids who turned 5 in August???  Doesn't that seem weird?

    Yes, its possible

    I don't know how other schools do it, but Grant's school separate the Pre-K classes into birthdays (early birthday, mid year and late) and treat the classes accordingly (the class for the early birthday kids--the ones who turn or already 5 when school starts--is run just like a Kindergarten class, and the one for the later birthday's moves at a little slower pace. That works for us since we are holding Grant back a year he will start in the late birthday class, then move to the early birthday class when he's 5 and start Kinder. when he's 6.

    Grant Thomas 8.8.06 and Reid Alexander 8.11.08
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    wait, so Finn would turn 4 in July and start PRE-K with kids who turned 5 in August???  Doesn't that seem weird?

    Yep, and it does seem weird when they are this young! There is a big difference in maturity between 4 and 5 yr olds.

    Donna, we have the same situation with Kate being Oct 3rd bday. For the longest she was the youngest in her class because she was always emotionally and educationally good with the older kids, but now she's moving up with the Pre-K school year kids, so she is one of the oldest in her classes.

    I've talked to alot of people about this now and from everything I've heard, I think it will be to her and William's advantage to be the oldest ones!

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  • OK now I'm a little annoyed that there will be kids who will be a whole year older than him in his class because their parents want them to be "smarter" than everyone else.
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  • although I guess I'm not worried about Finn...Riley on the other hand....hahahaha
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  • We aren't holding Grant back because we want him to be "smarter" than everyone else, we are doing it to give him the best chance for him to be successful. At that age there is a huge difference in 4 and 5 year old's when it comes to some listening skills, attention span and general social skills..not to mention that Grant is a smaller boy. We, and most teacher's I have talked to think that he will do better if we wait instead of sending him so young.
    Grant Thomas 8.8.06 and Reid Alexander 8.11.08
  • Donna, I would go with your gut on this.  I personally think children thrive when they are challenged.  I wouldn't want my child to be bored in a classroom. But at the same time, you don't want to push him too far if he's not ready emotionally--just need to find the balance.

    My nephew is beyond bored in his first grade class.  His birthday is in Oct--he should really be in 2nd grade.  He also has an older sibling and is very tall for his age (he looks 2 yrs older)

    Both DH and I were always the youngest in our classrooms. His birthday is late Oct and I'm early Nov.  I turned out better than DH grades-wise :)  but I think that can be attributed to the quality of my education versus his.

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    OK, the part about this thread I am not understanding is the part with kids who DO make the cutoff. Why on earth would anyone put them in the class AFTER theirs (unless there was a real academic need for it)? I am an Aug. 22 birthday. (Happy birthday to me, by the way, next weekend--LOL!) Anyway, I was one of the younger ones in my class and did just fine, I think. I would not have liked being in a grade lower than my peers. Back when I was in school (which was a long time ago, I know), the cutoff was Oct. 31. Yes, there was a guy in my class who had a Halloween birthday. He was the youngest. I NEVER would think of holding Kate back another year--her birthday is July 8. I am really confused by this.

    My niece has a Sept. 21 birthday. She was not held back. I can't remember what the cutoff is (end of Sept???). She is very bright, so no issues there (or with maturity), but she is the smallest. I honestly don't think there are any other issues other than her size. So I guess she won't be the playground bully. LOL! Not her personality, anyway.

     

    ETA: OK, I hadn't read all of the responses, and I totally get that it is a family decision and you make the decision that's best for your child. But there is part of me that says a cutoff is a cutoff. So go with the group you should be in. KWIM?

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  • This actually happened to me.  The cut off was 9/1 for kindergarten and my birthday is 9/26.  My mom put me in a private school for kindergarten and 1st grade so I could start early.  Now that I look back on it and I did have some awkward years around middle school where I was so immature compared to other kids.  I started 7th grade when I was 11 years old!  And I started college when I was 17.  I think if I had to make the choice I would choose not to start early.
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    This actually happened to me.  The cut off was 9/1 for kindergarten and my birthday is 9/26.  My mom put me in a private school for kindergarten and 1st grade so I could start early.  Now that I look back on it and I did have some awkward years around middle school where I was so immature compared to other kids.  I started 7th grade when I was 11 years old!  And I started college when I was 17.  I think if I had to make the choice I would choose not to start early.

    I have birthday late sept also and my parents started me early as well.  Totally agree......I had self esteem issues, I was smart enough academically though but I was immature.   SC had a birthday in Nov and we are going to Prek NEXT year, so she will be the oldest...which is fine by me!

     

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